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Perhaps what is happening is the Gaza ministry is releasing fake daily numbers that vary too little because they do not have a clear understanding of the behavior of naturally occurring numbers

Or maybe they’re just fucking lying assholes.

Today, Biden officially endorsed Chuck Schumer call for Israel to get rid of Netanyahu and hold new elections to replace him. I don't think this has ever happened in the history of U.S. Israeli relations.

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Meanwhile, the Senate — at Schumer’s direction — is refusing to pass billions of dollars in military aid for Israel. And there are reports that the Biden administration is “slow-walking” deliveries of ammunition already promised to Israel.

This is happening because Netanyahu — like most Israelis — rejects Biden’s plan to impose a Palestinian state after the war, which would reward Hamas for terror. Israelis also want to win the war — not to wait, and allow Hamas to survive.

Biden is furious, and wants Netanyahu out of the way. So he, and Schumer, have sent a message to Israel: if you do not replace Netanyahu, you will not be receiving more money and more weapons. You will be on your own against terror.

https://www.breitbart.com/midd...-s-israel-relations/

Biden Attack on Netanyahu Causes Worst Crisis in History of U.S.-Israel Relations

https://www.breitbart.com/midd...-s-israel-relations/

President Joe Biden’s endorsement Friday of a call by Senate Majority Leader Chuck Schumer (D-NY) for Israel to oust Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and hold new elections marks the worst crisis in the history of U.S.-Israel relations.

Israel is currently fighting to defeat Hamas, which murdered 1,200 people in the October 7 terror attack. It is also under attack from Hezbollah in Lebanon, and has even faced missile attacks launched by Houthi rebels in Yemen.

All of these groups are funded and armed by Iran, which views the United States as its enemy. Instead of backing Israel fully, Biden is not only criticizing Israel in increasingly strident terms, but demanding it remove its democratic leader.

Biden is also slapping sanctions on Israelis who have not been convicted of any crime; this week, he also sanctioned two geographic areas under Israeli control in the West Bank. At the same time, he gave Iran a $10 billion sanctions waiver.

Meanwhile, the Senate — at Schumer’s direction — is refusing to pass billions of dollars in military aid for Israel. And there are reports that the Biden administration is “slow-walking” deliveries of ammunition already promised to Israel.

This is happening because Netanyahu — like most Israelis — rejects Biden’s plan to impose a Palestinian state after the war, which would reward Hamas for terror. Israelis also want to win the war — not to wait, and allow Hamas to survive.

Biden is furious, and wants Netanyahu out of the way. So he, and Schumer, have sent a message to Israel: if you do not replace Netanyahu, you will not be receiving more money and more weapons. You will be on your own against terror.

If Israel complies, and elects a new leader — should one be found who accepts Biden’s policies, which are rejected by the majority of Israelis — then Israel might receive aid and ammunition, but it would definitely fall short of its war goals. It would probably not be able to complete the defeat of Hamas in Rafah, and it would almost certainly be unable to secure northern Israel against Hezbollah. Israeli shipping through the Red Sea will remain impossible. Israel will lose the war.

This is a terrible dilemma, one that has no precedent in the history of U.S-Israel relations. Barack Obama triggered a crisis in 2015 by imposing the Iran nuclear deal on Israel, which Netanyahu opposed publicly because it allowed Iran to emerge as a nuclear power after a decade, and gave Iran money with which to fund terrorism. That was bad enough. What Biden is doing is far worse, involving active political interference in Israel in the midst of an existential conflict.

The message to Israel’s enemies is clear: they are winning, despite Israel’s success against Hamas in Gaza thus war. The Biden Administration is rewarding Islamic terror, as well as the Iranian regime, apparently blind to the consequences.

Biden, Schumer and the whole lot can suck balls.

This could just cause the Israelis to drop the gloves and finish it the ugly way. They don't need Biden's or Schumer's permission, meddling or funding. The Biden administration has been complicit in dragging this war on much longer than Israel needed to finish it.

Unintended consequences can be a real biter.

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This could just cause the Israelis to drop the gloves and finish it the ugly way. They don't need Biden's or Schumer's permission, meddling or funding. The Biden administration has been complicit in dragging this war on much longer than Israel needed to finish it.

Unintended consequences can be a real biter.

They could either raze entire neighborhoods or use precision munitions. If the US withholds smart bombs and defensive Iron Dome interceptors they sort of are painting Isreal in a corner.

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President Biden himself had earlier cited this figure, asserting that “too many, too many of the over 27,000 Palestinians killed in this conflict have been innocent civilians and children, including thousands of children.” The White House also explained that the president “was referring to publicly available data about the total number of casualties.”

Here’s the problem with this data: The numbers are not real. That much is obvious to anyone who understands how naturally occurring numbers work. The casualties are not overwhelmingly women and children, and the majority may be Hamas fighters.

Listen to the Palestinians, and the mothers. The numbers are fake, but I don't deny that there are likely many children that have been forced or brainwashed into being fighters.

Weren't these the same assholes complaining about other nations interfering in the U.S. election?

I'm not saying we shouldn't resupply Israel, we should and I'm sure the next President will, but
shouldn't Israel have been stockpiling weapons, ammo and supplies long before Oct 7th? They are only 6 months into a war.

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I'm not saying we shouldn't resupply Israel, we should and I'm sure the next President will, but
shouldn't Israel have been stockpiling weapons, ammo and supplies long before Oct 7th? They are only 6 months into a war.

They have both their own stockpile as well as the US ME stockpile.

They are all set, worse case is that they have to take unauthorized loans should the war extend outside of the current conflict. Add neighboring Arab aggressors then the need for resupply becomes more critical. Isreal if it chose to it could remove the Gaza Strip from existence this weekend and be ready for work Monday morning.

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Originally posted by Schmelby:
I'm not saying we shouldn't resupply Israel, we should and I'm sure the next President will, but
shouldn't Israel have been stockpiling weapons, ammo and supplies long before Oct 7th? They are only 6 months into a war.

They have both their own stockpile as well as the US ME stockpile.

They are all set, worse case is that they have to take unauthorized loans should the war extend outside of the current conflict. Add neighboring Arab aggressors then the need for resupply becomes more critical. Isreal if it chose to it could remove the Gaza Strip from existence this weekend and be ready for work Monday morning.

Seems it may be time for that if uncle stupid continues to aggravate, which is guaranteed that he will. With Northern Israel under attack by the Hezbollah it becomes more critical by the day.

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Seems it may be time for that if uncle stupid continues to aggravate, which is guaranteed that he will. With Northern Israel under attack by the Hezbollah it becomes more critical by the day.

A snake never forgets his spots...

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/386830

The Joe Biden of 1992 denounces the Bush administration at the time for pressuring the Shamir government regarding peace negotiations.


"Anything you say, can and will be used against you..."

Jeepers, man. Joe was an angry, shouting old man even back then.

Israeli forces raid Gaza City's al-Shifa hospital
going in for a second scoop, IDF has taken control of al-Shifa hospital in Gaza City in what it called an operation to "thwart terrorist activity".

It said troops killed 20 "terrorists", including a senior commander of Hamas's internal security force, and detained dozens of suspects during the raid.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world...placement=newsletter

Netanyahu To Biden: "There's No Way To Destroy Hamas Without Rafah Ground Op"

https://www.zerohedge.com/geop...hout-rafah-ground-op

Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has revealed more about his Monday phone call with President Joe Biden. He informed a closed meeting of the Knesset Foreign Affairs and Defense Committee that he made it clear to Biden that there's no way to eradicate Hamas without a ground operation in Rafah.

Biden had reiterated to Netanyahu that the US sees a Rafah invasion as a "mistake" given the presence of over one million internally displaced Palestinian civilians in the city amid an already soaring death toll.

"The Americans asked that we not do an operation in Rafah," Netanyahu told defense officials. "But there is no other choice. We need control over the Philadelphi Route," he continued in refence to the Egypt-Gaza border area.

More at link

https://twitter.com/POTUS/status/1769890646049853599

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I continued to affirm that Israel has a right to go after Hamas, a group of terrorists responsible for the worst massacre of the Jewish people since the Holocaust.

The lying disingenuous motherfucker.

I'm almost to the point I hope Israel breaks out the canned sunshine at Dimona and drops one on Rafah just to say "FUCK YOU" to Biden.

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"Anything you say, can and will be used against you..."

"In a speech he gave against the Bush administration, then-Senator Biden commented: "Why is there any incentive for the Arabs to make any compromise in the peace talks, if they know they need only wait for the United States to do their bargaining for them?"

"The absurd notion that publically vilifying Israel will somehow change its policy - who in the hell do we think we're dealing with?" Biden demanded."

Trudeau Government Cuts off Arms Sales to Israel

https://www.breitbart.com/poli...rms-sales-to-israel/

The Canadian government of Liberal Prime Minister Justin Trudeau announced Tuesday that it is ending arms sales — such as they are — to Israel, bowing to pressure from left-wing radicals as Israel fights against genocidal Palestinian terrorists.

According to Al Jazeera, Canada’s arms exports to Israel are minuscule, amounting to less than $90 million over the past nine years. “The vast majority of Canada’s military exports to Israel come in the form of parts and components.”

Israel’s foreign minister, Israel Katz, reacted angrily, according to the Times of Israel:

“I am sorry that the government of Canada is taking this step that undermines Israel’s right to self-defense in the face of Hamas murderers who carried out terrible crimes against humanity and against innocent Israelis, including the elderly, women and children,” he says in a statement.

“History will judge the current acts of Canada harshly,” he says.

Trudeau has adopted a posture toward Israel in the war against Hamas that has been inconsistent at best. Canada sided with Israel after opening arguments at the International Court of Justice at The Hague in a case brought by South Africa accusing Israel of “genocide.” But Canada also restored funding to the United Nations Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) after staff at the organization were accused of participating in the October 7 terror attacks against Israel.

Earlier this week, the Canadian parliament adopted a resolution calling for a two-state solution to the conflict, after left-wing politicians wanted an even stronger resolution, calling for the recognition of a Palestinian state.

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i don't often disagree with DP