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Supreme Court Blocks Vaccine Mandate

https://news.yahoo.com/supreme...id-19-193050385.html


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Supreme court made its decision.No vaccine,testing or masks for business over 100 employees. The health care industry must vaccinate in most cases.




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Nice. I still don't understand how the health care one is staying. I don't understand what laws grants the federal government the ability to do that.



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Nice. I still don't understand how the health care one is staying. I don't understand what laws grants the federal government the ability to do that.


I think it's because of Medicare/Medicaid funds. But I'm sure others will chime in.





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Supreme Court Blocks Vaccine Mandate

https://news.yahoo.com/supreme...id-19-193050385.html


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In dissent, the court's three liberals argued that it was the court that was overreaching by substituting its judgment for that of health experts. “Acting outside of its competence and without legal basis, the Court displaces the judgments of the Government officials given the responsibility to respond to workplace health emergencies," Justices Stephen Breyer, Elena Kagan and Sonia Sotomayor wrote in a joint dissent.


Quick question. Do you dipshits know who was responsible for there being LITERALLY HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE DEATHLY ALERGIC TO PEANUTS?

I'll save you the brain work: Health Experts. My own kid's pediatrician said, "Oh yeah we got that one wrong. That was our bad. You should totally expose your kids to peanuts and peanut butter very early on."

Dipshits.




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Nice. I still don't understand how the health care one is staying. I don't understand what laws grants the federal government the ability to do that.


I think it's because of Medicare/Medicaid funds. But I'm sure others will chime in.


Yep - due to these places taking Medicare and Medicaid - which is an easy fix - stop taking both and tell the gov suck hind tit - but we know how this will go - healthcare org I worked for some years back was raking it in thanks to Medicare and Medicaid

Now if all healthcare workers walked away from places that forced it and went to places that didn't then that would shift the tide and these places doing Medicare and Medicaid wouldn't have the staff to even provide services let alone bill for it through Medicare and Medicaid
 
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SCOTUS: "COVID–19 can and does spread at home, in schools, during sporting events, and everywhere else that people gather. That kind of universal risk is no different from the day-to-day dangers that all face from crime, air pollution, or any number of communicable diseases."



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Nice. I still don't understand how the health care one is staying. I don't understand what laws grants the federal government the ability to do that.

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It is called CMS which is the bane of those working in healthcare. They set the pay scale as well. They will just turn off the money faucet to begin with. Other consequences will follow.
 
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Nice. I still don't understand how the health care one is staying. I don't understand what laws grants the federal government the ability to do that.

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It is called CMS which is the bane of those working in healthcare. They set the pay scale as well. They will just turn off the money faucet to begin with. Other consequences will follow.


Not if they had said money can't be tied to individual health decisions of employees of those companies. How far does that extend? Could the .gov say no more contracts for you until all employees have electric vehicles since global warming is a existential health crisis?



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Not if they had said money can't be tied to individual health decisions of employees of those companies. How far does that extend? Could the .gov say no more contracts for you until all employees have electric vehicles since global warming is a existential health crisis?
Jeezus, Skins...don't give those phukktards any ideas!!!! Eek Eek



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In the 1970’s the Supreme Court ruled if a state accepts Federal funds for Highway safety, repair etc… the speed limit is 55 to accept the funds. If a hospital is accepting Federal funding, Medicare/Medicaid the jab can be required, similar reasoning.
 
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In the 1907’s the Supreme Court ruled if a state accepts Federal funds for Highway safety, repair etc… the speed limit is 55 to accept the funds. If a hospital is accepting Federal funding, Medicare/Medicaid the jab can be required, similar reasoning.

Which is why the federal contractor requirement is likely to stay also. That's going to be the interesting challenge. Right now anyone registered on SAM.gov must show compliance with the commmunist edict of sniffy the pedo.


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Not if they had said money can't be tied to individual health decisions of employees of those companies. How far does that extend? Could the .gov say no more contracts for you until all employees have electric vehicles since global warming is a existential health crisis?

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It is more complicated than you can imagine. No hospital can run without CMS. Can the military run without funding from the Defense Department? I don't like it one bit. Ask your physician about Medicare and Medicaid. They are allowed to dictate such things as vaccination just like the military.
 
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In dissent, the court's three liberals argued that it was the court that was overreaching by substituting its judgment for that of health experts. “Acting outside of its competence and without legal basis, the Court displaces the judgments of the Government officials given the responsibility to respond to workplace health emergencies," Justices Stephen Breyer, Elena Kagan and Sonia Sotomayor wrote in a joint dissent.


Quick question. Do you dipshits know who was responsible for there being LITERALLY HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE DEATHLY ALERGIC TO PEANUTS?

I'll save you the brain work: Health Experts. My own kid's pediatrician said, "Oh yeah we got that one wrong. That was our bad. You should totally expose your kids to peanuts and peanut butter very early on."

Dipshits.
You missed the boat too. These GD black garbed morons are so stupid its painful to even read their twaddle. Hey retards, what if healthcare "professionals/experts" decreed the best way to stop the virus was to simply exterminate a couple hundred Americans deemed to be the primary spreaders? Would ya still defer to the 'experts'? Your F'ing job, which you have no goddamn clue about, is to determine if the mandates are legal under existing law. Healthcare expert opinions don't even factor into that discussion. We now have concrete proof that 30% of SCOTUS is simply too stupid to allow to weigh in on anything.


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Which one of the SCOTUS lunkheads said in the arguments that they- essentially- weren't aware of the Tenth Amendment? Kagan? Sotomayor?
 
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Sotomayor. The wise latina woman.

“I’m not sure I understand the distinction why the states would have the power [to institute a mandate such as OSHA’s], but the federal government wouldn’t,” stated the associate justice.


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White House Spokesperson Jennifer Psaki said the Biden administration would “not be deterred” by the Supreme Court decision, and all employers should immediately continue to “initiate vaccination requirements.”


I'm guessing some companies will still attempt to force it. I also would imagine they open themselves up for lawsuits?

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The whole silly hysteria will wind down...Omicron is the 'vaccine' that we can only dream about. This is the last gasp for the leftist. After the midterms, the clueless fockers may never get close to national power again. They ran in the center and ruled from the far left. We'll live with this germ and future scholars will have the fun job of explaining how we were just another country failed by it's worthless political class.
 
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Seeing more and more people here not wearing a mask in places that require it. The spell is breaking for some. We may finally be getting to a point where reasonable people have had enough, especially with the panic of this next “wave.” I’m also getting more overtly hostile vibes from some others who are still entranced. The next six months are going to be interesting here.


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