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Originally posted by sse:
if you hold the purse strings you can talk a lot of trash

Go one step further: if you control the vote (the voting machines and outcomes), you control the purse strings and you can request ISR to sacrifice their liberties and safeties for the terrorists interests in order to launder ill gotten gains.

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Originally posted by Rightwire:

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Originally posted by PASig:
Get a load of this bullshit.

The WH is upset the IDF assaulted the phony Hamas hospital and they didn’t give them “permission” to do that!

The balls on this administration I swear.


Israel says it HAS found weapons 'and other things' beneath Al-Shifa after US says it 'did not give the OK' for hospital raid: World now waits to see evidence of what IDF discovered - as Hamas dismisses 'lies and propaganda

What the hell, does Biden think Israel is like Kansas? They don't need any ones permission to defend themselves.

If course Hamas is going to deny it. They have no moral code that says they must be honest to infidels.

Just more signs of the devil at work in this world. Hamas is to be praised and Israel is to sit back and just take it. Unreal.

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Originally posted by PASig:

Get a load of this bullshit.

The WH is upset the IDF assaulted the phony Hamas hospital and they didn’t give them “permission” to do that!

The balls on this administration I swear.

Israel says it HAS found weapons 'and other things' beneath Al-Shifa after US says it 'did not give the OK' for hospital raid: World now waits to see evidence of what IDF discovered - as Hamas dismisses 'lies and propaganda

I despise Biden and his administration as much as anybody else, maybe more. But I think that you are taking this particular quote out of context. In the linked article, it is reported that Hamas said President Joe Biden was 'wholly responsible' for the raid on al-Shifa. John Kirby's response to this said "We did not give an OK to their military operations around the hospital."

So essentially, that was a poorly worded denial to the Hamas claim that the raid on the hospital was done by Biden's authorization.

Video at link.

WATCH: Israel finds weapons, military equipment used by Hamas in key Gaza hospital after raid, IDF says
AK-47's, ammunition and grenades were found in a MRI room

By Louis Casiano | Fox News
Published November 15, 2023 8:38pm EST | Updated November 15, 2023 8:49pm EST

Israel Defense Forces (IDF) released a video Wednesday showing what it said were weapons in a Hamas-run hospital inside the Gaza Strip amid international criticism that Israel has targeted medical facilities in its war with the terror group.

Israel, as well as many experts, have long said that Hamas uses hospitals as command centers and ammunition depots to conceal its military operations, putting civilians in harm's way with little regard for their safety.

The IDF video shows Lt. Col. Jonathan Conricus walking through an MRI center of the al-Shifa Hospital in Gaza after Israeli forces raided the building.

"A few of the most interesting things that we found totally confirms, without any doubt, that Hamas systematically uses hospitals in their military operations, in violation of international law," he said.


This image taken from a video released by the Israeli Defense Forces on Wednesday shows a cache of weapons the IDF says were found in a closet at the MRI center at al-Shifa hospital in Gaza City. (Israel Defense Forces via AP)

As Conricus walked through the hospital, he pointed out various weapon caches found hidden inside. Behind an MRI machine was military equipment, including an AK-47 rifle, ammunition, magazines, grenades and military uniforms, he said. Also, found was a backpack with military intelligence, he said.

More of the same was found in another MRI room. In other parts of the facility, troops found more rifles and ammunition inside a closet.

"These weapons have absolutely no business being inside a hospital," Conricus said. "The only reason they're here is because Hamas put them here, because they use this place like many other hospitals and ambulances and sensitive facilities inside the Gaza Strip for their illicit military purposes."


An image taken from a video released by the Israeli Defense Forces shows a bullet-proof vest with a Hamas insignia that was found along with weapons the IDF says were found in a medical closet at the MRI center at al-Shifa hospital in Gaza City. (Israel Defense Forces via AP)

In a bag found in another room, authorities found food, military gear, ammo magazines and an AK-47 rifle. In a cabinet that stores medical equipment, troops found another bag with Hamas military insignia and a ballistic vest.

Laptops and other electronic devices were also seized.

The Shifa Hospital has taken in thousands of displaced Gazans since the current military conflict with Israel began last month. Israeli officials claim that the facility is being used as cover by Hamas terrorists and that the group has set up its main command center underneath the building.

On Tuesday, John Kirby, spokesman for the National Security Council, said that intelligence supports Israel's claims about Hamas activities in hospitals.


Israeli Defense Forces Lt. Col. Jonathan Conricus, an Israeli military spokesman, holds up a bullet proof vest with a Hamas insignia that was found along with weapons the IDF says were found in a medical closet at the MRI center at al-Shifa hospital in Gaza City. (Israel Defense Forces via AP)

"I can confirm for you that we have information that Hamas and the Palestinian Islamic Jihad use some hospitals in the Gaza Strip, including al-Shifa, and tunnels underneath them, to conceal and to support their military operations and to hold hostages," Kirby told reporters on Air Force One.

The remarks came as Israel comes under criticism for attacks on or near hospitals in Gaza amid its response to the Oct. 7 attack by Hamas on Israeli border communities that killed around 1,400 people, many of them civilians.

Top Israeli Politicians Demand Europe & U.S. Take Gaza Refugees.

https://thenationalpulse.com/2...-take-gaza-refugees/

Israeli politicians Danny Danon and Ram Ben-Barak say they believe Western governments should open their borders and welcome refugees fleeing the Israeli ground assault underway in Gaza. Writing in the Wall Street Journal, Danon and Ben-Barak – both lawmakers serving in Israel’s Knesset – argue European governments and the United States are ideal for taking in refugees since they have “a long history of assisting refugees fleeing conflicts.”

“Global organizations with experience settling refugees should facilitate the relocation of Gaza residents who wish to move to countries willing to accept them,” write Danon and Ben-Barak. “We simply need a handful of the world’s nations to share the responsibility of hosting Gazan residents. Even if countries took in as few as 10,000 people each, it would help alleviate the crisis.”

Israel has been left scrambling to figure out a solution to the looming refugee crisis in Gaza after neighboring Arab states declined take anymore Palestinians in. A month ago, Jordan’s King Abdullah II rejected the German Chancellor Olaf Scholz’s proposal for neighboring Arab states to take in new refugees, calling it a “red line” and adding: “There will be NO refugees in Jordan and there will be NO refugees in Egypt.” The influx of Palestinian refugees into Lebanon between 1948 and 1975 played a major role in pushing the country into a civil war which effectively ended the country’s Christian majority.

While a majority of Americans continue to support Israel’s military response to the brutal October 7th Hamas terrorist attack, Israeli politicians demanding the American government take in Palestinian refugees could change that. According to Gallup, 41 percent of Americans want the rate of legal immigration into the united states reduced from current levels. Just 26 percent want to see it increase.

Danon previously served as Israel’s representative to the United Nations.

Hey “top Israeli politicians”… no.

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Originally posted by gearhounds:
Hey “top Israeli politicians”… no.

OMG - these people - this is a headline from the WSJ Online, Whatever the Israelis find will never be enough:

"Israel Searches for More Evidence of Hamas Presence at Gaza’s Largest Hospital"

Israeli military is facing growing pressure to justify its raid on the Al-Shifa complex

Link is behind paywall - but here is first part:

The Israeli military on Thursday said it continued to search through Gaza’s largest hospital for further evidence that it is used by Hamas for military purposes, as Israel faced growing pressure to justify sending troops into a medical facility.

After a day of searching through Al-Shifa Hospital in Gaza City, questioning patients, staff and displaced people sheltering inside, Israel on Wednesday released footage of AK-47 assault rifles, grenades, battle vests with Hamas insignia and other assorted military equipment it said it found hidden in the MRI wing of the hospital.

In a video, an Israeli military spokesman pointed to a laptop, a hand-held tactical radio and a set of discs as evidence of a Hamas command center in the hospital. The laptop screen was blurred and the spokesman didn’t specify what was found on it. The Israeli military didn’t show evidence Wednesday of underground complexes or prove its allegations of a Hamas tunnel network connecting to the hospital, but said it was still in the process of combing through Al-Shifa.

The Israeli search of the hospital complex illustrates the complexities of the conflict in Gaza, a densely populated area where further fighting risks more civilian casualties, and Israel’s efforts to retain international support.

Finding a command center at the Al-Shifa complex would help Israel justify to its supporters in the West the decision to send troops into a hospital. But if its intelligence turns out to be faulty, it would increase international scrutiny of the broader military campaign.

Michael Horowitz, Israel-based head of intelligence for the consulting firm Le Beck, said that the evidence presented by the Israeli military “so far is underwhelming” but that Israel would need more time to search the hospital and filter noncombatants from Hamas members passing for civilians.

“This is a very delicate operation, given how quickly it could turn into a bloodbath, which is why this is likely to be slow rather than fast,” Horowitz said. “Israel is not so much focused on winning the public opinion than not losing it all. And operationally, you need to make sure there are no hostages inside the underground facilities in Shifa, before you move in.”

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Originally posted by wcb6092:
Top Israeli Politicians Demand Europe & U.S. Take Gaza Refugees.

Even if countries took in as few as 10,000 people each, it would help alleviate the crisis.”

Hell of a way to treat countries that give you billions every year, and fought the Nazis. And just like that, my little bit of compassion I had for the Jews after the attack is gone.

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Originally posted by Voshterkoff:

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Originally posted by wcb6092:

Top Israeli Politicians Demand Europe & U.S. Take Gaza Refugees.

Even if countries took in as few as 10,000 people each, it would help alleviate the crisis.”

Hell of a way to treat countries that give you billions every year, and fought the Nazis. And just like that, my little bit of compassion I had for the Jews after the attack is gone.

Your "little bit of compassion" for millions of people is gone, because of what a couple of politicians said? Really?

https://www.aclu.org/news/immi...uing-stop-muslim-ban

I wish it was just a few politicians, but you can find thousands of news articles like this whenever a western country tries to slow the flood.

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Originally posted by wcb6092:
Top Israeli Politicians Demand Europe & U.S. Take Gaza Refugees.

I don't give a damn what Europe does. I regard it as a lost cause, anyway. But, as far as the U.S. taking these people in? They can frack straight off. No. Absolutely not.

Hell, their own neighbors want nothing to do with them.

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Originally posted by Voshterkoff:
And just like that, my little bit of compassion I had for the Jews after the attack is gone.

Fret not. You've quite an advantage in this life, what with being able to fit your heart into a sewing thimble.

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Originally posted by Voshterkoff:

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Originally posted by wcb6092:
Top Israeli Politicians Demand Europe & U.S. Take Gaza Refugees.

Even if countries took in as few as 10,000 people each, it would help alleviate the crisis.”

Hell of a way to treat countries that give you billions every year, and fought the Nazis. And just like that, my little bit of compassion I had for the Jews after the attack is gone.

The name of the country is Isreal, not "The Jews"

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Originally posted by wcb6092:
Top Israeli Politicians

Anyone think this a message to expose the pure hypocrisy of all the "Free Palestine" loons?
No one wants these "refugees". But somehow they feel that Israel should somehow support them.

Any country saying no loses the "moral highground" on Israel. And Israel can throw it back in their faces.

Voshterkoff, cut it out.

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Originally posted by Voshterkoff:

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Originally posted by wcb6092:
Top Israeli Politicians Demand Europe & U.S. Take Gaza Refugees.

Even if countries took in as few as 10,000 people each, it would help alleviate the crisis.”

Hell of a way to treat countries that give you billions every year, and fought the Nazis. And just like that, my little bit of compassion I had for the Jews after the attack is gone.

So a "little bit of compassion" is your reaction to the Hamas go pro and cell videos of their attack on October 7th?

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So a "little bit of compassion" is your reaction to the Hamas go pro and cell videos of their attack on October 7th?

He's never had very much compassion to begin with.

It’s war. Things get ugly and complicated in war. Arm chair analysis is usually myopic. There are certain entities in this world I reflexively trust. Israel ranks in the top 3. The balance of righteousness and politics is fragile in a hostile world clearly overpopulated with evil people. I cut Israel great latitude since it’s opposition is such an effective propagandist and so many accept that deception with itching ears.