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Jewish voters back Biden over Trump

Poll shows approval for incumbent’s performance

Marc Ramirez

USA TODAY

Jewish voters strongly support President Joe Biden’s handling of the Israel-Hamas conflict and would trust him over former President Donald Trump to fight growing antisemitism, a national poll has found.

Results released this week by the nonpartisan Jewish Electorate Institute also showed Biden with a considerably higher job approval rating among Jewish voters than among the general U.S. population.

While the results weren’t necessarily surprising given that most Jewish voters lean Democratic, 'it is reaffirming of the fact that Jews know and trust that Joe Biden stands with us and stands with Israel,' said Halie Soifer, CEO of the Jewish Democratic Council of America.

About three-fourths (74%) of Jewish voters approve of Biden’s handling of the ongoing conflict, according to the poll of 800 Jewish voters conducted from Nov. 5 to Nov. 9. Meanwhile, more than two-thirds (68%) said they would support Biden over Trump, the presumptive Republican candidate – slightly less than the portion (74%) who said they voted for Biden in 2020.

About two-thirds (66%) of Jewish voters said they approved of Biden’s performance as president, while a recent USA TODAY/Suffolk University survey showed Biden’s overall job approval at just 40%.

'There continues to be extraordinary support for Biden,' said Jim Gerstein of GBAO Strategies, the Washington, D.C.-based firm that conducted the poll. 'That doesn’t happen in a vacuum: Donald Trump, the likely Republican candidate for president, is extraordinarily unpopular with Jewish voters. I would actually expect that to grow as the election gets closer.'

Support for Biden’s approach to conflict

The poll, which measured attitudes among the Jewish American electorate about Israel, antisemitism and the 2024 election, found support for Trump at just 22% of Jewish voters, an 8-point decline compared with a pre-2020 election poll.

Sam Markstein, national political director for the Republican Jewish Coalition, said the group was 'confident' that the results would not be predictive of November 2024 numbers. Trump, he noted, took 24% of the Jewish vote in 2016 and more than 30% in 2020.

'The trendlines are clear: Jewish voters are moving away from the Democratic Party and toward the Republican Party,' Markstein said.

Biden’s strongest poll support came from the population’s largest voting blocs – reform Jews and those not aligned with any particular denomination. Orthodox Jews were the only group not supporting Biden, with just 22% in favor.

Orthodox Jews were nonetheless among the most likely to approve Biden’s handling of the Israel-Hamas conflict.

And while young voters were less likely than older generations to approve, they nonetheless support Biden over Trump by an overwhelming margin.

More than 80% of Jewish voters said they approved of specific actions Biden has taken to support Israel in its war with Hamas, including visiting the country and meeting with Israeli leaders, dispatching aircraft carriers to the East Mediterranean Sea to deter would-be aggressors, and having senior American officials attend Israeli war Cabinet meetings to discuss strategy and offer counsel.

Meanwhile, 80% said they supported Biden’s $14.5 billion request to Congress for military aid to Israel, while 68% approved of U.S. calls for a humanitarian pause to enable safe delivery of food, water and medicine to Gaza.

'That level of support supersedes party lines,' Soifer said. 'Jewish voters understand these issues and are following them closely.'

‘Consumed with what’s going on’

The poll results bear that out. Nearly all (97%) of respondents said they were closely following news coverage of the conflict; 75% said they were following very closely.

'Jewish Americans are consumed with what’s going on,' Gerstein said. 'This speaks to the horror of Oct. 7 and how it has drawn them in – plus we have an ongoing hostage situation.'

Additionally, the poll found that Jewish voters are more emotionally attached to Israel than in an institute poll taken earlier this year. Four in five (82%) said they felt at least somewhat attached to Israel.

While that number was somewhat consistent, the level of intensity climbed, Gerstein said. In June, just 33% of respondents considered themselves very emotionally attached to Israel; in the latest poll, that figure had jumped to 51%.

Those stronger bonds with Israel, however, did not translate into favorable views of Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu. More than six in 10 (61%) said they viewed Netanyahu unfavorably, compared to 31% who viewed him positively.

'He has not gotten a bump at all despite the crisis,' Gerstein said.

Respondents were also asked about the notion of being 'pro-Israel' and what that entailed. Could a person be critical of Israeli government policies and still be considered pro-Israel? More than nine in 10 (91%) said yes.

About three-fourths (76%) said being pro-Israel could include criticizing Israel’s handling of the conflict with Hamas. However, agreement varied widely among groups, with those aged 18 to 35 largely agreeing and Orthodox Jews strongly in opposition.

'They’re (Orthodox Jews) fine being critical of Israeli government policy, but they’re not fine with being critical with Israel’s conduct of the war,' Gerstein said.

Concerns intensify over antisemitism

As reports of antisemitism in the U.S., including attacks from the far left, have surged along with Islamophobia since the war’s inception, worries over both have grown.

More than nine in 10 Jewish voters (93%) said they were at least 'somewhat concerned' about antisemitism in the U.S., and while that share has remained consistent since April 2022, Gerstein said.


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Jewish voters back Biden over Trump

Poll shows approval for incumbent’s performance

Marc Ramirez

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Jewish voters strongly support President Joe Biden’s handling of the Israel-Hamas conflict and would trust him over former President Donald Trump to fight growing antisemitism, a national poll has found.



About three-fourths (74%) of Jewish voters approve of Biden’s handling of the ongoing conflict, according to the poll of 800 Jewish voters conducted from Nov. 5 to Nov. 9. Meanwhile, more than two-thirds (68%) said they would support Biden over Trump, the presumptive Republican candidate – slightly less than the portion (74%) who said they voted for Biden in 2020.

About two-thirds (66%) of Jewish voters said they approved of Biden’s performance as president, while a recent USA TODAY/Suffolk University survey showed Biden’s overall job approval at just 40%.




I'm going to call bullshit on this.

"Who" and "Where" did they actually survey?
I see a lot of American Jews leaning more right at this time. But this article being from USA Today, I'm not surprised by their results. "Figures lie and liars figure".


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I approve of Bidens job on Isreal/Hamas conflict. I am incredibly surprised both that I'm typing these words and that Biden and most of his administration is standing firm in their support for Isreal.



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I approve of Bidens job on Isreal/Hamas conflict. I am incredibly surprised both that I'm typing these words and that Biden and most of his administration is standing firm in their support for Isreal.


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Biden's support for Israel is equivocal. That's pretty obvious, at least to me.


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Biden's support for Israel is equivocal. That's pretty obvious, at least to me.
His initial stance "seemed" pro-Israel, but it was only a day or two later he started waffling with the "pause" BS.


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Biden's support for Israel is equivocal. That's pretty obvious, at least to me.


Considering that this is his only policy I have agreed with him on, understand I am grading him on a curve. So considering all of his F's, his B is really a D brought up by the curve. You have to remember he's committing political suicide among the far left and Hamas constituency of his party. His support for Isreal is the final nail in his reelection hopes.

I would not grade politician X as favorably as I am Biden, just compared to how bad his policy has been. I figured his support would have waned way faster than it has.



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Droolin Joe is nothing more than a sock puppet, with the IQ to match. I'm a firm believer that obama has his hand stuffed up Joes ass.


This is 100% accurate IMO

Nothing that Biden does seems to be of the Biden of old

Everything he has done for 3+ years now has Obama's fingerprints all over it


 
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Biden's support for Israel is equivocal. That's pretty obvious, at least to me.

Yep, he's also pro-Palestine (which doesn't exist).
It's purely political. The American Jews are all Democrats, but so are all of these campus radical Hamas supporters.
So...



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Ha!

Shooting at us from the window of a building?
Fine, we'll "delete" the building. Razz


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The Biden admin is playing Israel.

And before anyone comes back with "some people are never happy", don't.

What Israel does for America in terms of intelligence sharing, information and innovation of technology both military and non-military, tactics, protocol and procedure and being a very powerful presence and forward position in a strategic location, as well as a valuable customer of military purchase.

It's not like some ex-wife and never ending, wallet draining alimony.

Although that is the trope which is inferred.




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Some screen captures from the video para posted above








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Yeah that first round was a hint to "re-position" but HamAss idiots were too stupid to do that. I hope they enjoyed the brief roller coaster ride as the building came down.
 
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Yeah that first round was a hint to "re-position" but HamAss idiots were too stupid to do that. I hope they enjoyed the brief roller coaster ride as the building came down.


Not sure if they could "re-position" fast enough. Looks to me like they needed to fire A shot and GTFO. I like the IDF tactics, no fucking around.
 
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Jewish voters back Biden over Trump

Poll shows approval for incumbent’s performance

Marc Ramirez

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Jewish voters strongly support President Joe Biden’s handling of the Israel-Hamas conflict and would trust him over former President Donald Trump to fight growing antisemitism, a national poll has found.



About three-fourths (74%) of Jewish voters approve of Biden’s handling of the ongoing conflict, according to the poll of 800 Jewish voters conducted from Nov. 5 to Nov. 9. Meanwhile, more than two-thirds (68%) said they would support Biden over Trump, the presumptive Republican candidate – slightly less than the portion (74%) who said they voted for Biden in 2020.

About two-thirds (66%) of Jewish voters said they approved of Biden’s performance as president, while a recent USA TODAY/Suffolk University survey showed Biden’s overall job approval at just 40%.




I'm going to call bullshit on this.

"Who" and "Where" did they actually survey?
I see a lot of American Jews leaning more right at this time. But this article being from USA Today, I'm not surprised by their results. "Figures lie and liars figure".


Suffolk University is in Boston, poll was probably conducted in Brookline, Newton, Sharon, Wayland and Wellesley. Very high Jewish population and as Blue as Massachusetts can be. The hate for President Trump in the these communities of tolerance is astounding, they'd support Idi Amin over President Trump.
 
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Jewish voters back Biden over Trump

Poll shows approval for incumbent’s performance

Marc Ramirez

USA TODAY

Jewish voters strongly support President Joe Biden’s handling of the Israel-Hamas conflict and would trust him over former President Donald Trump to fight growing antisemitism, a national poll has found.



About three-fourths (74%) of Jewish voters approve of Biden’s handling of the ongoing conflict, according to the poll of 800 Jewish voters conducted from Nov. 5 to Nov. 9. Meanwhile, more than two-thirds (68%) said they would support Biden over Trump, the presumptive Republican candidate – slightly less than the portion (74%) who said they voted for Biden in 2020.

About two-thirds (66%) of Jewish voters said they approved of Biden’s performance as president, while a recent USA TODAY/Suffolk University survey showed Biden’s overall job approval at just 40%.




I'm going to call bullshit on this.

"Who" and "Where" did they actually survey?
I see a lot of American Jews leaning more right at this time. But this article being from USA Today, I'm not surprised by their results. "Figures lie and liars figure".


Suffolk University is in Boston, poll was probably conducted in Brookline, Newton, Sharon, Wayland and Wellesley. Very high Jewish population and as Blue as Massachusetts can be. The hate for President Trump in the these communities of tolerance is astounding, they'd support Idi Amin over President Trump.


Of course, it's likely bullshit. But if they repeat a lie often enough...
This is the mainstream media carrying the water exactly as they are instructed.


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If you think the preezy actually supports Israel, the 1st thing you need to realize is that no matter what he says, he doesn't support Israel. At the very least, he's just been too damn busy trying to help Iran.

One of his first actions when he came into office was to attempt to reenter the JCPOA. As a result, sanctions waivers were issued that allowed Iran to sell billions of dollars worth of oil, since the Ukraine war kicked off that oil was almost exclusively sold to China. That $6BN deal a few months back is a red herring, is a drop in the bucket, compared to what Iran has been pulling in in oil sales over the last several years.

Anything that helps fund Iran actually funds Hamas, Hezbollah, and the Houthi's, which I can assure you DOES NOT help Israel. Speaking of the Houthi, did you know the Trump admin designated them a terror organization in Jan 2021 just before leaving office? Just over a month later, the Biden admin lifted that designation against Ansarallah, aka, the Houthi...

Joe Biden(Obama 2.0) supported/s all things Iran, which is the exact opposite of supporting Israel.


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Wow,
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is admitting that Israel was right all along: Hamas' terror tunnels are under Shifa hospital, and the hospital was used for keeping hostages.

Even BBC can no longer lie in the face of evidence!
https://twitter.com/DrEliDavid.../1726876663051665447



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Wait til we rollout our space lasers. Wink


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