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Originally posted by HuskySig:

Pfizer had something like $32B worth of vaccine related profits in 2021. You'd have to be naive to think it's not at least partly about the money.

Sure. To Pfizer it is about money. But Pfizer can't force people to take their shot. They need the media and governments for that.

The ultimate end goal for these elitists is power and control. Money is a means to an end.

Meanwhile in Salt Lake City…

Salt Lake City Tribune editorial calls for National Guard to keep unvaccinated people in their homes

The Salt Lake City Tribune editorial board published an editorial on Saturday that called on the Utah governor to use the National Guard to prevent unvaccinated citizens from going anywhere.

In an editorial titled, "Utah leaders have surrendered to COVID pandemic, the Editorial Board writes" the paper lays blame at elected officials for failing to mandate the vaccine for all citizens. The paper asserted that if Utah was a "civilized place," Republican Gov. Spencer Cox would implement a COVID-19 vaccine mandate for the state and have the National Guard enforce the mandate by not letting unvaccinated people go "anywhere."

"Were Utah a truly civilized place, the governor’s next move would be to find a way to mandate the kind of mass vaccination campaign we should have launched a year ago, going as far as to deploy the National Guard to ensure that people without proof of vaccination would not be allowed, well, anywhere," the editorial board wrote.

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Originally posted by SIGnified:

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

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Originally posted by slosig:
Could it really be all about the money?

Money? No. It's about power and control.

Money = power + control

Every msm nightly news was sponsored by Pfizer last year.

Tony Montana wasn't far off....

In this country, first you get the money,
then, you get the power, then you get the women...

The Salt Lake City Tribune is a leftist trash rag.

What we (Utah) should be doing is mobilizing the guard to expel this infestation of parasites that occupy a large portion of Salt Lake and Summit counties. Some of the most awful, arrogant, intolerable democrats that I have ever met live in this state.

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Originally posted by slosig:
It seems a little astounding to me that it is so important that people be “injected” (sorry, I can’t bring myself to call the jab a vaccine when it clearly doesn’t meet the long understood definition) that healthcare workers who have not been injected must be fired, but when it comes down to it, the folks making policy decisions are fine with those have active infections treating patients. Would the folks making these decisions really rather be in a room with people that have been injected and are infected than in a room with people who have not been injected and are not infected? Are they really that confused, or do they just not care about the people for whom they are making decisions?

I still don’t understand why they are pushing the injections so hard when the science is abundantly clear that the injections do not prevent infection, do not prevent spread, appear to increase infection with Omicron, and appear to be of waning/questionable benefitin reducing symptoms while providing plenty of nasty side effects. What is the impetus? Could it really be all about the money?

I think its got much to do with keeping the people back on their heels because we might decide restitution is owed for high crimes and stolen elections. These sons of bitches will spare no cost to keep from being found out and punished. They live in a different world than we. If America ever pulls together and gets down to the dirty work of making things right for the country, these criminals will pay their dept in finality.

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Originally posted by dgshooter:
“President Biden’s strongest supporters are most likely to endorse the harshest punishments against those who won’t get the COVID-19 vaccine. Among voters who have a Very Favorable impression of Biden, 51% are in favor of government putting the unvaccinated in “designated facilities,” and 54% favor imposing fines or prison sentences on vaccine critics,” said the pollster.

Not surprising. Most of them would support imprisoning anyone who disagrees with them.

I think WAY too many people are completely missing this. THE MAJORITY of Biden's strongest supporters are in favor of sending anyone to the camps for not taking the shots, or even for merely criticizing the Great Potato's pandemic "strategy."

Not merely criticizing them, or excluding them from the workplace or restaurants or schools. Actually in favor of harnessing government authority and sending them-- in other words, US-- to literal camps.

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Originally posted by Ronin1069:
Meanwhile in Salt Lake City…

Salt Lake City Tribune editorial calls for National Guard to keep unvaccinated people in their homes

The Salt Lake City Tribune editorial board published an editorial on Saturday that called on the Utah governor to use the National Guard to prevent unvaccinated citizens from going anywhere.

In an editorial titled, "Utah leaders have surrendered to COVID pandemic, the Editorial Board writes" the paper lays blame at elected officials for failing to mandate the vaccine for all citizens. The paper asserted that if Utah was a "civilized place," Republican Gov. Spencer Cox would implement a COVID-19 vaccine mandate for the state and have the National Guard enforce the mandate by not letting unvaccinated people go "anywhere."

"Were Utah a truly civilized place, the governor’s next move would be to find a way to mandate the kind of mass vaccination campaign we should have launched a year ago, going as far as to deploy the National Guard to ensure that people without proof of vaccination would not be allowed, well, anywhere," the editorial board wrote.

That mindset is absolutely unbelievable! Talk about “show me your papers” Nazi bull$hit. Yeah because if you have the vaccine you can’t get the virus or spread it I am fully vaccinated and here I sit at home quarantined due to getting COVID and a bad case of it at that.

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Originally posted by dgshooter:
“President Biden’s strongest supporters are most likely to endorse the harshest punishments against those who won’t get the COVID-19 vaccine. Among voters who have a Very Favorable impression of Biden, 51% are in favor of government putting the unvaccinated in “designated facilities,” and 54% favor imposing fines or prison sentences on vaccine critics,” said the pollster.

Not surprising. Most of them would support imprisoning anyone who disagrees with them.

I think WAY too many people are completely missing this. THE MAJORITY of Biden's strongest supporters are in favor of sending anyone to the camps for not taking the shots, or even for merely criticizing the Great Potato's pandemic "strategy."

Not merely criticizing them, or excluding them from the workplace or restaurants or schools. Actually in favor of harnessing government authority and sending them-- in other words, US-- to literal camps.

That's approx. HALF of a VERY Small Number...I'm NOT concerned as those are the truly Delusional Kool-Aid Drinking Leftists, so not surprising at all. Regardless, if that's what they think and they want to go all in, then let them try...

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
The Salt Lake City Tribune is a leftist trash rag.

What we (Utah) should be doing is mobilizing the guard to expel this infestation of parasites that occupy a large portion of Salt Lake and Summit counties. Some of the most awful, arrogant, intolerable democrats that I have ever met live in this state.

SL county is becoming full of California transplants and it's not surprising that crime is going up.

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Originally posted by Ackks:

SL county is becoming full of California transplants and it's not surprising that crime is going up.

Same here in Summit county. My wife, who follows a lot of local news through facebook, tells me weekly about the crap going on around here that 10-15 years ago I never would've imagined. I never thought I would say this, but I'm very much looking forward to moving out of Park City.

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Originally posted by wcb6092:
“President Biden’s strongest supporters are most likely to endorse the harshest punishments against those who won’t get the COVID-19 vaccine. Among voters who have a Very Favorable impression of Biden, 51% are in favor of government putting the unvaccinated in “designated facilities,” and 54% favor imposing fines or prison sentences on vaccine critics,” said the pollster.

To put that in context, with Biden polling around 33% favorable, the rather tiny group of mentally ill morons that have a "Very Favorable impression of Biden" might be rabid, but their numbers make them all but irrelevant. If the two sides to this issue ever did square off against each other, this particular group would be eliminated from the planet before lunch time rolled around. But the story does make for good clickbait.

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Originally posted by ersatzknarf:
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-p...urts-say-no-n1549942

Now ask yourself the following question. Why? If this gentleman is projected to have a <10% chance of recovery, why not use whatever treatment routine the family and their doctor(s) opt to pursue? What's the downside? The only thing I could come up with is what if the modified Ivermectin treatment routine actually worked? That would discredit the 'experts' and the medical profession as a whole, and put billions of dollars of big pharma revenue at risk. What is crystal clear though, the decisions being made by government and the courts have nothing to do with public health.

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Originally posted by bigdeal:

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Originally posted by ersatzknarf:
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-p...urts-say-no-n1549942

Now ask yourself the following question. Why? If this gentleman is projected to have a <10% chance of recovery, why not use whatever treatment routine the family and their doctor(s) opt to pursue? What's the downside? The only thing I could come up with is what if the modified Ivermectin treatment routine actually worked? That would discredit the 'experts' and the medical profession as a whole, and put billions of dollars of big pharma revenue at risk. What is crystal clear though, the decisions being made by government and the courts have nothing to do with public health.

Perfectly stated. That is absolutely absurd. No way they are going to let the chance of Ivermectin working. So now just wait for him to die. Sad. The second I found out my wife got COVID, I followed the FLCCC COVID battle plan, except I couldn’t find Ivermectin anywhere local, and I added NAC. I know it helped me get over it.

Why doesn’t a family have any say in the care of a loved one? More importantly, why would the Mayo Clinic allow people to die rather than try ivermectin? What’s stopping them?

Yep… Once admitted to a hospital a “patient” becomes an inmate, with no rights.

What’s the worst that could happen? From the perspective of the hospital it’s that it just might work

I just found this thread and haven’t read the previous +1000 pages, so maybe what I am about to say has already been covered. It is ironic to me that the left acts like they do not understand anyone who questions the official government position on Covid. I guess they forget that it was Biden and Harris who publicly stated at the beginning that they would never take a vaccine that had been hurriedly approved during the Trump administration. It was Fauci who originally said masks do not work and do not buy them. It was also Fauci who so strongly insisted at the beginning (and still does apparently) that the virus evolved in nature. Funny how in the whole wide world, the virus just happened to evolve in Wuhan, China, where there also coincidentally is a lab, partially funded by the US through Fauci’s agency, that is experimenting on Covid viruses. The recently released emails to and from Fauci show that Fauci was advised early on the virus probably originated in the Wuhan lab. The emails also clearly show that there was indeed gain of function research going on in that lab. Yet Fauci continues to lie and insist this is not so. The emails also show that people within his agency were concerned that if the truth was told, it might effect the “harmony” between the US and China. (Of course it might also affect Fauci’s career). And the government wonders why so many people do not trust the government agencies and politicians.

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I just found this thread and haven’t read the previous +1000 pages, so maybe what I am about to say has already been covered.

Yep… welcome to the thread. It’s a combination of news, commentary, and personal stories.
Please come often and post more.

^^^Just found this thread?? Dude, it's been on page one in the Lounge for nearly two years...

^^^ My thought....but with only 97 posts, it's understandable.

Here is one way to get Ivermectin:

https://www.investorvillage.co...d=22338115&mn=241768