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Another example of CNN reporting the truth of the Hamas attack

At the link is Anderson Cooper showing videos recorded during the attack on the music festival.

Shows how people stuffed into a small bomb shelter to hide, and then were killed by grenades.

Video at:

https://www.cnn.com/videos/wor...er-dnt-ac360-vpx.cnn
 
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Here's the union support.

Nor a single peep from the rest of the union factions, so they must support it 100%. Not even a single union member of ANY union has come out to criticize this even.



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I cannot wait for the day of reckoning when the assholes from around the world are held accountable for supporting YET ANOTHER attempt at striking the Jewish faith from this world. I believe the Democrats need to rid themselves of that portion of the voter base whose views align with ideology that killed more than 6 million Jews not even a century ago.


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I I believe the Democrats need to rid themselves of that portion of the voter base whose views align with ideology that killed more than 6 million Jews not even a century ago.


You mean 90% of their voter base?


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I cannot wait for the day of reckoning when the assholes from around the world are held accountable for supporting YET ANOTHER attempt at striking the Jewish faith from this world. I believe the Democrats need to rid themselves of that portion of the voter base whose views align with ideology that killed more than 6 million Jews not even a century ago.


You think this is only present on the side of democrat voters? Wake up, folks. This hatred for Jews spreads far and wide. I know more than a few rabid anti-semites who despise Joe Biden and the democrats and vote republican. The level of hatred from these people confounds me, and I've had more than once discussed the issues with them, but there simply is no changing their minds.


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Is there an author you would trust to have an unbiased telling of the history of the Middle East, both ancient and modern histories?





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^^^ watching…
 
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Try The Middle East by Bernard Lewis.


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Overnight: IDF says it killed senior Hamas leader who plotted massacre and Hamas air force chief

2 hour(s) ago

The Israeli Air Force says it killed a senior commander in Hamas' commando forces, one who planned the terror attacks that massacred 1,300 Israelis on Oct. 7.

The IAF said a drone strike killed Ali Qadhi, a company commander in the Najaba force of Hamas, after obtaining intelligence from the Shin Bet security agency.

According to the Israeli military, Qadhi was arrested by Israel in 2005 for the kidnapping and murder of Israeli citizens and had been released to the Gaza Strip as part of a prisoner swap in 2011.

"Ali Qadi led the inhumane, barbaric October 7 massacre of civilians in Israel," Israel Defense Forces said. "We just eliminated him. All Hamas terrorists will meet the same fate."

The military also said it killed Abu Merad, who was the head of Hamas' air forces.

The Palestinian health ministry reports that 2,125 Palestinians have been killed and another 8,714 were wounded in Israeli airstrikes on the Gaza Strip since war broke out on Oct. 7.

The Israeli military has said the bodies of about 1,500 Hamas terrorists were found in Israeli territory after Hamas launched its surprise terror attack on Israel, killing as many as 1,300 Israelis.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1713124700795117712



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Is there an author you would trust to have an unbiased telling of the history of the Middle East, both ancient and modern histories?

Unbiased? I suppose not, Haviv Rettig Gur is an Israeli Jew and IDF veteran, but the link ggile provided on page 29 of this thread of the podcast with Gur and Jack Carr is probably the most informative podcast I’ve ever heard. Lots of history provided, especially in the first 23 minutes.

Jack Carr, Danger Close with Haviv Rettig Gur


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I'm sure the chatter was out there a few weeks/months ago, unfortunately no one likely knew to what extent Hamas intended to infiltrate and attack. But now that Hamas struck and is known worldwide as the aggressor, it certainly frees up Israel to act accordingly and with justification on the world stage.

As much as I am generally skeptical of hidden agendas that are supposedly behind much of what makes the news, this seems more and more likely to me. I don’t have the deep interest or patience to follow every development in the war, but the Israelis are evidently having successes that were unlikely to have been achieved without pretty good intelligence about the enemy. True surprise attacks of the scale of this assault usually result in a period of, “Oh, chit! What do we do?” readjustment, and unless I’m reading things entirely wrong, that didn’t happen this time.

I will be interested to learn more in the future.

As for antisemitism in general the specific reasons are very complex, but they all boil down to the fact that there are strong evolutionary pressures for human beings to fear and then hate “others,” whether the differences are physical characteristics, belief systems, cultural, tribal affiliations, or just because they live on the other side of the river. Some of that gets tamped down from time to time in certain societies, but the tendency is always there because it’s an ingrained part of human nature, and of course it makes sense from a primitive evolutionary standpoint. When it becomes acceptable to express those fears and biases, out they come.




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US author blasts students blaming Israel for Hamas' deadly attack

“An American author who penned a book on 'wokeism poisoning young brains' has lashed out at students gathering to praise the Hamas terrorists.

Bethany Mandel, who co-wrote Stolen Youth: How Radicals Are Erasing Innocence and Indoctrinating a Generation, blasted student groups at Ivy league schools seen supporting the terrorist group's actions.

Scores of students at the University of Washington, Harvard and Georgetown University have rallied this week, blaming Israel for Hamas' deadly attack.
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'They don't care about Jewish lives, and the fact that this is happening on our elite campuses, the fact that these are supposedly the people who are the most educated in America, really speaks volumes to what we call "education in America".'  …”

DailyMail article:
https://mol.im/a/12630421



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Is there an author you would trust to have an unbiased telling of the history of the Middle East, both ancient and modern histories?


You’re going to find yourself with literally thousands of books at your disposal, even if your reading list starts at the year 1948.

Six Days of War: June 1967 and the Making of the Modern Middle East by Michael B. Oren is very detailed, but even with a myriad of facts and details, there is so much nuance to the conflict between the Israelis and the Arabs, it’s hard to take it all in.

One thing I’ll never forget though is this statement I heard uttered in 2008. My wife and I attended a dinner with Dr. Yossi Olmert (brother of Ehud Olmert), and he said this as simply as someone would comment on the weather:

“The rule and not the exception is this- if Hamas and Hezbollah would lay down their arms, the fighting would cease immediately. If the Jewish people lay down their arms we will cease to exist.”

While I don’t think he coined the phrase, I hadn’t ever heard it put to voice as he did.




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I have always wondered why these people have been persecuted for thousands of years, and all over this globe.

The protests at our colleges are not very big judging from the video, but I'm not happy they are happening here. The protests going on in Europe are frightening.

Ben Shapiro explains if you are supporting this by showing up at a protest you are either ignorant or evil. He goes on to say most are ignorant. I don't think I'd be that charitable. I think that there is a dark malevolence associated with what is going on in the rest of the world. Jordan Peterson said, "The shadow of the human soul can stretch all the way down into hell."

Now this came from Twitter. Twitter is a cesspool of disinformation, but if this is true...

https://twitter.com/Natsecjeff.../1713149910177243376


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Destroy Gaza - every square inch. Then rebuild it as an ocean front beach resort with lots of free parking.

The comments from Talib don’t surprise me in the least. After all, we all know who and what she is.

The skies here have been moderately quiet of A10’s. Oh that’s right…they’re over in the ME getting ready for sone live fire training. And the F16’s have been a bit frisky the past few days.

I think that comment from Reacher is entirely appropriate and should be the battle cry.
 
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Is there an author you would trust to have an unbiased telling of the history of the Middle East, both ancient and modern histories?


A very simplified explanation by Dennis Prager.

https://www.prageru.com/video/...middle-east-conflict




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One thing I’ll never forget though is this statement I heard uttered in 2008. My wife and I attended a dinner with Dr. Yossi Olmert (brother of Ehud Olmert), and he said this as simply as someone would comment on the weather:

“The rule and not the exception is this- if Hamas and Hezbollah would lay down their arms, the fighting would cease immediately. If the Jewish people lay down their arms we will cease to exist.”

While I don’t think he coined the phrase, I hadn’t ever heard it put to voice as he did.

I heard a similar opinion expressed once, quite a while back. There had been some incident that caused the Israelis to strike at the PLO. The PLO and their sympathizers responded by calling the Israelis murderers and butchers and warmongers. Somebody's response to that went like this:
"If the Palestinians really wanted peace, there would be peace. If the Israelis really wanted war, there would be no more Palestinians."
 
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