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Have been trying to keep up with this thread, so hopefully, this isn’t a repost.

This is a good video that goes over the math to identify the “glitch” that has been occurring. This covers the glitch of votes being taken from Trump and given to Biden. It also seems that this is a setting in the software.




Link to original video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ztu5Y5obWPk


To bump this post.

I watched this whole video this afternoon.

It is like a red pill/blue pill moment. Very eye opening. If you haven't watched it, make the time.



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Anyone confirmed whether and why Gina Haspel was summoned to Mitch McConnells office Monday? If it happened I find it curious as to what may have been discussed. Regards 18DAI


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I haven't watched the Dr. Shiva video above. But I'd point out that Dr. Shiva is pretty much known as a wacko in Massachusetts. He's not well regarded on either side of the aisle, left or right. He runs against Warren when he can and he launched a write in run against Markey.

In any case people do not take him seriously. I don't know a lot about him but I think it's at least good to know the general thought on him if watching his videos.




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^^^ You have to consider, you're talking about residents of MA. And I can say that as I was born and grew up there.




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Anyone confirmed whether and why Gina Haspel was summoned to Mitch McConnells office Monday? If it happened I find it curious as to what may have been discussed. Regards 18DAI


Not only did Haspel (Director of the CIA) visit McConnell, but Barr had a meeting with him as well. McConnell is one of the few powerful Republicans supporting Trump right now. Mike Pompeo, former CIA director, is extremely confident in a 2nd Trump term. And Biden is not allowed ANY briefings on what is going on with Haspel, Barr, and McConnell. They know something beyond forged ballots.



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A quick way to get to the bottom of the Dominion controversy would force them to turn over their source code. Simple and the answer could be found within a day or two with the right software engineering team. Same with all voting machine manufacturers. Their source code cannot and should not be a trade secret.
 
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Yes... All software used to collect and tabulate votes should be open source and examinable whenever and wherever. It is pretty simple to see if there are differences between the "known good" software and suspect revisions (blockchain, checksums, etc.).

That is the only way that these things can be avoided if machine use is a must (I don't believe it is).

For the record, I am not a software engineer, but have read a bit about it.


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I haven't watched the Dr. Shiva video above. But I'd point out that Dr. Shiva is pretty much known as a wacko in Massachusetts. He's not well regarded on either side of the aisle, left or right. He runs against Warren when he can and he launched a write in run against Markey.

In any case people do not take him seriously. I don't know a lot about him but I think it's at least good to know the general thought on him if watching his videos.



I read the same online. Regardless, in the video is a also a statician who is an elected poll watcher that is a also verifying the data. One thing they do not show you is how they got thier data on the backend, but from a statisticala and mathematical standpoint thier data shows findings that are nearly impossible. Of course this assumes that thier plots/data are correct.

Shiva has tweeted both DJT and biden to have a discussion.



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Yes... All software used to collect and tabulate votes should be open source and examinable whenever and wherever. It is pretty simple to see if there are differences between the "known good" software and suspect revisions (blockchain, checksums, etc.).

Agreed.

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That is the only way that these things can be avoided if machine use is a must (I don't believe it is).

Ballots tabulated by machines would be much more trustworthy than ballots tabulated by hand, if the machines can be trusted.

There is no earthly reason both the hardware designs and the software cannot be published publicly. As I noted a couple days back: The hardware and software to tabulate ballots simply isn't rocket science.

Furthermore: Transporting the subtotals from each precinct's tabulations to a machine to add them all up, securely and safely, wouldn't be rocket science, either. It could easily be done with thumb drives in such a way so as to ensure the data is valid and uncorrupted.

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For the record, I am not a software engineer, ...

I was.



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GAME ON! Michigan State Senators DEMAND Full Audit of 2020 Elections



“We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,”
Pres. Select, Joe Biden

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You noticed that letter is dated for tomorrow?






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You noticed that letter is dated for tomorrow?

Yep, just deleted link and provide link to article.
Strange.

Edited to add:
Just to a second look.
It appears they used the same mail service which returned ballots before they were sent.
Wink



“We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,”
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“Let’s go, Brandon” Kelli Stavast, 2 Oct. 2021
 
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A quick way to get to the bottom of the Dominion controversy would force them to turn over their source code. Simple and the answer could be found within a day or two with the right software engineering team. Same with all voting machine manufacturers. Their source code cannot and should not be a trade secret.


Couldn't that be changed to hide the truth?
 
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Amid Voting Irregularity Challenges, Democrats Call For People To Move To Georgia To Stack The Vote


Rep. Hank Johnson might be opposed to that idea. Wink
 
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Couldn't that be changed to hide the truth?



I'm not a computer guy, but I'm assuming they have the data saved on some sort of device. If they asked the machine to tabulate the data, wouldn't it be a different result if they altered how it counted?


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You noticed that letter is dated for tomorrow?

Yep, just deleted link and provide link to article.
Strange.

Nothing strange about it. Letters are dated the next day all the time. Especially when sent out later in the day. Or, it could just be an error. Gateway Pundit is reporting the same letter, so I don't think it's made up garbage.


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I haven't watched the Dr. Shiva video above. But I'd point out that Dr. Shiva is pretty much known as a wacko in Massachusetts. He's not well regarded on either side of the aisle, left or right. He runs against Warren when he can and he launched a write in run against Markey.

In any case people do not take him seriously. I don't know a lot about him but I think it's at least good to know the general thought on him if watching his videos.


I watched the entire video last night. I'm not an engineer but the presentation was explained so that even a layman such as myself could understand the concept, and even if you don't find Dr. Shiva credible, I didn't notice any flaws in the methodology used to evaluate the data.

It's worth noting that there were two other experts involved in gathering and analyzing the data, and Dr. Shiva claimed to be an Independent, another presenter acknowledged being a Democrat, and the presenter on the phone claimed to be a Republican.

I got the impression they were down on all the established major parties and were pursuing this with an eye towards third party rule, but whatever their agenda, the data analysis they presented and their recommendations for correcting election fraud vulnerabilities are at least worth considering.
 
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Amid Voting Irregularity Challenges, Democrats Call For People To Move To Georgia To Stack The Vote


Rep. Hank Johnson might be opposed to that idea. Wink


But Georgia is attached to the rest of the US so it should be OK. Big Grin
 
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I haven't watched the Dr. Shiva video above. But I'd point out that Dr. Shiva is pretty much known as a wacko in Massachusetts. He's not well regarded on either side of the aisle, left or right. He runs against Warren when he can and he launched a write in run against Markey.

In any case people do not take him seriously. I don't know a lot about him but I think it's at least good to know the general thought on him if watching his videos.


I watched the entire video last night. I'm not an engineer but the presentation was explained so that even a layman such as myself could understand the concept, and even if you don't find Dr. Shiva credible, I didn't notice any flaws in the methodology used to evaluate the data.

It's worth noting that there were two other experts involved in gathering and analyzing the data, and Dr. Shiva claimed to be an Independent, another presenter acknowledged being a Democrat, and the presenter on the phone claimed to be a Republican.

I got the impression they were down on all the established major parties and were pursuing this with an eye towards third party rule, but whatever their agenda, the data analysis they presented and their recommendations for correcting election fraud vulnerabilities are at least worth considering.

This is the argument against the Shiva presentation. Note that this basically applies different arguments as to why republican voters would vote straight ticket or just Trump. This justifies the response that was seen.
I don't agree with his logic, and of course Shiva seemed to show that the slopes varied between counties depending whether they were included in a swing state.
It's hard to make a determination without seeing more data from more counties. However why not look closer at the machines anyway?
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GAME ON! Michigan State Senators DEMAND Full Audit of 2020 Elections


You noticed that letter is dated for tomorrow?
Nothing strange about it. Letters are dated the next day all the time. Especially when sent out later in the day. Or, it could just be an error. Gateway Pundit is reporting the same letter, so I don't think it's made up garbage.


Best part is the GOP controls the state legislature. It should say do it or we don't certify.
 
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