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White House Spokesperson Jennifer Psaki said the Biden administration would “not be deterred” by the Supreme Court decision, and all employers should immediately continue to “initiate vaccination requirements.”


I'm guessing some companies will still attempt to force it. I also would imagine they open themselves up for lawsuits?

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Didn’t take an hour for my company to send out the blast to stop any further discussions with our folks. The mandate is dead, we’re not going to enforce anything.



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My daughter and both my sons breathed a huge sigh of relief today knowing they cannot be forced into the jab. Someone needs to file for impeachment now. Telling companies to ignore the rule of law and do his bidding certainly must be impeachable.


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Did y'all hear/read the dissenting opinion? Good Lord. What an embarrassment. They're not guided by law. Three of the six of the prevailing opinion were put on the court by Trump. Thank God.



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Consider this as a possible situation. You and your wife 'could' have regular influenza (rapid tests are notorious for being inaccurate, hence the reason she tested positive and you negative). Also, I don't think the rapid tests are super accurate in telling the difference between influenza (which is a corona virus) and Covid. At any rate, the treatment for both is very similar, so keep doing what you're doing and fingers crossed, you and your wife will get to feeling better real soon.


I think then after the scheduled PCR COVID test today, I will go to a clinic and get tested for the flu. That way if it is, I can get something like Tamiflu and be taking within 48 hours of initial symptoms.


I ended up being able to see my doctor today for the flu test, but based on what I told them they wanted to do a COVID test first. I tested positive this time. Since I am high-risk, they are going to set me up for the monoclonal infusion, but that will probably be four days out due to shortages.

Before my appointment, I stopped by two Tractor Supply stores that online showed they had ivermectin in stock and both were totally sold out. They had warning signs posted not to be buying it for human consumption.




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Nice. I still don't understand how the health care one is staying. I don't understand what laws grants the federal government the ability to do that.

Roberts is a known disaster, but Kavanaugh--what a disappointment.



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My daughter and both my sons breathed a huge sigh of relief today knowing they cannot be forced into the jab. Someone needs to file for impeachment now. Telling companies to ignore the rule of law and do his bidding certainly must be impeachable.


Companies and even States ("vaccine" passports) aren't prohibited from requiring people from getting this shot as a result of this ruling. It prohibits the feds. Just fyi.


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I ended up being able to see my doctor today for the flu test, but based on what I told them they wanted to do a COVID test first. I tested positive this time. Since I am high-risk, they are going to set me up for the monoclonal infusion, but that will probably be four days out due to shortages.

Before my appointment, I stopped by two Tractor Supply stores that online showed they had ivermectin in stock and both were totally sold out. They had warning signs posted not to be buying it for human consumption.

Good luck with your Monoclonal Antibodies Infusion. It worked very well for my wife.


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Nice. I still don't understand how the health care one is staying. I don't understand what laws grants the federal government the ability to do that.

Roberts is a known disaster, but Kavanaugh--what a disappointment.

My thoughts exactly. At least ACB is starting to show some backbone?



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My daughter and grandchildren have Medicaid, and they haven't been forced to get vaccinated (yet).

Also, the SC said OSHA can't require it, they did not say a private company can't require it.
 
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Just saw something about Biden is already telling states to impose their own mandates and ignore the SC ruling today. Fucking guy is a real piece of work…now he’s all about states rights? Roll Eyes


 
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Nice. I still don't understand how the health care one is staying. I don't understand what laws grants the federal government the ability to do that.

Roberts is a known disaster, but Kavanaugh--what a disappointment.

My thoughts exactly. At least ACB is starting to show some backbone?


It’s past precedent, in 1970 or so the Nixon administration wanted to set a nationwide speed limit of 55mph, some states refused, the Supreme Court held if the state took Federal funds for Highway safety, they had to set the 55 speed limit. Same rationale is if a health care facility takes Federal Money they can mandate a jab based on the acceptance of the funds.
 
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President Two Scoops just can't catch a break.


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Good luck with your Monoclonal Antibodies Infusion. It worked very well for my wife.

Didn't do diddly for mine. Leastwise, not as far as we could tell. But they weren't able to schedule her until she was at the very end of the 10-day window.



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These cases are not about the efficacy or importance of COVID–19 vaccines. They are only about whether CMS has the statutory authority to force healthcare workers, by coercing their employers, to undergo a medical procedure they do not want and cannot undo. Because the Government has not made a strong showing that Congress gave CMS that broad authority, I would deny the stays pending appeal. I respectfully dissent.
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Nice. I still don't understand how the health care one is staying. I don't understand what laws grants the federal government the ability to do that.

Roberts is a known disaster, but Kavanaugh--what a disappointment.

My thoughts exactly. At least ACB is starting to show some backbone?


It’s past precedent, in 1970 or so the Nixon administration wanted to set a nationwide speed limit of 55mph, some states refused, the Supreme Court held if the state took Federal funds for Highway safety, they had to set the 55 speed limit. Same rationale is if a health care facility takes Federal Money they can mandate a jab based on the acceptance of the funds.


Because making a rule on a priviledge is the exact same thing as violating a persons right to be secure in their person.

Complete apples and oranges comparison.
 
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My daughter and grandchildren have Medicaid, and they haven't been forced to get vaccinated (yet). Also, the SC said OSHA can't require it, they did not say a private company can't require it.


You've opened a can of thought worms.Smile I checked briefly and am not sure if North Carolina took the Medicaid expansion. Either way, the implications of this SCOTUS ruling on Obamacare aren't clear.

The State of Washington did of course go for the Medicaid expansion, and all of those insurance companies on the "exchange" which are supposed to be competing for my business have dwindled down to one privately owned insurance company.
 
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Also, the SC said OSHA can't require it, they did not say a private company can't require it.
These companies no longer have a reason to inflict these mandates on their workers given the current data confirming vaccines do not prevent the spread of Covid. They also have no legal justification anymore, so maybe someone should remind them that an employee who ends up having an adverse reaction to these 'experimental' drugs just might sue the hell out of them. My bet, that approach should turn all but the most spectacularly moronic away from this BS.


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White House Spokesperson Jennifer Psaki said the Biden administration would “not be deterred” by the Supreme Court decision, and all employers should immediately continue to “initiate vaccination requirements.”


I'm guessing some companies will still attempt to force it. I also would imagine they open themselves up for lawsuits?

Link


Didn’t take an hour for my company to send out the blast to stop any further discussions with our folks. The mandate is dead, we’re not going to enforce anything.


My company has a mandate and is enforcing it. A coworker is being fired on the 21st. We are a pharma company so not sure if that counts under healthcare.




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So now its not the Government being tyrannical - its both private and publicly traded companies that are.

Here is a question. If a company can require you to take an experimental poke for C19, what stops them from demanding all your vaccination records and mandating dozens of other vaccinations? Same thing for restaurants and entertainment venues?
 
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