"Before COVID, I told you medical errors killed the equivalent of three Boeing 747s packed full of patients every day. Medicine is not perfect. Doctors are not perfect. This vaccine is not perfect. Yet we are mandating every single American get on board a single aircraft piloted by bureaucrats and administrators who are unfit to fly the aircraft. They need to be grounded. These are not leaders. They are administrators faithfully implementing policies. There is one narrative, that the vaccines are safe and effective, but neither are true."

Is Our Military Being Used as Vaccine Guinea Pigs? A Flight Surgeon's Testimony Will Make You Wonder

https://pjmedia.com/news-and-p...-you-wonder-n1530723

Germany Advises Against Moderna Shot for Young People Over Rare Heart Condition

https://www.theepochtimes.com/...ndition_4096882.html

German health authorities followed other European nations on Wednesday in advising against the use of Moderna’s Spikevax COVID-19 vaccine for people under the age of 30 after evidence emerged the shot has a slightly higher risk of cardiac inflammation.

A German advisory committee, known as STIKO, cited findings similar to a study published on Nov. 8 by France’s Epi-Phare, showing that vaccines using mRNA technology were associated with an increased risk of hospitalization for myocarditis (inflammation of the heart muscle), and pericarditis (inflammation of the tissue surrounding the heart), in younger patients—with a slightly higher prevalence in those who received Moderna.

STIKO recommended that Germans in this age group should only receive the BioNTech/Pfizer vaccine as it causes fewer cases of heart inflammations. The committee also recommended that pregnant women should be inoculated only with the BioNTech/Pfizer vaccine, regardless of their age.

STIKO made no mention of the COVID-19 vaccines from AstraZeneca and Johnson & Johnson.

The German health officials adjusted their CCP (Chinese Communist Party) virus vaccination guidance just one day after French health authorities also recommended the Pfizer jab over Moderna’s due to similar heart disease concerns. They stressed the risk of developing the heart condition is “very rare,” according to a translated statement posted on the French National Authority for Health (HAS).

The recommendations in Germany are based on new safety data from the Paul Ehrlich Institute (PEI), the country’s authority in charge of vaccines, and new international data.

The German PEI data showed a “report rate” for heart inflammations of 11.71 per 100,000 shots with the Moderna vaccine for men in the 18–29 age group, compared with 4.68 for the BioNTech/Pfizer shot. For women, the rate was 2.95 with Moderna and 0.97 with BioNTech/Pfizer.

In the 12–17 age group, the rate was 11.41 for males with the Moderna shot compared with 4.81 for BioNTech/Pfizer. There was no data provided for females in the lower age group.

On Tuesday, Moderna sought conditional marketing authorization with the European Medicines Agency (EMA) for use of a 50 micrograms dose vaccine in children aged 6 to 11.

EMA said on Wednesday they expect to respond with a decision in about two months. Moderna has also sought U.S. authorization of its vaccine for use in teens in June and is awaiting a decision by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration.

“The current timeline for evaluation foresees an opinion in approximately 2 months, unless supplementary information or analysis is needed,” EMA said in a statement.

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Thank you Sir.
Good information.

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Here are some of the quick key points that struck me:

1. Supplements (ie - vit C/D, zinc, etc) are valuable in both prevention and treatment. But be mindful of dosage.

2. Hyperthermia (ie - fever like conditions) can be valuable as early treatment. Don't treat fevers up to about 103F. As prevention/treatment and to enhance monocyte (etc) response, hot baths / saunas (20-30 min of sweating) can be valuable.

3. Innate immune response and comorbidities seem influential in outcome. Younger have better probabilities.

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President Shit-My-Pants and all his handlers must not want to have jobs after this term in office because they are creating a backlash that is going to be biblical in proportion:
White House Won't Rule Out Mandating Vaccine For Domestic Air Travel

And soon after, we’ll have to ante up for an airline bailout again. They’d be sunk with a domestic air travel vaccine mandate.

Funny you mention that because I'll bet you money an auto bailout is in the works as we speak given the supply chain issues and all the partially completed, now prior year, vehicles sitting around all over the country.

Bill Gates Quote:
“We didn’t have vaccines that block transmission.
We got vaccines that help you with your health, but they only slightly reduce the transmission.
We need a new way of doing the vaccines.”

Link

May I respectfully recommend a new way of doing the vaccines.
It would be easy to implement as it would only affect a limited number of people.
If Bill Gates would be willing to submit to the advancement of vaccinations, it would only involve one of his bodily orficies.

Isn’t there a meme out there : ‘I remember when Gates used to write viruses and then sell virus scanners to find and fix them. Good times. I wonder what he’s up to now?’

Germany now France.

COVID-19: People under 30 should not get Moderna vaccine - France

https://www.jpost.com/breaking...accine-france-684457

Moderna Inc applied for European authorization of its COVID-19 vaccine in children aged 6-11 years, weeks after it delayed a similar filing with US regulators.

France's public health authority has recommended people under 30 be given Pfizer's Comirnaty COVID-19 vaccine when available instead of Moderna's Spikevax jab, which carried comparatively higher risks of heart-related problems.
The Haute Autorite de Sante (HAS), which does not have legal power to ban or license drugs but acts as an advisor to the French health sector, cited "very rare" risks linked to Myocarditis, a heart disease, that had shown up in recent data on the Moderna vaccine and in a French study published on Monday.

"Within the population aged under 30, this risk appears to be around five times lesser with Pfizer's Comirnaty jab compared to Moderna's Spikevax jab," HAS said in its opinion published on Monday.

The decision in Paris came after regulators in several other countries, including Canada, Finland and Sweden, had also taken a more defensive stance on Spikevax over heart-related safety concerns affecting younger people.

The European Union's drug regulator EMA last month approved Moderna's booster vaccine for all age groups over 18, at least six months after the second dose.

The EMA earlier this year said that it had found a possible link between the very rare inflammatory heart condition and COVID-19 vaccines from both Pfizer's and Moderna's vaccines.

However, according to the EMA, the benefits of both mRNA shots in preventing COVID-19 continue to outweigh the risks, the regulator said, echoing similar views expressed by US regulators and the World Health Organization.

France's HAS said that its recommendation, which would apply regardless of the vaccine's use as a first, second or third "booster" dose, would be valid until more scientific findings on the matter are known.

For persons aged over 30, however, the authority explicitly recommended the use of the Moderna vaccine, saying its effectiveness was slightly superior.

Moderna Inc on Tuesday applied for European authorization of its COVID-19 vaccine in children aged 6-11 years, weeks after it delayed a similar filing with US regulators.

The European Union had in July authorized the vaccine for use in teens aged 12 to 17 years, but several countries including Sweden paused its use for people aged 30 and younger due to rare heart-related side-effects.

Moderna said in late October the US drugs regulator needed more time to complete its review for use in the 12-17 age group as it studies the risk of a type of heart inflammation called myocarditis after vaccination.

The drugmaker delayed the US application for children aged 6 to 11, while the FDA completes its review for the vaccine's use in the 12-17 age group.

Earlier in October, the company said its vaccine generated a strong immune response in children aged six to 11 years and that it plans to submit the data to global regulators soon.

Moderna said on Tuesday it had applied to the European Medicines Agency for use of a 50 micrograms dose of the vaccine in children, half the strength used in the adult vaccinations.

Moderna testing COVID-19 vaccine on infants nationwide despite 'negligible' risk from virus

https://justthenews.com/politi..._campaign=newsletter

Vaccine safety pioneer challenges trial leader's claim about COVID risk to children under age 1.

The Moderna COVID-19 vaccine is being tested on infants across the country, even as medical experts question the wisdom of moving so fast on novel vaccine development in a population with such low risk from COVID.

Seventy-nine locations in 31 states are listed as participating in the so-called KidCOVE study, which started with children ages 6 to "less than 12," followed by ages 2 to less than 6, and finally 6 months to less than 2 years.

The infant trials have received sporadic media attention. CBS Miami and WCNC Charlotte ran features on local infant participants a month ago, followed by features last week for Colorado's KDVR and Oklahoma's Fox 23.

New attention came Monday when the University of Wisconsin medical school announced that "dozens" of children under age 6 were participating in its trial at American Family Children's Hospital.

The ages 5-11 trial in Madison was full just days after enrollment opened in August, the med school said. About 4 in 5 participants in its Moderna trials are from "underserved populations meaning they might face barriers based on race, ethnicity, income, geography and health outcomes."

"Our very youngest children need to get the vaccine and we need to make sure they are safe," said Dr. Bill Hartman, co-principal investigator of its KidCOVE trial.

The announcement came less than a week after the CDC approved the Pfizer vaccine for children ages 5-11, and two weeks after FDA approval.

More than 13,000 children will receive "up to 3 dose levels" of the vaccine or a placebo, according to Moderna's KidCOVE summary. Excluded from eligibility: children with a "known history" of COVID infection or "close contact" with an infected person within two weeks of the trial, as well as those who have received monoclonal antibodies in the past six months.

Asked about the ethical implications of testing a vaccine on a population at such low risk, especially relative to their risk from seasonal influenza, Hartman wrote in an email that "many kids" have developed COVID due to the Delta variant.

"This kept them out of daycare, out of school, and/or they went on to infect the people around them, including immunocompromised relatives," he said, claiming 30,000 children were hospitalized in August.

He compared child COVID deaths to date — nearly 600 — with the flu season directly before COVID, which killed 188. COVID is arguably in its third season, having circulated in the U.S. as early as December 2019.

"Babies under age 1 might be at higher risk of severe illness with COVID-19 than older children, likely due to their immature immune systems and smaller airways, which make them more likely to develop breathing issues with respiratory virus infections," Hartman wrote.

He didn't respond to a subsequent query about the documented difficulty of young children transmitting COVID; why he compared multiple seasons of COVID to one flu season; or a request for the underlying health of children who died from the flu versus COVID.

Brain development risk

Harvard Medical School epidemiologist Martin Kulldorff, a pioneer in vaccine safety and vocal critic of White House COVID advisor Anthony Fauci, reviewed Hartman's responses at the request of Just the News.

It's true that children are "about as likely to be infected as adults," including from Delta, but there's "more than a thousand-fold difference in mortality risk between the old and the young," he wrote in an email. The risk is "minuscule" even for children under one.

It's wrong to blame the infection for keeping them out of school, "since most children are either asymptomatic or only mildly symptomatic," he said. "What kept them out of school were the misguided pandemic restrictions."

They are also "not major spreaders of COVID," and vaccination is "not a burden that we should put on children" when older, high-risk people can be protected through vaccination, Kulldorff said.

He emphasized the CDC has never studied how many of the reported child COVID deaths were incidental to the virus versus caused by it; the 576 deaths cover the entire 0-17 age range; and flu season deaths among children vary widely from year to year.

Shortly before the FDA's Pfizer approval last month, experimental drug researchers cited "urgent reasons to apply the brakes" on broadly vaccinating children against COVID.

An anti-miscarriage medication commonly prescribed in the 1940s "was recalled 30 years later after it was connected to a rare tumor that appeared in the next generation of daughters of women who had taken it," Larry Kwak, Steven Rosen and Idit Shachar wrote in The Washington Times.

They cited unknown long-term risks of mRNA vaccines, whose active viral sequences and inactive manufacturing ingredients do not have "a prior favorable safety track record in healthy adults or children." Due to their developing brains, the latter face "potential consequences of vaccines crossing the natural blood-brain barrier," and they have safer treatments available.

Kwak and Rosen, both hematologist-oncologists, lead the comprehensive cancer center at California's City of Hope, which is funded by the National Cancer Institute. Rosen pioneered monoclonal antibody treatments, while Time named Kwak one of its "100 most influential people in the world" for his pioneering cancer vaccine research.

Their affiliation is not mentioned in the op-ed. City of Hope told Just the News it referred queries to the doctors but did not answer why it left them off its COVID experts page, which includes another hematologist-oncologist.

Kwak told Just the News the case for vaccinating infants was even weaker, "especially given the growing number of reasonable alternatives" with longer safety records, such as monoclonal antibodies and antiviral pills "related to Tamiflu."

He warned that classifying these "genetic therapies" as "vaccines" shields manufacturers from liability for "unanticipated long-term complications." Congress must "drastically" reform the existing vaccine injury compensation program, which rejects nearly all claims, "given the social pressure being put on the individual at this moment to take the treatment."

International researchers questioned the need to vaccinate children, whose vaccine trials had "poor predictive power because of their small size," in the Elsevier medical journal Toxicology Reports in September.

"COVID-19 attributed deaths per capita are negligible in children," while their "normalized post-inoculation deaths are small, but not negligible," they wrote. The trials ignored "changes in biomarkers that could serve as early warning indicators" and "long-term effects that, if serious, would be borne by children/adolescents for potentially decades."

Under a "novel best-case scenario cost-benefit analysis," there are "very conservatively" five times more deaths "attributable to each inoculation vs those attributable to COVID-19 in the most vulnerable 65+ demographic," they wrote.

One of the best book on vitamins is "Fortify Your Life, Your Guide to Vitamins, Minerals, and More" by Tieraona Low Dog.

Also a book by Dr. Joel K Kahn, "The Whole Heart Solution", is a worthy book to have in your library.

The Life Extension Foundation magazine featured virus prevention in their June and July 2020 issues available in PDF:

https://www.lifeextension.com/magazine/2020

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Moderna testing COVID-19 vaccine on infants nationwide despite 'negligible' risk from virus.

This is nothing less than evil. The parents that sacrifice their children to this are disgusting trash.

In the U.K. 70% of Covid admissions are fully vaxxed. 80% of hospital Covid deaths are fully vaxxed.

UK Vaccine Mandate May Force 123,000 Out Of Health Care Sector

Authored by Alexander Zhang via The Epoch Times,

The UK’s COVID-19 vaccine mandate for front-line health and social care staff in England may force more than 120,000 people to leave the sector, according to government estimates.

Health Secretary Sajid Javid announced on Tuesday that all those working in the National Health Service (NHS) and social care must get fully vaccinated to continue in their jobs from April 1, 2022.

The Department of Health and Social Care (DHSC) said the mandate will apply to health and social care workers who have “direct, face-to-face contact” with patients—such as doctors, nurses, dentists, and domiciliary care workers, unless they are exempt.

The rule will also apply to porters or receptionists who may have social contact with patients.

The policy is intended to “avoid preventable harm and protect patients in the NHS, protect colleagues in the NHS, and of course protect the NHS itself,” Javid told the House of Commons on Tuesday.

In an impact assessment (pdf), also published on Tuesday, the government estimated that around 54,000 medical and social care staff will take up the offer of a jab as a result of the vaccine mandate.

But it admitted that the policy could have a “significant impact” on the health and care workforce and could result in as many as 123,000 staff members leaving their jobs.

The government’s impact statement estimates that by the end of the grace period around 88,000 health workers, including 73,000 NHS staff, and 35,000 social care workers will remain unvaccinated.

The statement warned that “any reduction in the numbers of health and social care staff may lead to reduced or delayed services” at a time when the UK health system is “stretched with an elective waiting list of 5.72 million and high levels of vacancies.”

The impact report also estimates that the “cost of replacing unvaccinated workers is £270 million ($365 million).”

The main opposition Labour party said it wants to see NHS staff vaccinated but advised the government to “proceed with caution” given possible staff shortages.

Shadow health secretary Jon Ashworth said on Tuesday that NHS trusts are concerned that the policy “could exacerbate some of these chronic understaffing problems,” adding “we simply cannot afford to lose thousands of NHS staff overnight.”

Also on Tuesday, officials in Northern Ireland announced that plans for a public consultation on mandatory COVID-19 and flu vaccination for new recruits to the health and social care workforce in the province.

But the Welsh and Scottish governments are not planning to introduce mandated vaccines for health and social care staff.

https://www.zerohedge.com/poli...t-health-care-sector

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Moderna testing COVID-19 vaccine on infants nationwide despite 'negligible' risk from virus.

This is nothing less than evil. The parents that sacrifice their children to this are disgusting trash.

Mengele lives! Imo this is about eliminating as much of a control group as possible for a generation. Who is the trusted watchdog on this? Who is going to report if infants have severe reactions or worse death? Oh we might hear about one or two, some parent steps forward but it will be painted as a one in 10 million freak chance.

We have a thread with seven pages of people here who have been vaccinated reporting hardly anything but a sore arm for the vast majority of them and I hope it continues that way. I don't think anyone of them is a year out from having taken it so to me it's rather meaningless at this point. I think we are years away from having the possibility of knowing any if at all wide range effects of the vaccine. The smaller the control group the more difficult to produce comparative meaningful data down the road. That is if any honest and trustworthy entity is allowed to put forth any data.

Despite Vaccine Passport Schemes, COVID Cases Surging Across Europe

While no lockdown, no mandate Sweden is doing just fine.

Paul Joseph Watson

Despite vaccine passport schemes and high vaccination rates in many of the countries affected, COVID cases across Europe are surging once again.

New coronavirus cases in Germany topped the 50,000 mark for the first time, with authorities pushing for the imposition of more restrictions on top of the ones that haven’t worked.

As Will Jones writes, “A late autumn surge in reported Covid infections is underway in Europe, with spikes in Austria, Netherlands, Denmark, Germany, Switzerland and Norway, and the possible beginnings of one in France, Portugal and Italy. This is despite high vaccine coverage and the heavy use of vaccine passports in most of these countries including Germany, Netherlands, Austria, Switzerland, Italy and France.”

Jones notes that there is no new variant of the virus causing the spike and that virtually all of these countries already experienced a surge due to the delta variant.



Since all these countries have relatively high vaccination rates, one can only assume that the new surge is partly due to the waning effectiveness of vaccines.

As we highlighted yesterday, a choir concert in Germany that allowed only fully vaccinated or recovered people to attend, banning those who are unvaccinated but could provide a negative test, resulted in a COVID-19 outbreak that infected at least 24 people.

One place where COVID cases and deaths remain low compared to other European countries is Sweden, which never imposed a hard lockdown and has no vaccine passport scheme or mask mandate.

You’d think there might be a lesson in that.

But apparently, the very existence of “herd immunity” is now a ‘dangerous conspiracy theory’.



https://summit.news/2021/11/11...rging-across-europe/

Well I just received the email stating, since I am not vaccinated, I need to work with my manager to transition my in office duties to others and work remotely until Jan 18th when we return to the office.

I have been working from home since this all started, but now I don't need to respond to calls when the network is down.

Hospital Allows Ivermectin for Dying COVID-19 Patient After Court Admonishes It

An Illinois hospital defied an emergency court order over the weekend, refusing to allow an unvaccinated outside physician to give the cheap drug ivermectin to a COVID-19 patient who was dying while being treated with expensive remdesivir, before finally relenting after being scolded by a judge.

Article by Matthew Vadum from our premium news partners at The Epoch Times.

Some other hospitals have been ordered by courts to allow the drug to be used.

The legal fight in the Illinois state court system comes as studies continue on the effectiveness of ivermectin in treating COVID-19. The costly drug remdesivir has been given emergency use authorization by the U.S. Food and Drug Administration for treating certain categories of patients hospitalized with COVID-19.

Sun Ng, 71, who was visiting the United States from Hong Kong to celebrate his granddaughter’s first birthday, became ill with COVID-19 and was hospitalized at Edward Hospital in Naperville, Illinois, on Oct. 14. His condition worsened dramatically and he was intubated and placed on a ventilator a few days later.

Ng’s daughter, Man Kwan Ng, who holds a doctorate in mechanical engineering, did her own research and decided her father should get ivermectin, which some medical doctors believe is potentially effective against COVID-19.

But against the daughter’s wishes, the hospital refused to administer the drug, and denied access to a physician willing to administer it. The daughter, who holds a power of attorney to make medical decisions on her father’s behalf, hired Chicago law firm Mauck and Baker and New York law firm Parlato Law, which is handling ivermectin litigation throughout the United States.

Attorney Kirstin M. Erickson of Mauck and Baker said the case “is about a daughter who wants to save her dad’s life.”

“Ivermectin has been highly effective and used in humans for over 30 years,” she told The Epoch Times in an interview. Resistance to its use is because “it’s not part of the, quote, standard of care in hospitals.”

“They’ve given him the treatment they give at the hospital, which is remdesivir, and that was ineffective, and he’s been on the ventilator for almost three weeks now,” the lawyer said.

“What I’ve learned in these cases is that ivermectin costs between $1 and $3 a pill where something like remdesivir is $3,000” per dose, she said.

“There could be some financial backing here, politically, other things motivating it,” Erickson said. “I don’t know what it is.”

The daughter went to court on her father’s behalf.

On Nov. 1, Judge Paul M. Fullerton of the Circuit Court of DuPage County granted a temporary restraining order requiring the hospital to allow ivermectin to be given to the patient.

The daughter, an only child, had been denied access to her father but at some point the same week, the hospital allowed her to see her father, Erickson said in the interview.

Although the hospital had been claiming the patient was doing well, it was clear he was not, the lawyer said, so the daughter took a picture of her desperately ill father on Nov. 4 and showed the graphic photograph to the judge to drive home the need for a new treatment plan.

At an evidentiary hearing before Fullerton on Nov. 5, it was pointed out that the preliminary injunction that the daughter was seeking was an extraordinary remedy. The judge said he agreed.

“I can’t think of a more extraordinary situation than when we are talking about a man’s life,” Fullerton said, according to court records.

Ng was admitted Oct. 14 and went on a respirator about Oct. 18, the judge recounted. “There is no dispute from the testimony of the doctors … that his risk of dying is over 50 percent.”

One physician testified that someone in Ng’s situation, which the judge described as “basically on his death bed,” has only a 10 to 15 percent of survival, the judge said.
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Ivermectin “is not an FDA approved drug [sic],” Fullerton said.

In fact, ivermectin is approved for human use by the FDA, but not against COVID-19.

Certain formulations of ivermectin “are approved in the U.S. to treat or prevent parasites in animals. For humans, ivermectin tablets are approved at very specific doses to treat some parasitic worms” and other ailments, according to the FDA’s website.

Although “currently available data do not show ivermectin is effective against COVID-19,” there are clinical human trials in progress.

Ivermectin can have minor side effects such as dizziness, itchy skin, and diarrhea at the dosage suggested for Ng, Fullerton said, but the “risks of these side effects are so minimal that Mr. Ng’s current situation outweighs that risk by one-hundredfold.”

The judge issued a preliminary injunction Nov. 5 directing the hospital to “immediately allow … temporary emergency privileges” to Ng’s physician, Dr. Alan Bain, “solely to administer Ivermectin to this patient.”

Bain has treated many COVID-19 patients with ivermectin. Asked if the drug was responsible for saving the life of a specific patient he had successfully treated, he told Trial Site News in June: “I believe it had a very strong impact. It was a good addition to everything else. Ivermectin is the real deal.”

The hospital resisted the order Nov. 6 and 7, denying Bain access to his patient. The hospital claimed it could not let Bain in because he was not vaccinated against COVID-19 and that its chief medical officer was not available to “proctor” Bain administering ivermectin.

The daughter’s lawyers filed an emergency report with the court early Nov. 8 and Fullerton heard briefly from both sides. The judge admonished the hospital and restated that it must allow Bain inside over a period of 15 days to do his job. When the hospital filed a motion to stay the order, Fullerton denied it, again directing the facility to comply.

Erickson said Sun Ng is already improving with Ivermectin treatment. Ng passed a 60-minute breathing test that he could only previously tolerate for 5 minutes, she said.

“There’s been improvement already and we’re hoping for full recovery as soon as possible.”

Erickson said she hoped Fullerton’s ruling “will encourage hospitals to modify their COVID-protocols to incorporate more innovative drugs like ivermectin so that more lives are saved.”

https://noqreport.com/2021/11/...court-admonishes-it/

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When is the AMA going to wake up and smell the friggin' Colombian roast??? "Do no harm". Yeah right. They're operating under the Hypocritical Oath.

This past Saturday, my wife and I attended the reunion and muster at the Navy UDT/SEAL museum in Ft Pierce, Florida. There were over 3000 people in attendance. Hugging, handshakes, kisses, sitting crammed on to bleachers for the event. We saw maybe 5 or 6 people wearing a mask, no social distancing, no hand sanitizer stations, just people living in the minute.

I got the email from my employer.

I need some help so that I can make an educated decision based on unbiased information and statistics (not the gov propaganda).

I'm not getting the mRNA. That's currently a hard no for now. Weekly testing doesn't look like an option (employer needs to comply as a federal contractor).

Details for med/religious exemptions are still pending. I will pursue that to the fullest.

But the forced alternative may be J&J. I need to learn current status and risks associated with the J&J shot and could use some help to reliable references.

If I were single, I would just find another job (although may be difficult around here and given my age and proximity to retirement). But I'm not financially able to retire and I need to care for my family. So in the event that exemptions are not available to me, I need to understand and assess the benefits/risks of unemployment vs the J&J shot.

I could really use some help with the latter.

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I got the email from my employer.

I need some help so that I can make an educated decision based on unbiased information and statistics (not the gov propaganda).

I'm not getting the mRNA. That's currently a hard no for now. Weekly testing doesn't look like an option (employer needs to comply as a federal contractor).

Details for med/religious exemptions are still pending. I will pursue that to the fullest.

But the forced alternative may be J&J. I need to learn current status and risks associated with the J&J shot and could use some help to reliable references.

If I were single, I would just find another job (although may be difficult around here and given my age and proximity to retirement). But I'm not financially able to retire and I need to care for my family. So in the event that exemptions are not available to me, I need to understand and assess the benefits/risks of unemployment vs the J&J shot.

I could really use some help with the latter.

Are you concerned about the vaccine or the mandate? I'm barely concerned about the vaccine dangers, I'm more concerned about my privacy. I've taken the vaccine, bit I've told my managers they can either shove a qtip up my nose or fire me, but I'm not providing my medical records for an unjust proclamation.