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| Lawyers, Guns and Money  |
My thoughts exactly. At least ACB is starting to show some backbone? "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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My daughter and grandchildren have Medicaid, and they haven't been forced to get vaccinated (yet). Also, the SC said OSHA can't require it, they did not say a private company can't require it. | |||
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| Get my pies outta the oven!  |
Just saw something about Biden is already telling states to impose their own mandates and ignore the SC ruling today. Fucking guy is a real piece of work…now he’s all about states rights?  | |||
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It’s past precedent, in 1970 or so the Nixon administration wanted to set a nationwide speed limit of 55mph, some states refused, the Supreme Court held if the state took Federal funds for Highway safety, they had to set the 55 speed limit. Same rationale is if a health care facility takes Federal Money they can mandate a jab based on the acceptance of the funds. | |||
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Be prepared for loud noise and recoil |
 “Crisis is the rallying cry of the tyrant.” – James Madison "Keep your fears to yourself, but share your courage with others." - Robert Louis Stevenson | |||
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Nullus Anxietas |
Didn't do diddly for mine. Leastwise, not as far as we could tell. But they weren't able to schedule her until she was at the very end of the 10-day window. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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| Lawyers, Guns and Money |
These cases are not about the efficacy or importance of COVID–19 vaccines. They are only about whether CMS has the statutory authority to force healthcare workers, by coercing their employers, to undergo a medical procedure they do not want and cannot undo. Because the Government has not made a strong showing that Congress gave CMS that broad authority, I would deny the stays pending appeal. I respectfully dissent. —Clarence Thomas. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Because making a rule on a priviledge is the exact same thing as violating a persons right to be secure in their person. Complete apples and oranges comparison. | |||
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| Free radical scavenger  |
You've opened a can of thought worms.  I checked briefly and am not sure if North Carolina took the Medicaid expansion. Either way, the implications of this SCOTUS ruling on Obamacare aren't clear.The State of Washington did of course go for the Medicaid expansion, and all of those insurance companies on the "exchange" which are supposed to be competing for my business have dwindled down to one privately owned insurance company. | |||
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These companies no longer have a reason to inflict these mandates on their workers given the current data confirming vaccines do not prevent the spread of Covid. They also have no legal justification anymore, so maybe someone should remind them that an employee who ends up having an adverse reaction to these 'experimental' drugs just might sue the hell out of them. My bet, that approach should turn all but the most spectacularly moronic away from this BS. ----------------------------- Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter | |||
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paradox in a box |
My company has a mandate and is enforcing it. A coworker is being fired on the 21st. We are a pharma company so not sure if that counts under healthcare. These go to eleven. | |||
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So now its not the Government being tyrannical - its both private and publicly traded companies that are. Here is a question. If a company can require you to take an experimental poke for C19, what stops them from demanding all your vaccination records and mandating dozens of other vaccinations? Same thing for restaurants and entertainment venues? | |||
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| Lawyers, Guns and Money |
Only non-compliance and market forces. Don’t participate. Frequent the businesses that are pro-freedom. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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It's a requirement as a condition or your employment or access to the venues. They can't actually require you to do anything. At the same time, I think it's complete BS for them to put us in a position of choosing what we want to give up. Year V | |||
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It's media and Democrats...they can't let the power go. Private business would be foolish to take on the expense and liability of permanently battling the equivalent of the common cold. The hysteria will slowly abate. Some virtue signaling entities will proceed with the worker vaccine silliness, but they will regret the decision. The country will turn the corner...the proof is in Saggy Diaper's poll numbers. | |||
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Drill Here, Drill Now |
Does anybody have an actual link to SCOTUS majority and minority opinions? I've come up empty despite googling, reading a dozen articles, checking SCOTUS site, checking Findlaw site. I'd really like to read the healthcare opinions in their own words and not filtered by some dumbass reporter. Ego is the anesthesia that deadens the pain of stupidity DISCLAIMER: These are the author's own personal views and do not represent the views of the author's employer. | |||
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| Lawyers, Guns and Money |
https://www.supremecourt.gov/o...1pdf/21a240_d18e.pdf Read them for yourself. IMO, Clarence Thomas makes the most sense. Unfortunately, he was one vote short of a majority. If only Kavanaugh ... "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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The SC decision is only regarding the osha mandate, correct; snd healthcare industry. Decision is still pending on fed contractor mandate? "Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it." L.Tolstoy "A government is just a body of people, usually, notably, ungoverned." Shepherd Book | |||
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| A day late, and a dollar short  |
My wife got the infusion 2 1/2 days after testing positive, the effects were nothing short of amazing. The sooner one gets it the better, is what we were told. ____________________________ NRA Life Member, Annual Member GOA, MGO Annual Member | |||
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| Get my pies outta the oven! |
Question for all those that had Covid and lost your sense of taste and smell - how long until that returned? I'm pretty certain I had a bout of omicron on New Year's Day, was fine after a few days but I lost my sense of taste and smell on Jan 4th, 4 days after I first had it and it's not come back yet. I've had colds where this happened and it was a few days long but now at 10+ days I'm starting to get a little concerned.  | |||
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