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Try turning it off? My exposure to cable/broadcast news is limited to posts on here and 30 seconds at a time of CNN as I walk in/out of buildings at work. Jesse Sic Semper Tyrannis | |||
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Pffff...I don't watch one SECOND of "news" coverage. Not even Fox. EVERYTHING going on in this f***ed up sick world right now is waaaaaaaaaay outside my circle of influence. I had to tell mother to stop e-mailing that bullshit and don't even talk about it when we're on the phone or face-to-face. NOTHING I can do to change ANY of it... "If you’re a leader, you lead the way. Not just on the easy ones; you take the tough ones too…” – MAJ Richard D. Winters (1918-2011), E Company, 2nd Battalion, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne "Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil... Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; for they have rejected the law of the Lord Almighty and spurned the word of the Holy One of Israel." - Isaiah 5:20,24 | |||
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| Peace through superior firepower  |
This is the first real sign of weakness I've seen from Putin: Putin sparks fears of new 'Red Terror' in 'Stalin-esque' speech on 'fifth column' traitors in Russia I guess things aren't going as Vladimir expected. What's that, man? You say foreign influences are fuckin' with your country? Well, Pot, meet Kettle. How ya like it, ya asshole? What goes around, comes around. ____________________________________________________ "I am your retribution." - Donald Trump, speech at CPAC, March 4, 2023 | |||
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I kept wondering how Ukraine would stop those Russian tanks. A big part of the answer is the UK NLAW and the US Javelin This article leaves a lot to be desired, but there is a video clip of several NLAW hits on Russian tanks https://hotair.com/john-s-2/20...ussian-tanks-n456441 Report is that Britain sent 4,200 NLAWS to Ukraine Next generation Light Anti-tank Weapon | |||
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| Ammoholic |
Honestly, there is no reliable source of information. I try to read CNN, FOX, Washington Times, and WSJ where I get it free. Used to include WaPo in there but I refuse to pay. Read it all, try to decipher the BS from fact. Unachievable mission. So I read and watch independent YouTube stuff. In the end I think ok, that's information, but likely not accurate. I almost long for the times of the big three and not having enough information to question the news. Jesse Sic Semper Tyrannis | |||
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Those are the two most well-known of the anti-tank missiles, and most capable; there's several others that have been sent from a variety of Western nations. Depending on the situation, tanks aren't necessarily the primary targets but, the support vehicles: fuel tankers, ammo/supply trucks, wreckers (tow-trucks for tanks), and bridging vehicles, along with artillery, APCs and air defense. | |||
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Excellent story of citizens resisting the invader. Hope there's more such tales Inside a Ukrainian town's bloody battle to keep Russian invaders away from a nuclear plant and the vital port of Odesa
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| Lead slingin' Parrot Head  |
In a separate radio report I heard and in the video below, many of the people in attendance at the rally were either government workers required to attend, or private sector workers that were either forced or encouraged to attend with the promise of a paid day off from work, although I'm sure many in attendance support President Putin and the war too. @ 3 minute video https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Urz3WTxvPLw | |||
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I keep wondering if this is truly the state of Russia's military. The tanks are lighting up like zippos. But all we're seeing are the T-80s. Where are the T-90s. And why haven't the professional soldiers went in yet?  He who fights with monsters might take care lest he thereby become a monster. | |||
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| Made from a different mold  |
^^^^what SC says! There's more going on here that we aren't seeing. Is this just a ploy to get enough countries involved before bringing in the A-team or is Russia such a shit show that they couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag? My own opinion (worth nothing I might add) is that this is a rope a dope moment. Making everyone feel as if Ukraine has the Russians against the ropes ready to go down any time now. There are still assets we know the Russians have, but we haven't seen them yet. Why? Where are the regular military? Holding out until after the muddy season? Wear the opposing forces down with your 3rd stringers only to finish them off rather easily with the actual military? Too many questions that are difficult to answer at this point. Hell, it really could be that bad for Russia right now, and I am sure we'll all get answers in the next 1-2 months once the season starts to change and fields begin to dry up. ___________________________ No thanks, I've already got a penguin. | |||
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Why he's rope a dopin? Don't know, doesn't make sense. He's lost the battle of public opinion, I think that's a biggie | |||
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| Made from a different mold |
“Appear weak when you are strong, and strong when you are weak.” ― Sun Tzu, The Art of War As to him losing the battle of public opinion? It doesn't matter to him, nor should it. He's the leader of Russia, not the world. As long as his people feel he's doing the right thing for them, nothing said by anyone else matters. I'll add that I don't care one way or another what the outcome is between Russia and Ukraine. It'll all still be corrupt. Politicians will still funnel ill gotten gains through Ukraine or through Russia if they take over. I just hope that the West doesn't get involved any more than we already are. It's a dumb idea and fiscally irresponsible. Haven't we learned from Iraq and Afghanistan? ___________________________ No thanks, I've already got a penguin. | |||
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Somebody needs to give Ukraine a few dozen anti-ship missiles  Actually, mostly t-72 variants. Some T-80s. Join the crowd. There've been a lot of theories, but nobody knows for sure. The predominant theories are two: 1. Putin way under-estimated what the resistance would be and 2. Through corruption and incompetence, Russian forces aren't the powerhouse Russia and the rest of the world thought they were. He lost that on Day 1. That may be a biggie in your mind, but not in Putin's. More importantly: He's lost, period. Even if he manages to take Ukraine, and that's increasingly in doubt, he'll be left with a country trashed by war, riddled with a populace that hates him and Russia--that will throw sand in the gears at every opportunity, a trashed Russian economy, and a country nobody trusts and with whom nobody wants to do business anymore. Right. But, if that's his plan, he's doing it wrong. Reports suggest his own forces are being demoralized. Meanwhile: NATO is re-invigorated and may end up with more members than it had before his adventure. Oops? "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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Kind of an interesting take on why this is not going Putin's way. https://rumble.com/vxo8z3-thug...he-russian-army.html Not sure how accurate it is, i searched the web about some of the key points and...maybe true? historically true, is Russians are not nearly as sensitive to losses as the west/US. attrition is baked into their decisions. fearing a competent military with charismatic and experienced leaders does seem to be how the Russian ruling class operate. The idea that Russia as the big scary boogie man has to go. | |||
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Study teh Soviet/Russian military and this is what was expected. Our tankers during Desert Storm knew the T-series of tank's ammo racks were vulnerable, hence why their turrets pop-off when detonated. Soviet/Russian design is all about pragmatic efficiency and limiting the individual in their choices. Choice and options are not encouraged, you give a person too many possible courses of action and they'll liable to start thinking on their own. Can't have that in an authoritarian state. Mass production and expendability is a hallmark of this mindset and ties-in with their tactics; mass is their trump card in any war. Loosing a few hundred or, thousand is not an issue. Read Russian literature about the romantic notions of their past wars, famines and purges...eliminating/liquidating/loosing people is not an hinderance in the overall thought process. Professional soldiers you ask...again, we're talking about an authoritarian state, the pros are for watching the people, internal security. There's an endless array of uniformed and paramilitary organizations that make up the security state, everything is broken up into little fiefdoms with various Central Committee members overseeing it and watching each other. The National Guard of Russia or, Rosgvardia is the Praetorian Guard, answers only to the president, they've been involved in a handful of battles. So has the VDV or, Russian Airborne Forces, they're the most professional of the military branches and has a viable NCO corps unlike the rest of services. They also are a near separate military service, they're no conscripts among the members, their uniforms are distinct from the other services, their esprit de corps is similar to our USMC. They also have been involved in a handful of battles. Russian offensive philosophy revolves around their artillery, when in doubt or run into any opposition, call in a fire-mission and wipe-out a grid-square. Russian artillery, is another near-separate part of the military, they arguably have the smartest officers since you're doing a lot of math to get your fire missions in the right area. The issue we're seeing is higher-up, we know the lower ranks are not encouraged to seek out and take any initiative, all orders are issued from a central authority, even for pilots. Its the staff level where the Achilles heel is being shown, the planners, the logisticians, the tactical center, the motor pool...all these factors are contributing to zero support for their warfighter, hence the poop-sandwich we're seeing from them. Make no mistake, they are taking ground like hot lava from a volcano working its way down the mountain but, its messy, its sloppy and it runs counter to a lot of Western sensibilities. | |||
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Fighting the good fight |
T-90s have been seen in use in Ukraine. It's just that T-72 variants and T-80 variants make up the vast majority of the Russian military's tank units, so those are the most commonly seen. Compared to their ~5000 T-72s and T-80s, T-90s are relatively small in number: Russia only fields around 350 total T-90s. (The T-90 is basically just a T-72 variant anyway, although renumbered to make it sound more modern.) And Russia's newest T-14 tanks are an even smaller (practically insignificant) percentage of their total tank forces. They have a couple dozen total. I don't believe there have been any reports of T-14s in Ukraine yet. | |||
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| Nullus Anxietas |
Not really. In fact: Near as I can tell they've lost about as much ground as they've gained in the past week. In particular: Those routes they briefly had from their staging area to the east of Sumy? They've now been entirely shut down by Ukrainian hit-and-run operations. They haven't been able to take any of Chernihiv, Sumy, or Kharkiv, much less Kyiv. They still haven't taken Mariupol (though they may finally be getting close). They haven't taken Mykolaiv despite at least two weeks of intense efforts. Their ships are still sitting off Odessa--probably awaiting ground support from the north, but that ground support can't seem to push through. They haven't even managed to push past the sleepy little town of Voznesensk: https://cdrsalamander.blogspot...lbore-friday_18.html "Hot lava?" More like molasses on a cold winter's day. "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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A Grateful American |
Meanwhile...  "the meaning of life, is to give life meaning" ✡ Ani Yehudi אני יהודי Le'olam lo shuv לעולם לא שוב! | |||
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| Nullus Anxietas |
 "America is at that awkward stage. It's too late to work within the system,,,, but too early to shoot the bastards." -- Claire Wolfe "If we let things terrify us, life will not be worth living." -- Seneca the Younger, Roman Stoic philosopher | |||
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Initial invasion plans they were attempting to do 'Thunder Runs' like we did to Baghdad, to rapidly enter major metro areas. Even back then, it was a calculated gamble and required a big logistics lift and have available air cover. Because Russia has proved their logistics (much less their intel and air coordination) isn't very good, their attempts were unsuccessful, bogged down outside of the cities and looking like the JV team. Since then several generals have been fired and encirclement & siege warfare will be the coming tactic. Resistance needs to continue its work, blunting probing attacks, interdicting supply routes and targeting artillery and ammo. Ukraine has answers to tanks/vehicles and air support, they need to attack Russian artillery. Russian army doctrine pivots around it's artillery.
Already posted, up the page. Sal is must read gold. | |||
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