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Biden is getting beat up at home by terrorist loving garbage. If it were “right wing extremists”, it would be all over the news, every minute, every day up to the election. But instead, the left is catering to this vermin, just as they did BLM and Antifa. I hope Israel proves the administration wrong at the ballot box; despite the intelligence failure by one of the worlds leading intelligence apparatus, Israel is predominately opposed to a two state solution.




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The U.S. government does not hesitate to orchestrate the overthrow of democratically elected governments that will not bend to their will. This is how the entire Ukraine war was escalated.


Report: Biden Trying to ‘Collapse’ Netanyahu Government, Mid-war

https://www.breitbart.com/poli...-government-mid-war/

U.S. President Joe Biden is reportedly attempting to force the “collapse” of the Israeli government of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in the middle of a war against Hamas terrorists in Gaza and a potential war against Hezbollah in Lebanon.

Biden has been increasingly hostile to Netanyahu in his public remarks, recently saying that Netanyahu is “hurting” Israel more than he is helping it through his conduct of the war. (Netanyahu fired back, saying that Biden was “wrong.”)

Now, New York Magazine reports that the Biden Administration is actively looking for ways to force Netanyahu’s right-wing coalition, which has been remarkably unified, to fall apart, which would bring about early elections. It reported (original emphasis):

One Israeli expert frequently consulted by American officials says, “I have been asked by a serious administration figure what it is that will force the Netanyahu coalition to collapse. They were interested in the mechanics, what can we demand which will collapse his coalition.”

In the event the new American position over Netanyahu remained unclear, Vice-President Kamala Harris left no doubts in a Friday interview with CBS News, which asked “Are the Israelis at risk of losing U.S. aid if this continues?” Harris replied: “I think it’s important for us to distinguish or at least not conflate the Israeli government with the Israeli people.”

In other words: Israelis, we’re with you. Netanyahu, be gone.

Netanyahu has been a frequent obstacle to Democrats’ policies in the Middle East, starting with his opposition to President Barack Obama’s nuclear deal with Iran, and continuing into his opposition to Biden’s Palestinian state ideas.


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Of course it's not Biden's doing. He can't put together a complete sentence.
 
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Harris replied: “I think it’s important for us to distinguish or at least not conflate the Israeli government with the Israeli people.”



So she's treating the Israeli government like Hamas. We have to separate the Palestinians from Hamas and not collectively punish the Palestinians.

JFC.

I'm really stupid at geopolitics, is it normal to try to destabilize allies and topple their government? It's probably super routine and I'm just not paying attention.



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I think many people--and I'm often one of them-- don't really understand the workings of parliamentary democracy.

Netanyahu is Prime Minister because the block of conservative parties-- plural-- held, just barely, the majority in the Knessset, and Bibi led that coalition. In that system, you either forge working relationships with other parties or you don't get to govern.

The current coalition government has precisely one task on its plate: War with Hamas, to the exclusion of any other internal disagreements or inter-party feuding.

Bibi isn't going ANYWHERE. Even his opponents grudgingly admit that he's the right guy to lead a war.
 
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Biden steps on his "Ice Cream Cone"...


"White House attempts to walk back Biden's comments on Israel"

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/386661




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The current coalition government has precisely one task on its plate: War with Hamas, to the exclusion of any other internal disagreements or inter-party feuding.

We used to have a country like that.


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https://www.breitbart.com/midd...attle-against-hamas/

The Israel Defense Forces (IDF) said Wednesday that it would evacuate Palestinian civilians near the Gaza town of Rafah to “humanitarian islands” before entering to fight and destroy the last four remaining Hamas terrorist battalions.

U.S. President Joe Biden has warned Israel not to enter Rafah without a plan for evacuating the civilians who have fled there from the rest of Gaza. Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has insisted that Israel must finish the job of defeating Hamas, lest it recover and return to rule Gaza and to launch terror attacks against Israeli communities again.

Netanyahu directed the IDF to prepare an evacuation plan, as well as a battle plan, which were reviewed by the war cabinet. The White House has said for weeks that it had not seen any of the plans, but Israeli defense minister Yoav Gallant dropped hints earlier Wednesday that Israel had prepared its plans and would strike in the near future.

The core of the plan is to create pockets around the city that would be safe from the fighting

The Israel Defense Forces said Wednesday it plans to direct a significant portion of the 1.4 million displaced Gazans in Rafah toward “humanitarian islands” in the center of the territory, ahead of a planned ground operation in the southernmost Gazan city.



IDF Spokesman Rear Adm. Daniel Hagari said moving those in Rafah to the designated areas, which he stressed will be carried out in coordination with international actors, was a key part of the military’s preparations for its anticipated offensive on Rafah, where Hamas maintains four battalions that Israel says it wants to destroy.

Hagari said those “islands” will provide temporary housing, food, water, and other necessities to civilians fleeing war. He did not say when Rafah’s evacuation will occur, nor when the offensive on the city will begin, explaining that Israel wants the timing to be right operationally and to be coordinated with neighboring Egypt, which has said it does not want an influx of displaced Palestinians crossing its border.
 
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Maybe Biden should make Kamala Harris the Middle East Czar.


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I'd be interested to know how the IDF plans to differentiate the civilian non combatants from Hamas fighters. These people are chameleons and can be cooperative civilians one minute and pick up a rocket launcher the next. Women and children included.


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I’ve wondered the same exact thing, LMS…



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I'd be interested to know how the IDF plans to differentiate the civilian non combatants from Hamas fighters. These people are chameleons and can be cooperative civilians one minute and pick up a rocket launcher the next. Women and children included.

Anyone who runs is Hamas. Anyone who stands still is a well-disciplined Hamas.


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I'd be interested to know how the IDF plans to differentiate the civilian non combatants from Hamas fighters. These people are chameleons and can be cooperative civilians one minute and pick up a rocket launcher the next. Women and children included.


It’s called Overwatch, a sniper sets up where he can watch the area and pops anyone who picks up a weapon



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Remember how the U.S. meddled in Ukraine in 2014 and how wonderful that has turned out.


Israeli Official Says US Trying To Overthrow Netanyahu As Sen. Schumer Calls For New PM

https://www.zerohedge.com/geop...-overthrow-netanyahu

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According to his words as cited in The Washington Post:

Senate Majority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) will call for the Israeli government to hold new elections in a speech warning that Israel risked becoming an international "pariah" under the leadership of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and his right-wing cabinet.

As Biden has faced increased criticisms from Democrats over his unconditional support for Israel, the White House has attempted to distinguish support for Israel and Netanyahu. In the past week, Biden has criticized Netanyahu on several occasions, saying he wanted to have a "come to Jesus" meeting with the leader of the Jewish state.

More at link


Schumer: Netanyahu an obstacle to peace, has to go

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/386750


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Piece of shit. Keel over and die.
 
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I share para's sentiment.

Getting rid of Bibi is not going to change 10/7, can't put that toothpaste back in the bottle. This is not Bibi's war it's Isreals. It's not going to end until the people feel safer.



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To me, Schumer is functionally no different than Caiaphas.



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To me, Schumer is functionally no different than Caiaphas.
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In a topsy turvy world, Fetterman getting attacked by the progressive left for not following the party agenda of Pro Palestine and Open Borders... Who knew....

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John Fetterman 'Betrayed All of Us,' Says Democrat PAC

A pro-Democrat political action committee (PAC) has withdrawn its support for Pennsylvania Senator John Fetterman, citing his vocal backing of Israel's military campaign in Gaza.

The Context
After the October 7 attack on Israel, which left around 1,200 Israelis dead and saw more than 200 hostages kidnapped and taken back to Gaza, Fetterman emerged as one of the most enthusiastic Democratic backers of Israel's campaign against Hamas.

He maintained his position throughout a bombing campaign and ground offensive that has left 31,000 dead, according to the Hamas-run Gaza Health Ministry. The ministry doesn't differentiate between dead civilians and Hamas fighters in its figures, but claims those killed include about 10,000 children and 7,000 women.

What We Know
The No Dem Left Behind PAC wrote on X, formerly Twitter, on Wednesday: "We deeply regret supporting Senator John Fetterman he betrayed all of us."


After another X user disagreed and claimed No Dem Left Behind was being "dramatic," the group replied: "35,000 dead is dramatic?" This appears to be a reference to the 31,000 Palestinians reported to have died in Gaza since October 7.

According to its website, No Dem Left Behind was founded by Hassan Martini with the aim of "amplifying the voices of rural Democrats across the country."

Newsweek contacted Fetterman's congressional office by email outside of normal working hours on Thursday for comment.

In the immediate aftermath of the October 7 attack, Fetterman released a statement saying: "I also fully support Israel neutralizing the terrorists responsible for this barbarism."

In January, Fetterman was filmed waving an Israeli flag at pro-Palestinian demonstrators who were protesting outside his home in Braddock, near Pittsburgh. On March 12, Fetterman posted a screenshot from a Politico article about CIA Director Bill Burns claiming a ceasefire is needed "to help starving children in Gaza."

Senator Fetterman speaking to reporters before a Senate luncheon at the U.S. Capitol on December 12, 2023 in Washington, DC. The No Dem Left Behind PAC claimed Fetterman had "betrayed us all" in a post on X. Kevin Dietsch/GETTY

The senator added: "Hamas owns this starvation. They stole billions in Gaza aid and used resources to help carry out the October 7th massacre. Everyday, Hamas eats well while innocent civilians suffer. Surrendering and releasing every hostage ends starvation in Gaza."

Fetterman has also angered some progressives by calling for "a secure border" between the U.S. and Mexico.

Speaking to NBC News in December Fetterman said: "I'm not a progressive. I just think I'm a Democrat that is very committed to choice and other things. But with Israel, I'm going to be on the right side of that. And immigration is something near and dear to me, and I think we do have to effectively address it as well."

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Fetterman's views on the Israel-Gaza war and immigration have sparked a heated backlash from some progressives.

Posting on X, former MSNBC host Mehdi Hasan claimed the senator "will have the blood of Rafah's children on his hands" should Israel launch an offensive into the city in southern Gaza.

Adam Carlson, a self-identified Democrat and pollster, posted: "Speaking as a Jewish Democrat, it really weirds me out when non-Jewish Democrats (e.g. John Fetterman, Ritchie Torres) are militantly pro-Israel. It borders on political fetishization."

However Fetterman's position on Israel earned praise from Fox News presenter Brian Kilmeade, who said the senator gives him "hope for the country."
 
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There was a reference two or three pages back about how the IDF has estimated the number of Hamas fighters killed at 12,000. Here's a good article in Tablet that the references that and shows how the numbers Biden, Schumer, and the Left are using aren't real.

https://www.tabletmag.com/sect...ack&utm_medium=email


How the Gaza Ministry of Health Fakes Casualty Numbers//
The evidence is in their own poorly fabricated figures
BY ABRAHAM WYNER
MARCH 06, 2024

The number of civilian casualties in Gaza has been at the center of international attention since the start of the war. The main source for the data has been the Hamas-controlled Gaza Health Ministry, which now claims more than 30,000 dead, the majority of which it says are children and women. Recently, the Biden administration lent legitimacy to Hamas’ figure. When asked at a House Armed Services Committee hearing last week how many Palestinian women and children have been killed since Oct. 7, Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin said the number was “over 25,000.” The Pentagon quickly clarified that the secretary “was citing an estimate from the Hamas-controlled Health Ministry.” President Biden himself had earlier cited this figure, asserting that “too many, too many of the over 27,000 Palestinians killed in this conflict have been innocent civilians and children, including thousands of children.” The White House also explained that the president “was referring to publicly available data about the total number of casualties.”

Here’s the problem with this data: The numbers are not real. That much is obvious to anyone who understands how naturally occurring numbers work. The casualties are not overwhelmingly women and children, and the majority may be Hamas fighters.

If Hamas’ numbers are faked or fraudulent in some way, there may be evidence in the numbers themselves that can demonstrate it. While there is not much data available, there is a little, and it is enough: From Oct. 26 until Nov. 10, 2023, the Gaza Health Ministry released daily casualty figures that include both a total number and a specific number of women and children.

The first place to look is the reported “total” number of deaths. The graph of total deaths by date is increasing with almost metronomical linearity, as the graph in Figure 1 reveals.

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The graph reveals an extremely regular increase in casualties over the period. Data aggregated by the author and provided by the United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA), based on Gaza MoH figures.
The graph reveals an extremely regular increase in casualties over the period. Data aggregated by the author and provided by the United Nations Office for the Coordination of Humanitarian Affairs (OCHA), based on Gaza MoH figures.
This regularity is almost surely not real. One would expect quite a bit of variation day to day. In fact, the daily reported casualty count over this period averages 270 plus or minus about 15%. This is strikingly little variation. There should be days with twice the average or more and others with half or less. Perhaps what is happening is the Gaza ministry is releasing fake daily numbers that vary too little because they do not have a clear understanding of the behavior of naturally occurring numbers. Unfortunately, verified control data is not available to formally test this conclusion, but the details of the daily counts render the numbers suspicious.

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