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Nullus Anxietas
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I feel bad for the owner, especially since he's trying so hard, but I would not be the least bit interested in dining out under those conditions.



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This is what a restaurant in Berwyn, PA, just outside of Philly, posted this week about how his “new normal” is going to be when he’s finally allowed to re-open which is months and months off yet knowing our state.

People thought this was some sort of satire but the owner is dead serious, he’s insisting this is how it’s going to be for a long time to keep Gov Wolf’s goons off his back. I say why bother with this? People aren’t interested in something this surreal and 1984-esque and I predict he ends up closing:
He had better have one hell of a product that people can't get anywhere else, otherwise, he just spent a lot of time and money in a "Going out of business" effort.


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A guy could make a good living selling VR goggles and offering virtual reality of eating in a room full of people and sell them to restaurant owners.

Hell, the restaurant owners could have their own VR program where they are sitting at a table staring at extreme piles of cash.

You know, while all the pretending and make belive is in style...

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Posts: 44762 | Location: ...... I am thrice divorced, and I live in a van DOWN BY THE RIVER!!! (in Arkansas) | Registered: December 20, 2008Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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So for the restaurant using UVC, is he planning on using it on his patrons? He mentions using at the entrance and in the bathroom hallways. Isn't UVC dangerous to humans? Also can damage eyesight if I remember correctly if looked at directly.

I know short skin exposure would not be a big deal, but knowingly subjecting people to a known cancer causing agent can't be too smart. Some people hunt for a reason to sue. Long term exposure on his servers and hostess's might be a more pressing concern.

Not a Dr. or pretend to be an expert, so could very well be wrong.



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Yeah, that ain't a winning business model. Can you imagine taking your wife or date out for a nice meal and being subjected to that? I have to wonder how long this fear will permeate society.


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Come on guys, if it saves one life Roll Eyes

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Well, looks like I'll continue to eat at his competition next door, if we ever get to eat out again. Frankie's Fellini cafe it is, then!


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Brentwood Couple in Critical Condition After Man Angry About COVID-19 Shutdown Allegedly Attacks Them With Machete

https://tennesseestar.com/2020...s-them-with-machete/

A homeless man who allegedly and repeatedly struck a married Brentwood couple with a machete Sunday said the COVID-19 shutdowns prompted him to lash out and attack the two individuals.

Officials at the Nashville Rescue Mission also infuriated the man, Kelvin D. Edwards, 35, (pictured above) when they turned him away from their facility.

This, according to a statement Nashville officials put out Monday.

Authorities charged Edwards with two counts of attempted murder for what they call an “unprovoked and random machete attack” Sunday as the husband and wife waited at the office of a storage facility on Fifth Avenue South.

Edwards is a convicted felon, according to the statement.

Nashville Rescue Mission spokeswoman Cheryl Chunn told The Tennessee Star Monday that facility operators rejected Edwards for a reason.

“All guests that are requesting a bed are expected to have a COVID-19 test done before entering. He was not part of the original 400 people tested in March. Because he was not, we need to have all guests be tested, and we asked him to do so. The testing is being done at Nissan Stadium, and we directed him there,” Chunn said in an email.

“If and when he got the test, he could come back to the Mission with the slip stating that he received a test. He would have been given a bed ticket in a dorm with other guests awaiting the results of the test. This is standard procedure during this pandemic. We have 400 or more men here and cannot risk someone coming in without knowing if they are positive for COVID or not.”

Chunn said the Mission accepts all people who come there, unless they are “of harm to themselves or others.”

“We do not do background checks at the Men’s campus and therefore have no idea about their criminal record,” Chunn said.

“In fact, he has been a guest with us in the past.”

Nashville Police spokesman Don Aaron told The Star the following in an emailed statement Monday night:

The victims are recovering from their very serious wounds inflicted by the 18-inch blade machete. Edwards is being held in the Metro Jail without bond.

According to the press release, Edwards entered the office and, without warning, repeatedly struck the victims with his machete, even after they were on the floor badly bleeding. Authorities sent the two victims, Kevin Craft, 55, and Leanne Craft, 50, to Vanderbilt University Medical Center. Six MNPD officers used their special training in trauma care to apply multiple tourniquets to the victims in an effort to control the bleeding and save their lives.

“The investigation, which is being led by Detective Brent Fisher, shows that Edwards, who is homeless, had a bin at Public Storage, which apparently contained the machete. In an interview with Detective Fisher, Edwards spoke of his anger over the COVID-19 shutdowns and his inability to get into the Rescue Mission,” the press release said.

“It appears Edwards retrieved the machete from his bin and explained that he decided to demonstrate his anger in the violent attack on the Crafts, who he did not know. The Emergency Communications Center received a 911 call about the attack at 2:47 p.m. Officer Phillip Claibourne was on the scene quickly and had Edwards in custody at 2:50 p.m. After the attack, Edwards walked out of the storage facility, threw the machete down, and stood in the street raising his hands as the siren of Officer Claibourne’s approaching police car got louder.”

Edwards, who on Sunday carried an Arkansas driver license with a Little Rock address, has been in Nashville since at least 2016, the year of his first arrests here. He was convicted of felony vandalism in 2017 and, while in jail, was charged with deliberately spitting on two Davidson County Sheriff’s deputies. They prosecuted him on two counts of assault. He was convicted on both charges, the press release said.



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Surgeons wear masks and gloves to protect the patient from airborne spittle and from contaminants that may be on their hands even after washing (and flakes of skin maybe?). Once scrubbed in, the surgeon does not touch anything but sterile instruments, does not touch his face or mask, and the gloves and mask are removed when he leaves the OR.

I remember as a kid doctors and dentists didn't wear gloves, just washed their hands before contacting the patient. The AIDS scare changed that with gloves becoming common. But the most likely risk to a medical worker is stabbing themselves with a contained sharp that goes right through the glove. Gloves are changed for every patient and disposed of in a controlled manner (biohazard trash).

Contrast this with the general public's use of masks and gloves. As others said, people still touch things and then their eyes and face with gloved hands. Masks are and gloves are worn all day and reused. And I'm guessing they are not removed and disposed of in a manner that would prevent contact with any contamination on the outer surface. It's all theater, people don't have a clue how to properly use any of this stuff. And people don't get this from walking past someone for a few seconds, it takes sustained close contact for a several minutes at least.

Is there some marginal benefit if you are infectious? Possibly, but if you're coughing and sneezing then you really should be staying at home.

Surgical mask wearing in east Asia is somewhat common, in China partially due to pollution, but also (esp. in Japan) to avoid infecting others if you are sick because the population is dense and most people have to use public transportation. And if you've been on the subway during rush hour in Tokyo or Beijing, you are in contact, literally, with others passengers. It is so packed you have to plan your move to the door about two stops ahead or you won't make it when the train stops at your intended stop.
 
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Turned on CNN for a little while today and wow they are just non-stop talking about hydroxychloroquine and Trump taking it like it's some kind of experimental cocktail drug that's never been used.

It's been around for a long time and it's commonly used to prevent Malaria and for Lupas without major issues. Yes there are side effects, but look at any prescription drug and read the list of potential side effects, including the rare but severe ones for which you should immediately stop taking the drug. ALL drugs have warnings, and many sound bad (especially on TV commercials), but this is not out of the ordinary.

Then they kept referencing the studies that showed it did not help, except they neglected to say that the VA study was with severely ill terminal patients as kind of a hail Mary play. The doctors who have reported success with hydroxycholoroquine all say the same thing - use it early before the patient gets severely ill, and use in combination with zinc and azythromicin or it doesn't work. You have to use it early because it is believed to prevent hemoglobin from irreparably losing it's iron thus putting the patient into oxygen starvation. And the studies that show no effect? Yep, no zinc either.

And they cited FDA statements that it hasn't been proven to treat this virus. Well of course the FDA legally has to say that because it has not gone through FDA approved double blind testing, which takes years. And Trump is encouraging people to "steal" the drug from people that need it for Lupas.

There will be no drug treatment for this until we get something that was created with money from a leftist billionaire - and certainly not until after the election.
 
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30 MAIN should just change their name to 'Closed due to Stupidity'.




 
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Restrictions for the State of Alaska to be lifted Friday. Governor stating it's individuals responsibility and not the state's to maintain caution. As usual, the Mayor of Anchorage has nothing definitive to say except that he doesn't;t agree with the governor.

https://www.adn.com/alaska-new...a-businesses-friday/

Gov. Dunleavy to lift most coronavirus restrictions on Alaska businesses Friday
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Alaska will fully reopen its economy on Friday at 8 a.m., Gov. Mike Dunleavy announced Tuesday evening.

Bars, restaurants, gyms, retail stores and all other businesses will be able to open ahead of the Memorial Day weekend without any capacity restrictions imposed by the state.

“It will all be open, just like it was prior to the virus," Dunleavy said.

The state is moving to phases 3 and 4 of its reopening plan simultaneously, he said.

It wasn’t immediately clear whether some communities would follow the state’s decision. Dunleavy said it was possible that some would lag behind the state guidance.

In a Tuesday night interview, Anchorage Mayor Ethan Berkowitz said his team would review the data through the week and make a decision Friday that would go into effect Monday, as the city did in previous phases of reopening.

Berkowitz said if the data continues the way it has, he might consider lifting capacity restrictions while keeping in place “best practices” like having hand sanitizer near entrances to businesses.

“What are businesses going to do to maintain the physical separation and the hygiene? Which is a change from just the percent opening, and a move to what the best practices are,” Berkowitz said. “But we’re still debating whether we can implement something like that, and whether that makes the most sense.”

Berkowitz said he saw the governor’s plan and does not feel there will be a large disconnect between state and city policy.

“I don’t see a significant difference in practical terms,” Berkowitz said.

The governor said the state is still advising protocol like staying six feet away from each other while in businesses and wearing masks when near other people in public places, but the regulations previously imposed will be lifted.

Businesses will not be required to have hand sanitizer or enact social distancing policies as they are now.

“I think the people of Alaska get that they need to stay away from folks if they don’t want to get the virus,” he said. “That they need to wash their hands and wipe things down. People get that.”

The governor’s initial “Reopen Alaska Responsibly Plan” showed that businesses in Phase 3 could open to 75% of their usual capacity, but the Dunleavy administration clarified Tuesday that there are no capacity restrictions during this new phase.

The reopening also includes places of worship, libraries, museums, recreational activities and sports, according to the governor’s office.

Alaska is currently in phase 2, which means restaurants and stores are allowed to open at half their capacity while bars, gyms and theaters can open at a quarter of their capacity.

Berkowitz said it’s important to make sure people feel comfortable going into a business. But he also said when there are clear rules, it helps protect businesses from liability lawsuits that could arise. All those things need to be considered before transitioning further.

“You don’t just flip a switch and open a business in a pandemic and expect things to return to normal,” Berkowitz said.

Dunleavy said he knows that case numbers will increase, but the state is prepared to deal with that.


The low number of cases overall drove the state’s decision, he said.

“It’s going to be up to the establishment and the individual," Dunleavy said.

The transition keeps Alaska at the forefront of states moving to reopen their economy as the spread of the coronavirus starts to taper off locally.

“There are a whole host of issues that occur when you tell people to hunker down and hide,” Dunleavy said. “The economy gets in trouble, people’s mental and emotional health goes sideways. Spiritual health as well, when you’re dealing with churches.”

Dunleavy said individual cities and boroughs may choose to move at a different pace. The 14-day interstate travel quarantine remains in place and is set to expire June 2. Dunleavy said his staff is talking with airlines this week to find ways to allow travelers to enter the state in a safe way, and that quarantine mandate will be reevaluated daily.

Dunleavy said large gatherings, like festivals, should be organized with the assistance of public health officials.

When asked if there is concern that Alaska is moving to phase 4 without fully understanding the impacts of phase 2, Dunleavy said he believes some businesses will stay closed and others will remain operating with limited capacity.

In addition, the state is still restricting visits to senior living facilities as well as prisons. Several other mandates put in place by the governor remain in effect, including limited travel to Alaska communities off the road system, precautions surrounding elective medical and dental procedures, and measures to protect commercial fishing vessels.

Dunleavy said because of that, he believes the increase in cases will remain manageable.

“You’re going to see business done differently, you’re going to see people behave differently, on their own,” Dunleavy said.

An email from a Dunleavy spokeswoman said that the official guidelines for the next phase, which begins Friday, would be posted to the state’s website on Thursday.

There were no new cases of COVID-19 reported by the state Tuesday, based on Monday’s statewide test results. But new cases announced by others Tuesday will likely be reflected in state data released later.

On Tuesday afternoon, the Maniilaq Association, a Northwest Alaska health care provider, announced that a person in Kotzebue had tested positive for COVID-19 after arriving there from a different community.

Additionally, the state’s Department of Corrections announced that an inmate at the Anchorage Correctional Complex tested positive for COVID-19.

State guidance for Alaskans

A presentation by Gov. Dunleavy on Tuesday reminded the public that “the success of remaining open now lies fully in the hands of Alaskans.” As the state moves toward a more comprehensive reopening, officials recommend that Alaskans continue taking the following measures to protect themselves and others from contracting COVID-19:

• Stay at least 6 feet from people who aren’t members of your household.

• Continue washing your hands frequently.

• Clean and disinfect frequently touched surfaces regularly.

• If you’re feeling sick, stay at home. If you have COVID-19 symptoms, get tested.


• Wear a mask or face covering in public places where it’s difficult to maintain physical distancing.

• If you’re working remotely, work with your employer to see if you can continue doing so.




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Posts: 11956 | Location: Eagle River, AK | Registered: September 12, 2006Reply With QuoteReport This Post
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https://youtu.be/hM9OvtAnoHY

Crazy. I watched the vids from the guy because he makes true underground shelters. Saw this pop up today and said holy shit, look at our DPS. Shameful.



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Australian study: COVID-19 spreads in schools 'considerably less' than influenza

https://justthenews.com/politi..._campaign=newsletter

A study out of Australia shows the spread of COVID-19 is not driven by children in educational environments, a finding expected to influence the ongoing debate about when to reopen schools in many Western countries.

Authorities in the United States, the European countries and other nations around the world began shutting down schools in February and March under the assumption that schoolhouses – packed full of children and usually hotspots of community virus transmission – would contribute to major coronavirus outbreaks. Many public officials, particularly in the U.S., have vowed to keep schools closed until the fall and possibly beyond.

Yet health authorities are beginning to question that approach to pandemic mitigation

Soumya Swaminathan, the chief scientist at the World Health Organization, said last week that "children don't seem to be getting severely ill from this infection," that there "have not been big outbreaks in schools" where they have remained open, and that it sees "children are less capable of spreading" the virus.

The study out of Australia, released last month by the National Centre for Immunisation Research and Surveillance, found that "SARS-CoV-2 transmission in children in schools appears considerably less than seen for other respiratory viruses, such as influenza."

The study determined that, out of hundreds of "close contacts" that were in proximity to numerous positive COVID-19 patients in a school environment, only a scant number contracted the disease there.

"In contrast to influenza, data from both virus and antibody testing to date suggest that children are not the primary drivers of COVID-19 spread in schools or in the community," the researchers said.

"This is consistent with data from international studies showing low rates of disease in children and suggesting limited spread among children and from children to adults," they also said.

The researchers do note that, in mid-March, the government advised parents to keep their children at home for online learning even as schools remained open. Following that advice, "face-to-face attendance in schools decreased significantly and this may have impacted the results of this investigation." School holidays in early April may have also affected the results.

Children in Australia began to return to school earlier this month as part of a staggered re-opening plan.


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Ohio Senator Sherrod Brown says Trump opening things up way too quickly. "How many workers must die just to improve the GDP?" Man these lib assholes just suck with their narrative.


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It's all the democrats have and they know it. Doing everything they can to tank our economy is the last rock they have to throw at Trump.

They just aren't bright enough to understand how much this will backfire on them in November.



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Another sanctuary city in California, but wait….you'll like this one. Local mayor declares his city a sanctuary for businesses against Newsom's orders.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...mKyL?ocid=spartanntp
 
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One of the main reasons I dumped the local fishwrap (the Mining Urinal) was because they featured a column by Sherrod Browns wife.
If you think he is an idiot, you should read her dreck.


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Yeesh. The owner sounds like a real piece of work.

He's busy going off on anyone who has criticized his new 1984-style "new normal" plan on his FB page and if you look at his Yelp page and dare to give him any guff about your experience, he's coming for you.

Not sure how this guy has made it 8 years now at that place. Roll Eyes


 
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