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Now this announcement makes the USSS incompetence worse...

SO….. the dude was carrying a ladder, a rifle, and NOBODY on Trumps Security detail saw him?

Oh, they saw him. The local police also saw him. They had to hear him on the roof as they were inside looking out the windows...
They "called it in" when they saw him acting suspiciously and using a range finder.

The USSS just ignored it.

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Originally posted by sse:





• the day of the rally, Crooks went to a Home Depot and purchased a five-foot ladder
—— does that look like a 5ft ladder to you?

No, that does NOT look like a 5 foot ladder. Nor a 6 foot, nor even an 8 foot ladder. It is HUGE - look how the base flares out to the sides. There are at least 9 steps there - that is 10 foot or longer. No freaking WAY he could have gotten that thing onto/into his car and to the building without HUNDREDS of passers-by noticing. And I haven't heard of any eyewitnesses claiming they saw this guy dragging this beast of a ladder across the site.

I read here pages ago that he didn't even use a ladder to get onto the roof; that he climbed up a pile of rubble onto an AC unit onto a storage shed onto the roof. . . Maybe the cops used that huge ladder to get onto the roof?

Just too much stuff that doesn't make sense,

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Originally posted by 12131:

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Originally posted by justjoe:
Dana Perino on The Five just commented on how different Trump looks after the assassination attempt. He does look different.

The arrogance is gone.

He looks now like a servant.

Humbled and inspired.

Following a Greater Leader.

That's just too much BS. How the hell does one look like a servant? Two days after a near death experience, anyone will look and act different, I suspect. Reading any more into it is just bullshit sensationalism. He has always been a great leader.

What I saw last night was a man that was choked up by the love and affection he was receiving from the crowd. Yes he did look different.

That is at least a 10’ step ladder. Worked off of those thousands of times in my career.

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Originally posted by fischtown7:

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Originally posted by 12131:

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Originally posted by justjoe:
Dana Perino on The Five just commented on how different Trump looks after the assassination attempt. He does look different.

The arrogance is gone.

He looks now like a servant.

Humbled and inspired.

Following a Greater Leader.

That's just too much BS. How the hell does one look like a servant? Two days after a near death experience, anyone will look and act different, I suspect. Reading any more into it is just bullshit sensationalism. He has always been a great leader.

What I saw last night was a man that was choked up by the love and affection he was receiving from the crowd. Yes he did look different.

Yes, he does look like someone who is amazed at the amount of support he's getting from people around the globe, when the last 8 years have been nothing but massive attacks on him, the video is from backstage to his seat, and it appears at times he's holding back his emotions at times.



https://x.com/atensnut/status/1813033550373089573

It's a good thing she was the head of the Secret Service instead of the head of a roofing company.

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Originally posted by nhracecraft:

They should NOT get a pass, or even the slightest benefit of the doubt here! He was seen multiple times, and acting sketchy such that they even photographed him. He was seen with backpack (not a small one if it was the one pictured on the roof), AND using a rangefinder! Even most of the non-LEO members of SIGforum posting in this thread would've seen these as CLUEs requiring further investigation. SOMEBODY should've got their ass out of the AC and headed outside to confront him!

It is a complete indictment of leadership to place so much reliance on outsiders, even if they are LEOs. My point is that there was likely a terrible deficit of training and instruction for the "day labor". Example being the woman asking what they are doing and where are they going. Such a question should not have been necessary by any team member within the perimeter. But so many of them were not USSS and thus not ready for what happened.

At least one LEO did follow up and climb the roof. Others took a photo and radioed in to ... someone. My guess is there was a breakdown in command structure and for whatever reason (perhaps standing orders not to leave one's assigned post) the LEOs were waiting for instructions.

I expect they were instructed to call in anything suspicious. Until it turned into live fire, and then it was too late. It may turn out that too many of the LEOs performed below reasonable expectations, and they should face consequences. But leadership really holds the most responsibility. From those who determined how much USSS protection DJT would get, to those who may have failed on site.

If the soldier understands what he is to do, and fails to perform, it is his fault. If the soldier does not understand his task then it is the fault of his leaders.

12131:

"That's just too much BS. How the hell does one look like a servant? Roll Eyes Two days after a near death experience, anyone will look and act different, I suspect. Reading any more into it is just bullshit sensationalism. He has always been a great leader."

I'll see what I see, even if for some reason it gets you angry.

And I could not care less what you see.

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Originally posted by justjoe:
Dana Perino on The Five just commented on how different Trump looks after the assassination attempt. He does look different.

The arrogance is gone.

He looks now like a servant.

Humbled and inspired.

Following a Greater Leader.

Of course he looks different.

As someone who Death < Maxwell Smart voice > missed by that much on a dozen occasions, I can assure you each time you better understand your personal mortality. My last successful bit of Divine intervention in 2018 changed me in ways I am now only coming to understand.

As for a servant, a servant of the loving God who decided to turn his head, yeah. What else do you expect him to become?

Just to clarify:

Isn't the 'storage shed' referred to in an above post just a short connector for a passage/doors between those two buildings?

Sig2340:

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Of course he looks different.

As someone who Death < Maxwell Smart voice > missed by that much on a dozen occasions, I can assure you each time you better understand your personal mortality. My last successful bit of Divine intervention in 2018 changed me in ways I am now only coming to understand.

As for a servant, a servant of the loving God who decided to turn his head, yeah. What else do you expect him to become?

It's a good thing you don't disagree with me, like 12321.

"and now for something completely different" two shooters

https://x.com/MJTruthUltra/status/1813242070477287540



This does not look good…

Multiple Eye Witnesses say there was Another Shooter at the Trump Rally

Apparently, Jill Biden was responsible for getting Cheatle in as Director.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...rces-say/ar-BB1q1Gxj

The shooter on the water tower was one of the HS marksman team kids and was the one that took out Crooks, the USSS counter sniper actually shot the 5 foot Home Depot ladder and it was replaced by a 10 foot one for the photos for OSHA to examine the roof slope before agents entered the roof for the photo op with the departed Crooks.

The FBI has to have an idea what happened by now, do we have to wait until 2025 for all the wagons to be properly circled before everything comes out?

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Originally posted by oddball:
Apparently, Jill Biden was responsible for getting Cheatle in as Director.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...rces-say/ar-BB1q1Gxj

Yup. 17 pages ago.

https://sigforum.com/eve/forum...590017905#8590017905

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Originally posted by sse:
"and now for something completely different" two shooters
…

Where, the grassy knoll?

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Originally posted by Sig2340:

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Originally posted by sse:
"and now for something completely different" two shooters
…

Where, the grassy knoll?

They are all claiming the water tower. Open areas and metal buildings can be confusing sound wise. Sounds bounce very differently there. It even confuses the dog and wife to look the wrong way.

Why did it take so long to get cops on the roof you ask? Let me show you:

https://x.com/kylenabecker/status/1813298095494447197

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Originally posted by oddball:
Apparently, Jill Biden was responsible for getting Cheatle in as Director.

Perhaps it's obvious given my political ignorance. Has it been discussed why Jill had a say / influence / whatever in this decision? What competencies does Jill have in the selection of a Director? Why is she even involved even if she has competencies, and especially if she doesn't? On what real basis was she Cheatle chosen; who were the other candidates? And were any of the other candidates better choices?