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They cited the regulation, but I'd have to go back & rewatch to find it.


I linked earlier in thread but don't recall the 3-continent piece. That's interesting if accurate.

15 races seems very ambitious.



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The 3 continent or 8 races will not be that hard to hit, even if they don't start until late summer.
The regular season starts back at Spa and hits Europe, North and South America, Asia and Africa. Australia is the only one they don't go to in the 2nd half that they would normally visit in a full season.


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The 3 continent or 8 races will not be that hard to hit, even if they don't start until late summer.
The regular season starts back at Spa and hits Europe, North and South America, Asia and Africa. Australia is the only one they don't go to in the 2nd half that they would normally visit in a full season.

The problem is that the commercial broadcast rights require 15 races. If they don't stage 15 races, the payout of the following year will be significantly lower as a result of loss of income, which is about $180 million worldwide. Reducing the payout bucket by 35% will not go over well with the teams.

Additionally, as a promoter, why would you want to host a race if you cannot sell tickets. The race fees are set amount to F1, so wouldn't you be better off cancelling the race?
 
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The 3 continent or 8 races will not be that hard to hit, even if they don't start until late summer.
The regular season starts back at Spa and hits Europe, North and South America, Asia and Africa. Australia is the only one they don't go to in the 2nd half that they would normally visit in a full season.

The problem is that the commercial broadcast rights require 15 races. If they don't stage 15 races, the payout of the following year will be significantly lower as a result of loss of income, which is about $180 million worldwide. Reducing the payout bucket by 35% will not go over well with the teams.

Additionally, as a promoter, why would you want to host a race if you cannot sell tickets. The race fees are set amount to F1, so wouldn't you be better off cancelling the race?


Liberty will have to pay the tracks. Liberty’s revenue is television based so they will have to “rent” the tracks to get them on tv. Ratings will be monstrous because of the lack of sporting events.

It’s doable. Liberty needs money moving.


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Sebastian Vettel’s future in Formula 1 beyond the end of 2020 has been thrown into doubt after it was announced the German and Ferrari will part ways at the end of the year…

Vettel and Ferrari have been in talks for several months about an extension, with Team Principal Mattia Binotto saying the four-time world champion was his number one choice to race alongside Charles Leclerc next year.

However, they have been unable to agree terms on a new deal, leading to today's announcement.

"My relationship with Scuderia Ferrari will finish at the end of 2020,” said Vettel. “In order to get the best possible results in this sport, it’s vital for all parties to work in perfect harmony.

“The team and I have realised that there is no longer a common desire to stay together beyond the end of this season. Financial matters have played no part in this joint decision. That’s not the way I think when it comes to making certain choices and it never will be.

“What’s been happening in these past few months has led many of us to reflect on what are our real priorities in life. One needs to use one’s imagination and to adopt a new approach to a situation that has changed. I myself will take the time I need to reflect on what really matters when it comes to my future.

“Scuderia Ferrari occupies a special place in Formula 1 and I hope it gets all the success it deserves. Finally, I want to thank the whole Ferrari family and above all its “tifosi” all around the world, for the support they have given me over the years.

“My immediate goal is to finish my long stint with Ferrari, in the hope of sharing some more beautiful moments together, to add to all those we have enjoyed so far."

Binotto added: "This is a decision taken jointly by ourselves and Sebastian, one which both parties feel is for the best. It was not an easy decision to reach, given Sebastian’s worth as a driver and as a person.

"There was no specific reason that led to this decision, apart from the common and amicable belief that the time had come to go our separate ways in order to reach our respective objectives.

“Sebastian is already part of the Scuderia’s history, with his 14 Grands Prix wins making him the third most successful driver for the team, while he is also the one who has scored the most points with us.

"In our five years together, he has finished in the top three of the Drivers’ Championship three times, making a significant contribution to the team’s constant presence in the top three of the Constructors’ classification.

“On behalf of everyone at Ferrari, I want to thank Sebastian for his great professionalism and the human qualities he has displayed over these five years, during which we shared so many great moments.

"We have not yet managed to win a world title together, which would be a fifth for him, but we believe that we can still get a lot out of this unusual 2020 season."

Vettel joined Ferrari in 2015, stepping into Fernando Alonso's cockpit, with the sole aim of bringing world championship success back to the Scuderia.

However, while Ferrari at times gave him a car to challenge at the top, they were never able to mount a serious, consistent challenge to world champions Mercedes.

Charles Leclerc joined the team last year and immediately put the pressure on and ultimately came out on top, in terms of championship position, wins and poles, raising questions about Vettel's position and future at the team.

Ultimately, Vettel and Ferrari couldn't agree a way forward, making this season - when it eventually gets under way - the German's last with Ferrari.




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Maybe he will go to Mercedes and Hamilton to Ferrari?
 
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My vote would be for Daniel Ricciardo to Ferrari.
LeClerc looks like the real deal but being the top driver for Ferrari requires more history than 2 wins.
Daniel seems to be able to win every opportunity that he has a good car and nobody wins nowadays in a bad car, even Hamilton. He's been a great teammate to anyone too.


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I'm thinking Seb is out/retired after 2020.

Reigning guesses seem to say Ricciardo or Sainz to Ferrari & Hulkenburg possibly making a return.

Another option could be to return Raikkonen to Ferrari & bring up a Jr or Hulk to Alfa.




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Now with the Vettel announcement official, the strong rumors are Sainz in is.
If that's the case, they are going for a #1 & #2 situation in my opinion.
There seems to be more action on the drivers market without any racing, with more to come.


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The rumors I keep reading are Sainz to Ferrari and Ricciardo to McLaren




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The rumors I keep reading are Sainz to Ferrari and Ricciardo to McLaren


That’s how I see it happening. Ferrari want another young driver to pair with Leclerc, and Ricciardo now realizes that Renault isn’t going anywhere for quite a while and he needs to get out. Then the question is who goes to Renault? Do they bring the Hulk back, bring someone up from F2, or try to poach someone from one of the other teams, like George Russell?
 
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Ricciardo to MCL wouldn't be a bad move. They've been consistently improving & I think he'd bring out a lot in that car.

I don't really see Russell going to Renault, he's in the MBZ driver academy program, so I'd really only see him with Williams, ForceIndia/RacingPoint or Mercedes.
But the same thing happened with Ocon, so who knows.




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Ricciardo now realizes that Renault isn’t going anywhere for quite a while and he needs to get out.

He almost signed with them before going with the French team...he thought the factory team would offer him a better chance for good results. With MCL changing to Merc power, they would be an obvious landing spot for him.




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Daniel needed to do what he did, cash in for a year or two to give him financial security. He's right up there with the top guys but was in a difficult position in Red Bull with limited options.
If he could somehow get the Ferrari seat, great. If he ends up at McLaren, OK too.
Renault just doesn't seem to have the desire or dedication to do what it takes to get to the top and for him to stay there would only be for the dollars.


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The real concern is where will Stroll go!!?? Wink
 
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The real concern is where will Stroll go!!?? Wink


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With today’s announcements I’d say McLaren has come out the best, the only one the really strengthen their lineup.


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It's official
Sainz > Ferrari
Ricciardo > McLaren

https://www.formula1.com/en/la...OyivTKN67Qx28Tl.html


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Two days after it was announced Sebastian Vettel would be leaving Ferrari at the end of 2020, the Italian team have confirmed Carlos Sainz as Charles Leclerc’s new team mate from 2021 onwards.

Sainz, 25, will join the Italian squad on a two-year deal after two seasons at McLaren, creating the youngest driver pairing in Ferrari’s recent history in the process.


https://www.formula1.com/en/la...5ZasbdFg4qCjbZo.html


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In the second big driver move of the week, McLaren have announced the signing of Daniel Ricciardo for 2021 on a "multi-year" deal.

Ferrari revealed on Tuesday that Sebastian Vettel would be leaving the team at the end of the year – a move which has triggered a host of other driver switches up and down the grid.

McLaren today confirmed that Carlos Sainz is leaving the Woking team, with Ferrari expected to announce the Spaniard as Vettel's replacement later today, and following that switch McLaren have moved swiftly to slot Ricciardo into the seat Sainz is vacating.

The Australian is currently partway through a two-year deal with Renault after he left Red Bull at the end of 2018 to join the French manufacturer, but has now clearly decided McLaren are a better bet for his future, especially with Mercedes engines from next year.

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Brilliant opportunity for Sainz.
Risky for Danny Ric but probably no more so than Renault and the two year deal is a good one, if McLaren doesn’t fold up tents.

Is it July yet?!!?



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