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Can this mother fucker just shut the hell up.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politi...nate-covid-rcna60463

Fauci: 'Extreme' ideological divide led to disproportionate Covid deaths
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ZOË RICHARDS AND REBECCA SHABAD
December 7, 2022, 10:52 AM
Fauci says US political divide led to more deaths during COVIDScroll back up to restore default view.
Anthony Fauci, the federal government's top infectious disease expert and a chief proponent of Covid vaccines, sharply criticized the "extreme" ideological divide that he said has led to a disproportionate amount of coronavirus deaths among Republicans compared to Democrats.

In an interview with NBC News' Lester Holt scheduled to air Wednesday night, Fauci said he thought political viewpoints had a measurable effect on the number of people who could have been saved by the coronavirus vaccine.

"I mean, differences in ideology are healthy. It’s part of our democracy, part of what makes our country great. But when they get so extreme that it prevents you from doing something that’s life saving, that is really awful," he said.

Watch the full interview on “NBC Nightly News with Lester Holt” tonight at 6:30 p.m. ET/5:30 p.m. CT.

Several studies have found that Covid deaths are unevenly distributed among Republicans and Democrats. One study, published in September by the National Bureau of Economic Research, found that so-called excess death rates, or deaths elevated beyond what is expected based on historical trends, were 76% higher in Florida and Ohio among Republicans than Democrats from March 2020 to December 2021.


“The degree of divisiveness in this country right now has really led to such a polarization that it has interfered with an adequate science-based public health response,” Fauci, who was a member of former President Donald Trump's Covid task force, told NBC News.

“I mean, it’s just extraordinary that you have under-vaccination in red states, and good levels of vaccination in blue states, which gets translated into a disproportionate amount of suffering and death among Republicans compared to Democrats,” he added. “That’s completely crazy.”


In a clip released Wednesday morning, Fauci was asked if he regretted how he handled congressional hearings in which he was personally attacked — which included by Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., who frequently criticized Fauci's handling of the pandemic.

"I think 99.9% of the time, I have been my usual self, which is very calm and measured," Fauci said. "The only time I really got upset was when Senator Paul, totally inappropriately, on national TV, that was following that hearing, accused me of being responsible for the death of 5 million people. Now with all due respect, I’m not going to take that from anybody, including a senator. ... When you start off by, you know, being accusatory based on no evidence whatsoever, and making a slanderous comment, that that has to go answered, you can’t let that go unanswered."

Fauci announced in August that, at the end of the year, he would leave his post at the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, which he has directed since 1984, and step down as President Joe Biden’s chief medical adviser.


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He's right - there is an ideological divide that lead to severe health and economic consequences.

TOP of that list is the ideology of pursuing and funding gain of function research for dubious purposes in a tyrannical region with sketchy scientific practices governed by a tyrannical government that seeks to end us.

Humanity should regret Fauci was even born.




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Doctor: “Are you current with all of your vaccinations?”

Patient: “Absolutely, Doc.”

Doctor: “Does that include the Covid Series and Boosters?”

Patient: “No, Doc - ‘Cause those aren’t vaccinations.”



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Originally posted by Tuckerrnr1:
Can this mother fucker just shut the hell up.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politi...nate-covid-rcna60463

Fauci: 'Extreme' ideological divide led to disproportionate Covid deaths


No stats quoted, so I checked: https://www.statista.com/stati...h-rates-us-by-state/

Blue state at no 2 highest rate (AZ), MI and NJ make top 10. FL and NY are 14 and 15.
There is very little correlation to politics.


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There is very little correlation to politics.

Not only that, but I think those stats are cumulative. So they probably include both before the "vaccine" and after. I'd like to see them broken down by year. I'd be willing to bet it's increasing in higher vaxxed states and decreasing in lower vaxxed states.



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There is also the comorbidity factor in how states rank. Older people are vastly more likely to die from C19. Younger and healthier people have a virtually zero fatality rate.

So, it would make sense that retirement areas have high fatality rates while young active areas have low rates. Some areas have very high obesity rates even in younger age groups.

The data is clear that the jabs provide very short term protections at best, with true negative effectiveness after a few months. Trying to make it about politics is an attempt to deflect the argument away from facts.
 
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It’s stunning how the entire world is only being told one side of the narrative by the mainstream media. But there are a few 'happy warriors', like Steve Kirsch, trying to change that:

Why can't we talk about it?
How are we supposed to resolve our differences if every vaccine advocate in the world refuses to have a civil discussion about it?

https://stevekirsch.substack.c...ant-we-talk-about-it



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
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It’s really quite simple. Money. These assholes are making obscene amounts of money. Our tax dollars paid for the R&D. Our tax dollars paid for all the free “vaccines”. If there’s a light at the end of the tunnel, it’s the extremely low uptake (around 11%) for the new, improved, supersafeandeffectivedonchaknow omicron variant concoction- even among the faithful, Fauci worshipping dolts.

Kirsch’s question about liability freedom for the snake oil peddlers tells you everything you need to know about the safety of this gobbledygook.




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Dyson’s Zone air-purifying headphones start at $949




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Originally posted by chellim1:
It’s stunning how the entire world is only being told one side of the narrative by the mainstream media. But there are a few 'happy warriors', like Steve Kirsch, trying to change that:

Why can't we talk about it?
How are we supposed to resolve our differences if every vaccine advocate in the world refuses to have a civil discussion about it?



A Ph.D. biologist (Bret Weinstein) on his podcast was debating an ignorant journalist who had called Bret a source of bad information on the topic. TDS and confirmation bias aside, this journalist had consciously decided to consider whatever Bret said to be bad information, and thus disregard anyone who said similar things.

So this journalist assumed his other sources such as Fauci, CDC, AMA, etc must be correct.

The journalist thus provided zero objectivity to his audience. He intentionally shut down his own curiosity and skepticism. He is not interested in hearing anything contrary.

The mainstream media are blinded by politics and their own ignorance. I blame the left's politicizing of the issue from the beginning as why the whole world went off the rails.
 
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I hope people buy the dyson filter. That will make it much easier to identify the truly galactically stupid sheep from the nominally stupid sheep.




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I hope people buy the dyson filter. That will make it much easier to identify the truly galactically stupid sheep from the nominally stupid sheep.


https://gizmodo.com/dyson-air-...lease-dat-1849831922

Looks like they’re also headphones… but not quite proof positive against getting the coof. From the link-
“However, as Dyson has pointed out before, the Zone headphones don’t create a perfect seal and are not a solution for minimizing the risk of Covid-19 exposure.”




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So the Dyson costs nearly a grand and does not protect against Covid?
For that price, I hope it can at least filter out farts! Roll Eyes


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So the Dyson costs nearly a grand and does not protect against Covid?
For that price, I hope it can at least filter out farts! Roll Eyes


I'll take that as a confession that you dealt it.
 
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Another sad "sudden death". Being this happened in Canada, I can't resist the temptation to put 2 and 2 together. When are people gonna wake the f--- up???
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https://www.thegatewaypundit.c...myocarditis-due-flu/

6-Year-Old Canadian Kid Child Suddenly Dead After Suffering “Massive Stroke” – Doctor Diagnosed her with “Myocarditis due to the Flu”
By Jim Hoft

A six-year-old girl who was a member of the Richmond Raven U7 girls hockey team from Richmond, British Columbia, died suddenly last month after suffering from a massive stroke.

On November 26, Danielle Mei Cabana, who had been taken to BC Children’s Hospital for treatment of flu symptoms, passed away unexpectedly, according to Richmond News.
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According to reports, though not confirmed, the young kid was vaccinated. One Facebook user commented, “I have a friend who is part of Dani’s extended family. She confirmed that the child was [vaccinated] and admitted to the hospital with [myocarditis]. Doctors literally drilled a hole into her heart to increase its blood flow, only to be met with rapid [clotting], which took the child.”
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What a total tragedy for this beautiful little angel. Frown Frown I have no further comment...it wouldn't be pretty.



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Very sad. And especially if the motivations behind pushing the shot are political or greed or tyrannical in nature.

How many more deaths, especially in children, are necessary before the woke actually wake up and realize reality? And then not only realize it, but hold their larger government, corporate, media, medical communities at large that are complicit in this crime against humanity to account?

We need to hold them to account lest this happen again.




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Very sad. And especially if the motivations behind pushing the shot are political or greed or tyrannical in nature.

How many more deaths, especially in children, are necessary before the woke actually wake up and realize reality? And then not only realize it, but hold their larger government, corporate, media, medical communities at large that are complicit in this crime against humanity to account?

We need to hold them to account lest this happen again.


The depths of denial that they took something harmful that they thought a panacea are rarely seen, especially when they looked down upon and condemned the anti vaxxers.

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6-Year-Old Canadian Kid Child Suddenly Dead After Suffering “Massive Stroke” – Doctor Diagnosed her with “Myocarditis due to the Flu”


Myocarditis due to the flu, huh? Yeah, that sounds plausible.
 
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What’s truly sickens me is these parents KNOW damn well what killed their child. They KNOW it but won’t say a single thing about it. A 6 year old with myocarditis and blood clots?

They murdered their own child.




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They murdered their own child.
BOOM!!!! Right there!!!!



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"Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil... Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; for they have rejected the law of the Lord Almighty and spurned the word of the Holy One of Israel." - Isaiah 5:20,24
 
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