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Polymer 80, PSA Dagger, Zev OZ9, Shadow Systems, BUL Armory Axe, Nomad Defense, SCT, Timberwolf, Grey Ghost Precision all make Glock frames (or complete Glock Gen3 pattern clones) that use 18° grip angle, and those are just the brands I can think of off the top of my head. | |||
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I’ve bought and sold several Glocks over the years but there are always a couple in the stable. I usually keep them stock and they run just fine. | |||
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I used to own a Glock model 20 10mm full size. It was OK, not great, not bad. Very reliable and relatively accurate. I sold it and got a SIG 220 in 10mm, which was a much nicer gun but lacked the capacity of the Glock. So, I sold the SIG and recently bought a Springfield Armory XDM in 10mm, which has been totally reliable, more accurate than the Glock and Higher capacity. The XDM looks and feels better than the Glock with the accuracy of the SIG and 16 round magazines. That is the only Glock I have ever owned in 47 years of firearms ownership, and likely ever will be. I don't see any reason to buy another one. All my other bases are covered by H&K, SA, Volquartsen and Ruger. It's not that I really dislike Glock, I just think they are pretty plain average pitols and there are better choices out there.This message has been edited. Last edited by: vjb.knife1, Rule Number Nine - Always carry a knife. | |||
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You remind me of me, back when I first shot a Glock - my newly issued duty Glock 22. I had the same two complaints - steeper grip angle than I was used to, and slide bite. The grip angle issue was fairly easily trainable, but I just had to deal with the slide bite every time I shot it. That went on for several years, until I discovered there's an easy solution for both of our complaints, an inexpensive product called the Grip Force Adapter. It adds a beavertail to prevent slide bite, and it modifies the grip angle to be a few degrees more vertical. (The factory Glock beavertails on the Gen 4 and Gen 5 only address the slide bite while keeping the factory grip angle, although you can cut down a factory beavertail to mimic the GFA and achieve the same effect.) It's what helped me to learn to embrace the Glock. Now I own six, plus my issued Glock 17, all with Grip Force Adapters installed. Although I do usually carry a P320C or P365X, on and off duty.   | |||
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Just picked this G21 Gen 5 up for my B&T chassis. Now I just need a black threaded barrel. Unfortunately, there don't seem to be any available at this time, so looks like I will be waiting a while.  | |||
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They've come factory with two choices of beavertail backstrap for nigh on a decade now. Like you, they used to slide track me, but I use the beavertails and they don't now. You might give another one a go. There's more than a few really competent shooters who can shoot better than minute of accuracy who picked up a Glock and made it work fine because they applied the fundamentals. If a 4° difference has you putting rounds in the ceiling, some time with an instructor might benefit you even if you stick with 1911's. ______________________________________________ “There are plenty of good reasons for fighting, but no good reason ever to hate without reservation, to imagine that God Almighty Himself hates with you, too.” | |||
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Some agency is trading in Gen 5s already? That's nuts. Maybe they are transitioning to P320s... | |||
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Or G45s. Or G47s. Or they're going with red dots for all their officers and trading in their remaining standard G17s for G17 MOSs. Or perhaps that agency was an early adopter of the Gen 5 and now are hitting the point where they need newer night sights and springs... DaBigBR broke down the reasoning a few years back in another thread:
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We’ve traded a number of our Gen5s in already. | |||
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G21s with a TLR-1 were our duty guns before I retired 10 years ago. They were big, fat, ugly things,  but we had training days at the range every month, rain, snow, ice, or shine, and I don't recall one ever going down.------------------------------------------------ "It's hard to imagine a more stupid or dangerous way of making decisions, than by putting those decisions in the hands of people who pay no price for being wrong." Thomas Sowell | |||
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Were you guys an early adopter? Mind sharing if you recycled to newer versions or moved to something different eg RDS? ------------------------------------------------ 9/11/01 Never Forget "In valor there is hope" - Tacitus | |||
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AAARRGGHH!!!!! Long story short- the people that come up with my departments weapons policy are morons. My department wants to transition to 9mm only one day. Thru attrition they are phasing out .40 and .45. I'm one of the older generation .45 fans. They are slowly phasing in the RMR/red-dots for handguns. I have a 3rd Gen G-21, and would like to get a 5th Gen G-21 MOS. Toss a RMR & a WML on there, and I have a new duty weapon. no-can-do-buck-a-roo! If I "need" (as in my original weapon is now non-functional) to replace it, it has to be with another 3rd Gen. ______________________________________________________________________ "When its time to shoot, shoot. Dont talk!" “What the government is good at is collecting taxes, taking away your freedoms and killing people. It’s not good at much else.” —Author Tom Clancy | |||
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Can point shoot to almost MOA with a 1911? Hell, I'd love it if I could almost point shoot an HOA (hour of angle) with a pistol.  | |||
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Years ago, I bought a Glock 36. I didn't fall in love with it. Besides being lacking asthmatic appeal, the trigger felt like squeezing a used diaper. | |||
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I think squeezing the used diaper made him wheeze? | |||
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I have asthma. I appeal to some people. So I certainly have asthmatic appeal. "Guns are tools. The only weapon ever created was man." | |||
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This is the first time in the last five years that I’ve visited SIG Forum. I’m glad to see this thread is still on the first page. In that time I’ve bought and sold several Glocks. I currently have my third G19 and a G20. Thinking about adding a G32. Lord help me. "Like a horse has its rider, and the sky has its moon, a man has his loneliness, mistaken as pride." -Longmire | |||
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Jefferson City? | |||
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