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The tie breaker should been between the two of them on the Nordschleife. | |||
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That is my point. British society is classist (or has classist elements), so if this is a criticism of Britain, I get it. How does it turn into a valid criticism of Hamilton for accepting an award from the British state? Should he refuse the award? Should all Britons refuse all such awards, and drive the Queen out of Buckingham Palace? Do you heap this same scorn of any Briton, or just members of the House of Lords or others with titles? Why be mad at those with knighthoods (which you don't have to be high-born to get.) A knighthood like he got is the equivalent of the Presidential Medal of Freedom. I don't see it as taking part in the classist elements of British culture and society. Hell, Hamilton is at the bottom of the British class system as a poor non-white person. This is a merit-based award - I just don't see why it is offensive just because the Prince of Wales hands it to him. What the fuck does India have to do with this. Yes, they have classes, too. And they used to be under British rule . . . ? Your anger about British classism seems very unfocused and free-floating. Just what is it you are mad about? You aren't even British. Apply more logic to this situation. I don't know why you don't like Hamilton. Accepting a knighthood seems a poor reason, but if you say that is what it is, okay. It seems to me that you don't like Hamilton and you don't like classism in Britain, so you have it all mushed up together somehow. I can't pull it apart. The fish is mute, expressionless. The fish doesn't think because the fish knows everything. | |||
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A little off-topic gentlemen… __________________ "Owning a handgun doesn't make you armed any more than owning a guitar makes you a musician." -Jeff Cooper | |||
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Apologies Chris. Back on topic. Put in gravel. "Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty." ~Robert A. Heinlein | |||
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Hoping for much closer racing in '22 Maybe we'll get some flashes of 2014-15 when some of the midfield were fighting for podiums. Hoping we get more than YouTube highlights of testing. The Enemy's gate is down. | |||
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They've had all gravel before, grass, and combinations of those and more. The idea is to make it as safe as possible and have cars able to continue in the race. Years ago a first lap like we have now would result in a third of the field out on lap one. There is also the issue of dropping stones back onto the track if you can get out, creating a real safety hazard. Helmut Marko himself had a short F1 career after he was struck in the eye by a stone, blinding him in one eye. I don't have a problem with the asphalt, just the lack of a clear rule and enforcement method. A few of the courses have bollards you need to go around that result in a several second penalty. Watch the famous Senna-Prost Suzuka incident for a good example. ___________________________ Avoid buying ChiCom/CCP products whenever possible. | |||
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Style point if you want to be in with the cool kids over at the Brit-centric Autosport F1 forum, SLH is now the given standard. I'll throw this back in this post, SLH showing why some are less than reverential about who he is -- ‘F*** you’ message at 2021 finale ‘coincidence’ – Hamilton fta - Mercedes’ Hamilton, having called his Dutch rival “f***ing crazy” on the radio in Saudi Arabia, walked into the circuit wearing a jumper with the words “F*** you” on the back. “That’s just a coincidence,” the seven time world champion insisted. “I only saw it when I was getting dressed.” This message has been edited. Last edited by: Ripley, Set the controls for the heart of the Sun. | |||
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Mercedes Drops Finale Appeal
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Tomorrow’s Headline - Michael Massi gets Promotion and Raise as Race Director in 20 Year Contract "Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty." ~Robert A. Heinlein | |||
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Glad the season's over. Got an email that YouTubeTV & Disney could not reach an agreement for contract renewal & Disney/ESPN have been removed as of 12/17. If they don't get it sorted by March, might cancel & finally take the plunge on F1TV. The Enemy's gate is down. | |||
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Threatening to quit F1 … Ha ha That’s pretty funny watching sir baby rock his pram, toss his rattle in the corner and kick the slats out of his crib. "Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty." ~Robert A. Heinlein | |||
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Come on Sir Chinstrap, retire! F1 would be better if you did. | |||
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From a few days ago -- Lewis Hamilton, Toto Wolff will not attend FIA prizegiving gala PARIS, France -- Lewis Hamilton and his Mercedes team boss Toto Wolff will not attend the FIA's prize giving ceremony in Paris on Thursday evening, Wolff has confirmed. blah blah blah... Set the controls for the heart of the Sun. | |||
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Dispute resolved, Disney & ESPN are back. YTTV stays for now in our house. The Enemy's gate is down. | |||
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RE: The last few posts. I'd genuinely be shocked if LH took his ball & went home. He's in prime racing form, with the car to back it up. Supposedly he was the reason MB dropped their appeal, as he didn't want to win the title in court. The new FIA president has already said 'no sympathy' for LH skipping the prize gala, if rules were breached. Though it'll be a financial & not a driving penalty, so a drop in the bucket for LH. The Enemy's gate is down. | |||
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| women dug his snuff and his gallant stroll |
How do you know whether the MB will be dominate next year? It's entirely possible with the new car regulations that MB could be mid-pack. This last season, 2021, was Sir Chinstrap's best chance at eight Driver's Championships. | |||
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True, but I don't expect them to drop much off the front, if at all. The Enemy's gate is down. | |||
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So when they float the rules for a Safety Car, Sir Chinstrap is nowhere to be found. When they float the rules for Knighthood, Sir Chinstrap is there. Childish much? | |||
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91 yr old F1 Supremo Bernie “the poison dwarf” Ecclestone echoes my sentiments exactly. No reason for the lordship other than being rich (i.e. no value delivered to England) and that his loss in the race is simply racing, w/ louis being the past benefactor of last second issues, winning the WC i.e. Timo Glock, Felipe Massa in Brazil. "Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty." ~Robert A. Heinlein | |||
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Bernie also thinks Flavio Briatore should be running Ferrari if they want to win again. https://www.planetf1.com/news/...ari-flavio-briatore/ ___________________________ Avoid buying ChiCom/CCP products whenever possible. | |||
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