https://www.thefp.com/p/how-israel-got-ambushed

senior Hamas official Ali Baraka, in an interview on an Arabic-language TV station, boasted that the terrorist organization had been planning the attack for two years.

“The zero hour was kept completely secret. . . . Hamas leaders knew it. The number of people who knew about the attack and its timing could be counted on one hand.”

The fact that Hamas kept this secret is arguably Israel’s most serious failure. Israeli intelligence agencies—the Mossad, the Shin Bet, and the Military Intelligence Directorate (Aman)—are seen as world-beating institutions. Only a few years ago, they located and stole Iran’s nuclear archives right from under the noses of the ayatollahs. Israel invests billions in tracking every movement of every presumed terrorist in Gaza. But somehow they missed this.

Hamas likely avoided using any electronic devices to communicate plans of their attack.

they kept the plan highly compartmentalized within Hamas ranks, with gunmen told only a small piece of the puzzle, to prevent a leak.

Hamas used the last few weeks to hold protests along the border to normalize the presence of people in a usually restricted area. Attacking on Saturday morning during a holiday gave them another advantage. At 6:30 a.m., soldiers are just waking up and switching shifts. Meanwhile, rocket fire from the sky pushed Israeli soldiers at their bases into protective spaces, meaning they were unable to stand outside and watch for invaders. And when Hamas used drones to drop bombs on Israel’s communications towers, the IDF lost its chain of command.

Hamas leader Baraka bragged on TV, “We made them think that Hamas was busy governing Gaza and that it wanted to focus on the 2.5 million Palestinians (in Gaza) and has abandoned the resistance altogether. All the while. . . Hamas was preparing for this big attack.

“The Israelis are known to love life,” he continued. “We, on the other hand, sacrifice ourselves. We consider our dead to be martyrs. The thing any Palestinian desires the most is to be martyred for the sake of Allah, defending his land.”

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Sanders is a Jew, raised in a Brooklyn Jewish family, his father a Polish-Jewish immigrant. They had family members who were killed in the Holocaust. And the scumbag essentially sympathizes with Hamas over Israel.

New York jews are Democrats first, ethnic jews second. Leftism is a religion.

Came across this YouTube channel this morning which seems to give a fairly thorough analysis of what is currently going on.

As with any media don’t take it as gospel…

https://youtu.be/jVpf4S3s1Fc?si=oO3z26VzKLpGJk8r

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New York jews are Democrats first, ethnic jews second. Leftism is a religion.

I've recently come to think of it more as a cult than a religion.

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Sanders is a Jew, raised in a Brooklyn Jewish family, his father a Polish-Jewish immigrant. They had family members who were killed in the Holocaust. And the scumbag essentially sympathizes with Hamas over Israel.

New York jews are Democrats first, ethnic jews second. Leftism is a religion.

Leftism is the golden calf for most of the Jews in the US sadly. Pray that they seek God.

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Came across this YouTube channel this morning which seems to give a fairly thorough analysis of what is currently going on.

As with any media don’t take it as gospel…

https://youtu.be/jVpf4S3s1Fc?si=oO3z26VzKLpGJk8r

Those Raptor News presentations are very interesting. Like you, I'm taking them with a grain of salt.

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"The Israeli intelligence aircraft conducted reconnaissance over Gaza for 3 hours. As a result of the reconnaissance, the locations of highly important depots for underground shelters were identified. In this situation, the Israeli Navy directly targeted the area where the depots were located. Additionally, the position of the most important Hamas commander was determined. Israeli fighter jets initiated a major aerial operation directly. Furthermore, tension has significantly increased in northern Israel. There is constant movement in the area where the border posts are located. Unmanned aerial vehicles continue to successfully neutralize their targets in the region."

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New York jews are Democrats first, ethnic jews second. Leftism is a religion.

Not all of us. I was born in Brooklyn and lived in the NYC area for my first 17 years.

100% accurate or not, the Raptor News video sure appeared to have lots of credible information

Israel war: Egypt gave warning about Hamas attack, McCaul says

https://www.washingtonexaminer...-hamas-attack-mccaul

Egypt warned Israel about an attack from Hamas three days before the weekend assault, House Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman Michael McCaul (R-TX) said on Wednesday.

“We know that Egypt has warned the Israelis three days prior that an event like this could happen,” McCaul told reporters after a closed-door intelligence briefing focused on the war, according to the Guardian. “I don’t want to get too much into classified [details], but a warning was given. I think the question was at what level.”

McCaul's statements appear to contradict Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's repeated claims that he was not told of Hamas's plans before the attack, prompting further questions over who knew what and when.

An Egyptian intelligence official said his country had warned Israel that “something big” could happen, but both U.S. and Israeli officials have denied that any such warning occurred.

“We have warned them an explosion of the situation is coming, and very soon, and it would be big. But they underestimated such warnings,” the official from Egypt, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, told the Associated Press.

More at link

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“We know that Egypt has warned the Israelis three days prior that an event like this could happen...”

If true, and I don't doubt it is, my guess is that the scale was likely underestimated.

But, if you're Israel and you take proactive actions, then you're the heavy. The press eviscerates you and you are the big mean kid on the block. If you don't and what happened occurs, you retaliate, and over the course of days/weeks still look like the mean kid on the block.

Lose, lose, situation for Israel.

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Israel war: Egypt gave warning about Hamas attack, McCaul says

https://www.washingtonexaminer...-hamas-attack-mccaul

Egypt warned Israel about an attack from Hamas three days before the weekend assault, House Foreign Affairs Committee Chairman Michael McCaul (R-TX) said on Wednesday.

“We know that Egypt has warned the Israelis three days prior that an event like this could happen,” McCaul told reporters after a closed-door intelligence briefing focused on the war, according to the Guardian. “I don’t want to get too much into classified [details], but a warning was given. I think the question was at what level.”

McCaul's statements appear to contradict Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's repeated claims that he was not told of Hamas's plans before the attack, prompting further questions over who knew what and when.

An Egyptian intelligence official said his country had warned Israel that “something big” could happen, but both U.S. and Israeli officials have denied that any such warning occurred.

“We have warned them an explosion of the situation is coming, and very soon, and it would be big. But they underestimated such warnings,” the official from Egypt, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, told the Associated Press.

More at link

Not sure what to make of articles like this. A generic warning that “something big” might happen soon is not actionable. Also, these kinds of warnings are very common and come often. Unless paired with details, a timeline or specific target sets, what are authorities supposed to do? It will matter at what level the message was sent: if it’s deputy department heads or senior political leadership.

The biggest thing authorities could have done to minimize impacts of this attack would be allowing the general population to be armed. For preventing that, they deserve repudiation. Sounds like they’re on track to somewhat change that issue.

I'm very skeptical of these reports that "Egypt warned Israel!" and "Netanyahu did nothing!"

The Israeli Left (and there seems to be a whole lot of them) hate Netanyahu like the Left hates Trump here and I think this is their attempt to get rid of him.

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I'm very skeptical of these reports that "Egypt warned Israel!" and "Netanyahu did nothing!"

The Israeli Left (and there seems to be a whole lot of them) hate Netanyahu like the Left hates Trump here and I think this is their attempt to get rid of him.

Agreed. Never let a crisis go to waste, and all that.

Took him long enough and only after a lot of pressure from his own party:

US, Qatar Agree To Stop Iran From Accessing $6 Billion Fund After Bipartisan Pressure On Biden

Israel's Health Minister issued a directive to the hospitals to refuse treatment of Hamas terrorists.

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"In these difficult times, the health system should focus fully on the treatment of the victims of the criminal massacre, the IDF soldiers and preparedness for the next," added the health minister. "The task of securing and treating the cursed and despicable terrorists within the public health system significantly harms these efforts and therefore, under my guidance, the public health system will not treat them."

I would think a bullet in the head would be immediate treatment for the terrorists.

https://m.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-767787

Today I received one of those messages that you don't want to get. The wife of my dad's closest friend in HS passed away. I knew them well, they were an amazing couple.

She was an amazing person, intelligent, funny, classy but also very down to earth. She was also a 5 star chef level cook, apparently learned from her mother. Her baklava would stop time.

I learned only about 10 years ago that she was from Lebanon and had come here as a little girl back in the early 50's. I remember clearly when she told me how beautiful the country was when she was young and what an amazing city Beirut once was. I remember her pausing and taking a breath as her eyes welled with tears before she told me how much it hurt her heart to see the death and destruction that had taken over her homeland. Given that her family is Catholic I'll guess that had something to do with them coming here.

She passed late last week. The only positive is that I'm glad she didn't have to see what started this week. Knowing how she was, I can only imagine how all of this would have impacted her.

This goes back a long way and has a wide wake of pain behind it.

https://www.breitbart.com/midd...-on-friday-the-13th/

Hamas has called on Muslims worldwide to stage a “Day of Jihad,” or holy war, on Friday, October 13th


The Middle East Media Research Institute (MEMRI) reported Hamas as saying:

"We declare next Friday, ‘The Friday of the Al-Aqsa Flood,’ as a day of general mobilization in our Arab and Islamic world and among the free people of the world. It is a day to rally support, offer aid, and participate actively. It is a day to expose the crimes of the occupation, isolate it, and foil all its aggressive schemes. It is a day to demonstrate our love for Palestine, Jerusalem, and Al-Aqsa. It is a day for sacrifice, heroism, and dedication, and to earn the honor of defending the first Qibla of Muslims, the third holiest mosque, and the ascension of the trusted Messenger.

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We call upon the free people of the world to mobilize in solidarity with our Palestinian people and in support of their just cause and legitimate rights to freedom, independence, return, and self-determination."

Hamas also called on Palestinians within the West Bank (known to Israelis as Judea and Samaria) to rise up against Israeli soldiers, and called on Arab citizens of Israel (“Our people within the occupied territories of 1948”) to revolt against the state.

Israel Bombs Damascus & Aleppo Airports Before Iran's Foreign Minister Due To Arrive

https://www.zerohedge.com/geop...-minister-due-arrive

Iranian state sources say foreign minister Hossein Amirabdollahian's plane has landed in Baghdad. It's unclear whether he will continue on his trip to visit Syria, which some reports say is scheduled for tomorrow.

State media said his trip is "in light of the current Palestinian events, the crimes committed against Gaza and their dangerous ramifications." At this moment, it appears the only functioning major airport in Syria is in Lattakia, or there would also be the possibility of the Iranians utilizing the Russian airbase. Syria also has military airports.

More at link

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Hamas has called on Muslims worldwide to stage a “Day of Jihad,” or holy war, on Friday, October 13th

I posted a similar article a few pages back. Some agencies were reporting it as a "protest" other are taking the words of Hamas more seriously.

My take on it is:
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