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What the hell is she talking about? Am I missing something…aren’t all the roofs there slightly sloping ? I’m a bit of a black helicopter guy by default but I’m trying to go with it here. But it’s so damned close to being nefariously incompetent that it’s tempting me to go down that conspiracy road. Show some honor and step down lady. We’ll sort it out after you’re gone. 0:01 | |||
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| Savor the limelight |
My son and I are fishing the Trout River just north of Roger’s City, MI. We walked across a bunch of slippery and shifting rocks under the bridge for US23. I kid you not, I thought Secret Service can’t get me, too dangerous. | |||
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Lost |
Instead of complaining, why don't we do something to actually address the problem? What do you say to a group buy of these for donating to the SS? "Sorry, but that roof is 2 degrees outside our safety perimeter."  | |||
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That's not an all-inclusive list. I'll add complacency to it. Year V | |||
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| No More Mr. Nice Guy |
It seems to me, as someone with no relevant experience, that regular police have a very different frame of reference than trained protective professionals. Even police snipers and DHS officers. SS would be experienced and keyed into a whole different thought process of multiple layers of what-if and of proactive intervention. Police would be more reactive, and oriented to the common kinds of criminal activities they deal with daily. Not an excuse, but an explanation of how local police and even DHS officers would make errors that a regular SS presidential detail would not make. A failure of the leadership for sure. | |||
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Seppuku. But who would be her kaishaku? ____________________ | |||
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I'll use the Red Key |
There is a whole host of incompetence to go around at every level of the government over this (federal/state/local). Sadly their incompetence is getting people killed. And if malice was involved, or intended, this clearly shows how totally incompetent they all are. Donald Trump is not a politician, he is a leader, politicians are a dime a dozen, leaders are priceless. | |||
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Who knows if the building has insulated ceilings or false ceiling tiles. And with the loudspeakers from the rally, it's possible they wouldn't have heard footsteps on the roof. And who knows what noise was inside the building? TV and radio? We still don't know everything, but from what I've read and seen - incompetency and perhaps complacency seem to be the front runners. P229 | |||
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more news is on the way, things are happening rapidly | |||
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| Lost |
Thomas Matthew Crooks was found with a Home Depot receipt for a ladder. Wonder what he needed a ladder for? | |||
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Step by step walk the thousand mile road |
Can I use my  ?Nice is overrated "It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government." Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018 | |||
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Shall Not Be Infringed |
They should NOT get a pass, or even the slightest benefit of the doubt here! He was seen multiple times, and acting sketchy such that they even photographed him. He was seen with backpack (not a small one if it was the one pictured on the roof), AND using a rangefinder! Even most of the non-LEO members of SIGforum posting in this thread would've seen these as CLUEs requiring further investigation. SOMEBODY should've got their ass out of the AC and headed outside to confront him! ____________________________________________________________ If Some is Good, and More is Better.....then Too Much, is Just Enough !! Trump 2024....Make America Great Again! "May Almighty God bless the United States of America" - parabellum 7/26/20 Live Free or Die! | |||
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This Space for Rent |
<insert joke here about restricting ladders; especially ones with a high step count> We will never know world peace, until three people can simultaneously look each other straight in the eye Liberals are like pussycats and Twitter is Trump's laser pointer to keep them busy while he takes care of business - Rey HRH. | |||
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| Lost |
Dad: What did you buy a ladder for, son? TMC: To get a better shot of Trump. Dad: Why are you borrowing my AR? TMC: To get a better shot of Trump. | |||
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Objectively Reasonable |
I know several USSS guys who have risen to positions of responsibility despite being absolute mouth-breathing, window-licking idiots. Yeah, it's a limited sample size, but their "idiocy output" has been consistent for over 20 years-- from Day One at FLETC-- and that makes me believe that it's not just tolerated in the USSS but actually celebrated and cultivated. All of this makes me lean hard towards "Incompetence." | |||
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| Step by step walk the thousand mile road |
Dad: What did you buy a ladder for, son? Failed Assassin: To climb. Dad: Why do you want to climb it? Failed Assassin: Because its there. Dad: There? Where? Failed Assassin: Leaning against the only unprotected building roof overlooking Orangemanbad's rally Saturday. Nice is overrated "It's every freedom-loving individual's duty to lie to the government." Airsoftguy, June 29, 2018 | |||
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| Bookers Bourbon and a good cigar  |
 If you're goin' through hell, keep on going. Don't slow down. If you're scared don't show it. You might get out before the devil even knows you're there. NRA ENDOWMENT LIFE MEMBER | |||
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Oriental Redneck |
BREAKING NEWS Police officer shoots and kills armed suspect just outside the Republican convention in Milwaukee That's from the Daily Mail. I can't make the link, as I'm posting from my cell. Q | |||
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