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A little late to the party, after Silverstone a couple weeks back -- For instance, after Silverstone, Hamilton marvelled at the way he was able to scrap with Charles Leclerc at Copse corner and not crash in the way he did with Verstappen a year earlier. “He is a very sensible driver,” Hamilton said of Leclerc. “Clearly a lot different to what I experienced last year.” Verstappen hit back: “I think Charles gave him less space than me last year, so that says it all,” Verstappen replied. “But I think it’s pretty good that at the age of 37 you can still learn to take an apex. It’s good for young drivers to know as well that you can still learn at 37,” he quipped. Set the controls for the heart of the Sun. | |||
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| Why don’t you fix your little problem and light this candle  |
I should have checked Will Buxton, he does seem to always be a straight shooter. I did read three different news report that just listed Hamilton complaining that mean things were said to him by the fans when he crashed and then he tweeted about racism et al. None of them reported on a female who had been assaulted. And WTH is with all the flares and smoke grenades? Is that a track tradition, F1 tradition? I remember the horns at soccer games was the rage for awhile. This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it. -Rear Admiral (Lower Half) Joshua Painter Played by Senator Fred Thompson | |||
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The orange smoke is from the Dutch fans of Verstappen. They use orange as a sign of dutch pride...originating from the founder of the Netherlands William of Orange (a former principality in France) No, Daoism isn't a religion | |||
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| Why don’t you fix your little problem and light this candle |
I find myself torn on the new rules about spending and budgets. On one hand I like that it can help the other teams, and on the other its rough watching Sainz start from the back again. This business will get out of control. It will get out of control and we'll be lucky to live through it. -Rear Admiral (Lower Half) Joshua Painter Played by Senator Fred Thompson | |||
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Sainz starting from the back would have happened under the previous rules too. Ferrari seem to finally have the speed and good tire wear but still lack a number of critical skills to be solid championship contenders. Both the drivers and operations sides need some work. Both are making too many mistakes. Max is getting close to having a lead that requires 3 Leclerc wins with Max not finishing to be back in the game. If Ferrari & Leclerc were to run the table from here on but Max finishes P2 or 3 then it still wouldn't be enough. ___________________________ Avoid buying ChiCom/CCP products whenever possible. | |||
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Team: “Pit now, pit now … box box …” Driver passing for 3rd: “Not now!” Lulz "Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty." ~Robert A. Heinlein | |||
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 Ferrari strategists... | |||
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Yeah, that was interesting timing to broadcast that one. Overall, not a bad race, for what I was expecting to be a snoozer. The Enemy's gate is down. | |||
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The sooner we're done with Paul Ricard, the better. If there has to be a French Grand Prix and it can't be the full LeMans circuit, then either build a new track or just stay at Magny Cours. | |||
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The poor decision making by the Ferrari team leadership is just abysmal Yeah, 10 laps from the end, in 3rd going for second so let’s do a pit stop and clinch 9th Who is actually paying this guy because it’s clear that his decisions hurt Ferrari in just about every case What a moron. | |||
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The only justification I can imagine for the Sainz pit, would be impending tire failure, resulting in no-points/DNF. Calling him in, mid-fight with Perez, more questionable. The Enemy's gate is down. | |||
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While I can't completely blame the team for the timing of Sainz first stop, that was on Leclerc, the rest was just terrible execution. Sainz had to run long on the hard tires to make his strategy work but he probably could have gone much longer before going onto the medium's. Running the mediums to the end at that point was always unlikely. On the stop, they had some problem on the RF and it took several seconds too long- then they released him into an arriving Williams car. They were lucky to not have a crash and to miss the McLaren tires/pit equipment in front of him. Staying out, he would have been close to the front at that point and probably been as fast or faster than the others that had to make their tires last to the end. Had they done that, they always had a chance of another caution, and there was a virtual safety car later that would have been a cheap stop and no 5 second penalty. He would have a much shorter run on those softer tires and had a better chance of gaining ground to the end. Easily a second place. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQPaACBaFbY ___________________________ Avoid buying ChiCom/CCP products whenever possible. | |||
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Anyone else besides Ripley following IndyCar? Apparently, Zak Brown and McLaren Racing are making waves as far as driver signings using F1 testing as an incentive. One driver involved is the 2021 IndyCar Champion Alex Palou. Palou races for Chip Ganassi Racing on a rookie contract that has nothing built into it to force Ganassi to pay him more for outperforming his contact. Palou is pretty pissed and Zak Brown offered him a ride at Arrow McLaren SP (their IndyCar team) with a promise of F1 testing dates and more money. The kicker about Alex Palou is by winning the IndyCar Championship, he is eligible for an F1 Superlicense immediately. If Palou was under contract and McLaren got pissed off enough at Daniel Riccardo and fire him, Palou could be in the car the next day. As a result in mid July, Ganassi put out a press release saying they've activated their extension on Palou's contract with a quote from Palou about how happy he is that was quickly denied by Palou that he ever said such a thing and McLaren puts out a press release saying he's joining the McLaren family. Now, the lawyers are involved: https://www.motorsport.com/ind...pion-palou/10344211/
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The Palau saga is truly a mess, throwing Ricciardo into the pot makes it more so. I try to keep up following other boards but it's all in the air. I haven't brought up IndyCar this year, not enough interest here and other stuff going on personally. As always, it's a great series, the points leader has been changing by the race. F1 itself has been more competitive this year so it's been easier than usual to put IndyCar on the second shelf. But yeah, watch more IndyCar, it is good. Set the controls for the heart of the Sun. | |||
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F1 MotoGP - - IndyCar Just not enough time in the day for it all. I've caught bits of a few Indy races, but only the road courses have any interest to me. The Enemy's gate is down. | |||
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I think Danny Ric would be very comfortable stepping into an Indy Car and racing in The States...he's said he felt very "at home" in Texas during the Austin F1 race No, Daoism isn't a religion | |||
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| I swear I had something for this |
You don't need a Netflix series to make IndyCar exciting. Hell, the doubleheader at Iowa was more exciting than the F1 race, even with it being an oval and most of the races are on free NBC. This weekend is the doubleheader with NASCAR using the Indy Grand Prix track.
Danny Ric has said he refuses to go to IndyCar and would try the WEC first. I think he's another foreigner that's scared of ovals in anything other than an armored tank. He'll either need to be fired or given a Mafia style "offer he can't refuse" to not be in a McLaren next year. | |||
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I caught part of the Long Beach race earlier this season, fun watch. Just not invested in Indy like I've gotten with F1 & GP. The Enemy's gate is down. | |||
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