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Originally posted by M_E_:
The Glock is NOT a safe pistol to carry.
No, I will never own a Glock. YOU CAN BUY THEM ALL!!! Keep away from me when you carry, please!

Every single time someone shoots themselves with a Glock, it is all but guaranteed they've violated one or more rules of gun safety. Cops were shooting themselves, and everyone and everything else they weren't supposed to, long before Glocks came on the scene. Blaming guns for accidental discharges is like blaming liberal democrats for prosperity. Bill T.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7eyJM-go7Bk

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Originally posted by ScorpionBoy:
folks that have had a bad grip/hand fitment should definitely hold a short frame.

For me it's not so much the girth (can I say that here), but of the angle of the grip.

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Originally posted by M_E_:
Just ask the Tollison, AZ. PD Officer who blew off his index finger while adjusting his shorts with his Glock in his duty holster!!!

You're being a little loose with the facts:
Officer's self-wounding was 'freakish accident'


Officer's self-wounding was 'freakish accident'
Gun was holstered when it fired, police say
by Megan Gordon - Apr. 25, 2009 12:00 AM
The Arizona Republic
Tolleson police said the armed school-resource officer who shot himself in the finger this week never took his weapon out of its holster and deemed the shooting a "freakish accident."

Officer Ray Granillo's gun discharged inadvertently Wednesday, as students at Arizona Desert Elementary School were being dismissed.

He was shot in his right middle finger and is recovering at St. Joseph's Hospital and Medical Center in Phoenix.

After investigating the incident, Tolleson Police Chief Larry Rodriguez outlined this series of events:


• Granillo was dressed in plainclothes because of early dismissal. His .40-caliber Glock was holstered onto his belt.


• Granillo unlocked the gate outside the cafeteria in preparation for early release.


• After tucking the keys into his pants, one key became lodged in an opening between the leather holster and trigger.


• Granillo cupped his hand underneath the holster and "tugged up" to readjust his belt.


• Enough pressure was applied between the trigger, key and holster to cause the gun to fire.

"It was a very strange and very unusual situation," Rodriguez said.

"When we got to him, the gun was still in the holster . . . and the spent cartridge was still in the weapon."

Officers found a small scratch on the trigger, corroborating the investigation's theory, Rodriguez said.

Tolleson Elementary School District officials are holding a community meeting Monday to answer any questions parents may have.

"Our big issue right now is student safety," Superintendent Bill Christensen said.

"We want to make sure our parents and our community members feel safe."

Granillo, 57, has been a resource officer for two years. He teaches anti-bullying and drug-prevention courses on the K-8 campus.

"He is seen as the safe person for parents and students," Christensen said. "He's very popular."

Rodriguez said all school-resource officers carry loaded guns because "that's their function" at the school.

Many districts have a partnership with local law-enforcement agencies to allow school-resource officers on campus.

The Goodyear Police Department partners with all the school districts within the city, and each school has its own resource office.

Litchfield Elementary School District also pays for an officer at Wigwam Creek Middle School.

"The program is important because the officers serve as a resource to the school," said Rani Collins, Arizona Department of Education's School Safety Program administrator

"They serve as role models to the students, showing the human side of law enforcement as well as deterring crime on campus."

Tolleson Elementary School District pays 100 percent of Granillo's $65,000 annual salary through the state-funded School Safety Program Grant.

The district also has another resource officer at Porfirio H. Gonzales Elementary School, also in Tolleson.

This seems to point in the direction of negligence. The Officer allowed a foreign object to come in contact with the trigger. (although I'm still not certain how...)

glucks r tools

I tried out a glock in my hand before I got my p250, it was no comparison that the sig was better. I got to use a glock later at the range for the range portion of my CCW. It was nice, but I'll still stick with my p250 over a glock. It just feels and shoots better for myself.

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Originally posted by Magnum Mike:
glucks r tools

All firearms are tools.

I felt a little dirty buying my first Glock. I'd been a Sig guy for years -- wouldn't have anything else. A friend of mine, Glock shooter naturally, just gave me that knowing smile and said, "One of these days..."

So one of these days rolled around and I bought a G26 (9mm to Sig-o-philes). I put a Pearce 39 mag floorplate on it, a Ghost 3.5 lb connector and then loaded it up with enough rounds that my P225 ducked its head and hid.

Then I took that little sucker out and drove tacks with it. Couldn't believe it! Damn, I thought, where has this thing been all my life. I went back and apologized to everyone I ever laughed at for carrying a Clock, Block, plastic gun or whatever other derogatory term I used for these Austrian handguns.

So I went out and bought a G30, and now I've got a G20SF on the way. Nope, not selling my Sigs, but I ain't running down Glocks no more, either. They're damn fine guns, plus, anyone can upgrade or modify one in a heartbeat.

Best of all, it shoots anywhere and you can't hurt the damn thing. Drop it, leave it out in the rain, dirt, mud, desert -- go get it, pull the trigger and it shoots. Doesn't get much better than that.

Just got a G22 RTF and a G19. There will be at least one more Glock in my future......a G19 RTF when it comes out. Of course I should also have a H&K P2000 (the other tupperware pistol) in a couple weeks (Thanks to Donna aka MississipiGal).

Still no... I did buy a Glock, but not another one...

Unless that thing shoots LASER PLASMA BEAMS...!

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Originally posted by M_E_:
No. No I won't waste my money on that gun. Yea, they're cool looking as the Glock reps bounced them off the floor at the NRA show in Phoenix. But I do not wish to play basketball using a Glock! The Glock is NOT a safe pistol to carry. Just ask the Tollison, AZ. PD Officer who blew off his index finger while adjusting his shorts with his Glock in his duty holster!!! The Glock is closing in on catching the 1911 as the pistol that has shot more lightbars on roofs & made holes in the car seats in patrol cars.


No, I will never own a Glock. YOU CAN BUY THEM ALL!!! Keep away from me when you carry, please!

This is quite possibly the dumbest post I've ever read in all my years on this forum. If a Glock is properly secured in a properly designed holster, nothing can get to the trigger. Any gun is unsafe in careless hands. Any gun is perfectly safe in properly trained hands. Keep your booger hook off the bang stick and it won't fire!

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Originally posted by M_E_:
No. No I won't waste my money on that gun. Yea, they're cool looking as the Glock reps bounced them off the floor at the NRA show in Phoenix. But I do not wish to play basketball using a Glock! The Glock is NOT a safe pistol to carry. Just ask the Tollison, AZ. PD Officer who blew off his index finger while adjusting his shorts with his Glock in his duty holster!!! The Glock is closing in on catching the 1911 as the pistol that has shot more lightbars on roofs & made holes in the car seats in patrol cars.


No, I will never own a Glock. YOU CAN BUY THEM ALL!!! Keep away from me when you carry, please!

I read the jibberish you posted above, but I couldn't understand what it was you were talking about. So I used the Google machine to pull up babelfish and translate it all for me. Here is what it read;

Translation: "I heard a bunch of anti-Glock comments and "stories" in my local gun store and I thought I would come on the interweb and share it all with you guys in hopes of making you guys think, that maybe, I might have some sort of a clue what it is I am talking about. Then everyone will like me..yeah!"

I love when I hear the, "the Glock just went off on it's own" stories. They are always good for a laugh.

A Glock will be the next pistol I buy after my death! Viva La Sig!

I am really lusting after a 10mm glock right now. I have a strong feeling a G20 is going to find its way home fairly soon.

I too laugh when I hear all these "I wouldn't buy a Glock under any circumstances" comments because that's the way I felt from the time they came out until, oh, last year some time.

The guy (forget his handle) who said Glocks are unsafe, well, all he did was identify himself as being too stupid to learn how to shoot one or admit he's unwilling to unlearn how to shoot a DA revolver. Either way, he's better off without a Glock and so are the people around him.

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Originally posted by M_E_:
The Glock is NOT a safe pistol to carry.

Pssssst...

One of the most basic principles of firearm safety is... safety systems do not make a gun safe. You can't trust a safety to work; so you act as if there wasn't one and follow the four rules:

1. Always assume all guns are loaded at all times
2. Never point a gun at something you do not wish to destroy
3. Never put your finger on the trigger until you are ready to fire
4. Always be sure of your target, and what is behind it

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I felt a little dirty buying my first Glock.

That's what happens when you drink the Kool Aide. You ARE dirty now. You will never leave the shower feeling clean again.

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Originally posted by MarkC:

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I felt a little dirty buying my first Glock.

That's what happens when you drink the Kool Aide. You ARE dirty now. You will never leave the shower feeling clean again.

Did a Glock touch you in your naughty places when you were a child?

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Originally posted by parabellum:

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Originally posted by MarkC:

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I felt a little dirty buying my first Glock.

That's what happens when you drink the Kool Aide. You ARE dirty now. You will never leave the shower feeling clean again.

Did a Glock touch you in your naughty places when you were a child?

ROTFLOL

Talking to Glock owners is like talking to the man who married a hideously ugly wife who justifies his decision by calling attention to how well she cooks and cleans. He seems oblivious to the fact that beauty, brains and culinary expertise are not mutually exclusive categories. For the ladies in this forum substitute ugly wife with that beer drinking slob watching the baseball game.

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Originally posted by MarkC:

ROTFLOL

Talking to Glock owners is like talking to the man who married a hideously ugly wife who justifies his decision by calling attention to how well she cooks and cleans. He seems oblivious to the fact that beauty, brains and culinary expertise are not mutually exclusive categories. For the ladies in this forum substitute ugly wife with that beer drinking slob watching the baseball game.

lol reminds me of an old bluegrass song.

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UGLYGIRL Flatwoods String Band
Vocals: Andy Gerhart & “Dirty Larry” McLaughlin | Guitar: Andy
HERE'S A SONG FOR ALL YOU LADIES ...HIT IT !
* CHORUS *
So always marry an ugly girl 'cause that's the only kind
She'll never ever leave you, and if she does you won't mind

My daddy married an ugly girl and thought that she'd be true
Then came along the milk man, and I am living proof
* CHORUS *
My brother married an ugly girl; he thought he had it made
Every time she got undressed, the neighbors pulled the shades
* CHORUS *
My uncle married an ugly girl, the family got uptight
They had a formal wedding, so they painted the shotgun white
* CHORUS *
HERE'S MY FAVORITE ONE... HERE'S THE CLINCHER, BOYS ! ...HIT IT !
My sister married an ugly girl, the family was surprised
They found out on that wedding night, that girl was an ugly guy!
* CHORUS *

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Originally posted by MarkC:

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Originally posted by parabellum:

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Originally posted by MarkC:

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I felt a little dirty buying my first Glock.

That's what happens when you drink the Kool Aide. You ARE dirty now. You will never leave the shower feeling clean again.

Did a Glock touch you in your naughty places when you were a child?

ROTFLOL

Talking to Glock owners is like talking to the man who married a hideously ugly wife who justifies his decision by calling attention to how well she cooks and cleans. He seems oblivious to the fact that beauty, brains and culinary expertise are not mutually exclusive categories. For the ladies in this forum substitute ugly wife with that beer drinking slob watching the baseball game.

Here's a doll. Can you show the court where the Glock touched you?