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Team Biden’s shady vaccine mandate wordplay

When it comes to President Joe Biden’s vaccine mandate, it looks like the entire administration is descending into dementia.

On Friday, White House Deputy Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre insisted that it’s “misinformation” to call it a mandate, since private employers wouldn’t have to fire workers who instead submit to weekly testing: It’s just a “requirement” on workplaces with 100 or more staff. And never mind that Biden himself called it a “mandate” in his speech announcing it two months ago.

Then Surgeon-General Vivek Murthy on Sunday suggested the mandate could expand to cover smaller businesses, insisting that a “vax or no job” rule is a “necessary step to accelerate our pathway out of the pandemic.”

Meanwhile, the courts look unlikely to let it ever take effect: On Saturday, the 5th Circuit Court put a stay on it, expressing clear doubt that the Occupational Safety & Health Administration has the authority to impose it as a “workplace safety” measure.

And that’s just one lawsuit; others come from 26 states and a host of private groups.

As we noted Saturday, you can make a public-safety argument for local governments to mandate their workers, and some private employers may also see a need.

But Biden’s talk weeks ago of an “emergency” order on most employers that’s now supposed to kick in four months after he announced it was purely a cynical stunt that’s failed to fly with the broader public. No wonder it has his people all over the map as they they talk about it.

https://nypost.com/2021/11/08/...ne-mandate-wordplay/



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Meanwhile, the courts look unlikely to let it ever take effect: On Saturday, the 5th Circuit Court put a stay on it, expressing clear doubt that the Occupational Safety & Health Administration has the authority to impose it as a “workplace safety” measure.

I have no confidence in this at all. The only court that matters is the Supreme Court and there are only 3 justices that have proven to be conservative (Thomas, Gorsuch, and Alito). I'm a pessimist and I think the other purported conservatives will rule that all these Covid mandates and mitigations are at the whim of elected officials. They're going to let the voice of the people decide in the form of their vote, and that scares the shit out of me.



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Rumors are that Newsom developed Guillain-Barre syndrome or Bell's Palsy after getting the shot.
I got hit hard with Guillain Barré after a regular flu shot, maybe five or six years ago. Symptoms appeared about six weeks after the flu shot. I was hospitalized for a bit over a week, had a couple of IVIG transfusions, months of physical therapy to get me off the walker and waking with just a cane for balance.

My hands were so weak that I had to ask strangers to open the cap for me so that I could fuel my car at the gas station.

Years later, I'm probably 80% recovered, still no feeling in my finger tips, leading me to drop things several times each day. Balance sucks, I have fallen in the driveway and in the back yard, unable to get up by myself. Wife bought me an Apple Watch with fall detection.

Guillain Barré sucks. I wouldn't wish it on anyone, not even Newsom or Biden.



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Happy Thanksgiving: “You’re fired!”

Internal Report: More Than Half Of Border Patrol Agents May Be Fired For Being Unvaccinated

By Steve Watson of Summit News

An internal report from within the US Customs and Border Protection agency suggests that more than half the border patrol workforce remains unvaccinated, and that if vaccine mandates are implemented it could leave just 8000 officers on duty.

The document, obtained by Fox News, notes that 48 percent of agents have not registered their vaccination status, and of the 52 percent who have done that, ten percent are unvaccinated.

Former chief operating officer of CBP Mark Morgan, who obtained the internal report, told Fox News that Biden’s vaccine mandate is “going to take an agency that’s already gone through an unbelievable catastrophic crisis on the southwest border and deplete its resources further.”

Morgan also provided a screenshot from the report showing tables of different scenarios of depletion within the CBP.

The screenshot highlights that “in the worst-case scenario, agents who have not reported their status have done so because they refuse to take the jab, and so they will be terminated (scenario 3). In that case, net attrition could exceed 11,523 agents, leaving a mere 8,013 border agents on patrol.”

If this scenario unfolds, it is likely that the border patrol would lose 59 percent of its workforce.

Imagine how that would affect the already rampantly out of control border crisis.

If the 10,000 or so border patrol agents who have yet to register their vaccination status do not do so this week, they will be offered counseling, then suspension, then termination, Morgan further noted, emphasising how the document “illustrates the potential impact that this mandate could have on the workforce.”

“So, an agency that is dealing with 1.7 million apprehensions, 400,000 got-aways, at that very moment, the same resources are going to be pulled away and distracted to deal with this mandate nonsense,” Morgan urged, adding that the counseling involves further “critical resources,” because border patrol leadership is involved.

“It’s a cumbersome process and it’s an unneeded unnecessary distraction while they’re overwhelmed and our border is out of control,” Morgan continued, adding:

“An illegal immigrant doesn’t get the vaccine and they’re released. A border patrol agent doesn’t get the vaccine and they’re removed. On what planet does that make sense?”

The vaccination deadline for federal employees is November 22nd.

https://www.zerohedge.com/poli...d-being-unvaccinated



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-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

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^^^ Rumors are that Newsom developed Guillain-Barre syndrome or Bell's Palsy after getting the shot.

Gosh, that would be a tragedy if he survived the recall only to be felled by the experimental death jab.
 
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President Shit-My-Pants and all his handlers must not want to have jobs after this term in office because they are creating a backlash that is going to be biblical in proportion:

White House Won't Rule Out Mandating Vaccine For Domestic Air Travel


 
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Food for thought. And maybe dissidence.
Have grounds for precedence already been laid?
Maybe not so "flippant", the left hoist on its own petard?

"I am not vaccinated, but I identify as someone who is vaccinated,” read a comment at the end of a recent article on vaccine mandates. Though doubtless intending to be flippant, the reader has a point—and possibly a legal claim.

The reader’s vaccination status could be verified by a new blood test. Is it possible that scientific and medical tests could verify the actual status of someone who “identifies” in a condition at odds with reality? ...


Reality Dysphoria




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President Shit-My-Pants and all his handlers must not want to have jobs after this term in office because they are creating a backlash that is going to be biblical in proportion:
White House Won't Rule Out Mandating Vaccine For Domestic Air Travel

And soon after, we’ll have to ante up for an airline bailout again. They’d be sunk with a domestic air travel vaccine mandate.


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I’ve been saying since day one that the airlines would never mandate the vaccine. Ever. It would be suicide. They’ll likely not be very happy about the crooked leftists stepping in to do it either.




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Feds Seek to Block Promotion of a Nasal Spray Against COVID-19

https://www.theepochtimes.com/...m_campaign=ZeroHedge

The leading U.S. manufacturer of xylitol-based products says the federal government is deliberately trying to conceal a nasal spray it developed that it says has been scientifically proven to be effective in treating and preventing COVID-19.

The U.S. Department of Justice filed a lawsuit in federal court against Utah-based company Xlear on Oct. 28, saying it has deceptively advertised its nasal spray as a treatment and preventative of COVID-19.

The lawsuit asks a federal court to permanently ban the company from promoting the nasal spray as a treatment for COVID-19 and also asks that monetary penalties be levied against it.

COVID-19 is the disease caused by the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) virus, commonly known as the novel coronavirus.

The DOJ filed the complaint on behalf of the Federal Trade Commission, which alleges the company has violated the Federal Trade Commission Act and the Consumer Protection Act by making false claims about the benefits.

The spray’s main ingredients are saline, grapefruit seed extract, and xylitol, a plant-derived sweetener commonly used in oral care products.

“Companies can’t make unsupported health claims, no matter what form a product takes, or what it supposedly prevents or treats,” said Samuel Levine, director of the trade commission’s Bureau of Consumer Protection, said in a press release on the lawsuit.

“That’s the lesson of this case and many others like it, and it’s why people should continue to rely on medical professionals over ads.”

The commission and the Justice Department declined to make any further comment.

Xlear’s attorney Robert Housman, of the Washington firm Book Hill Partners, told The Epoch Times that the commission is “flat out lying” about the company’s claims being unsupported.

Housman pointed out that the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases (NIAID)—along with the National Institutes of Health (NIH), an arm of the Department of Health and Human Services—funded clinical studies of the use of nasal sprays like Xlear’s and published findings last year that found they were an effective treatment and method of prevention for COVID-19.

“When Xlear tells people about scientific studies, even ones republished by the NIH, we are somehow misleading people and making false claims. It’s nonsensical,” Housman told The Epoch Times. “Rather than embrace nasal interventions, the government is trying to eliminate their use because they don’t fit the government’s highly flawed, vaccine-only agenda.”

On Sept. 20, 2020, the NIH and NIAID published the findings of a random clinical trial they funded at the Vanderbilt University Medical Center in Tennessee on the merits of using hypertonic nasal saline irrigations to combat the CCP virus.

The researchers in that study wrote that the “effect of nasal irrigation on symptom resolution was substantial,” reporting that “nasal congestion and headaches in COVID patients resolved an average seven to nine days earlier” in the study group.

“Our analysis suggests that nasal irrigations may shorten symptom duration and may have potential as a widely available and inexpensive intervention to reduce disease burden among those affected,” the researchers wrote in their findings.

“We would advocate the use of hypertonic nasal saline irrigations in non-hospitalized COVID-19 patients as a safe and inexpensive intervention to reduce symptom burden.”

Housman pointed out that the NIH also published the results of a clinical trial, held a few months later in November at the Larkin Community Hospital in Florida, that found the Xlear nasal spray specifically cleared symptoms of the disease in half the time.

In addition to the Tennessee and Florida trials, another random clinical trial—more recently conducted at Augusta University’s Emergency Department in Georgia—also concluded that the use of nasal spray was beneficial in treating COVID-19.

Researchers in the university trial, which is still ongoing, have so far found that patients with the CCP virus that participated in daily nasal irrigation were eight times less likely to be hospitalized than the national rate.

The Justice Department didn’t specifically cite the Larkin, Vanderbilt, or Augusta trials in its lawsuit.

It instead cited the results of lab studies conducted earlier at the University of North Carolina–Chapel Hill and the University of Tennessee involving in vitro and animal testing, neither of which the DOJ and FTC argue is a viable way to test nasal spray for live, human COVID-19 patients.

The lawsuit additionally pointed out that the University of Tennessee study is based on a nasal spray containing iota-carrageenan, which the Xlear spray does not contain and, therefore, cannot be used as scientific evidence to support Xlear’s claims.

The lawsuit also stated that researchers at Chapel Hill admitted that without further research it couldn’t conclusively determine that “administering treatment through the nose is the best way to treat COVID-19.”

Housman said the trade commission cherry-picked findings within the lab studies to make them fit its agenda.

The federal government has warned companies against promoting nasal sprays for the treatment and prevention of COVID-19.

BlueWillow Biologics, a Michigan biopharmaceutical company that manufactures a nasal antiseptic, and the Miami-based company Halodine, which created a proprietary iodine-based nasal antiseptic swab, both received warning letters earlier this year from the FDA to discontinue their promotion of their nasal products as a safe and effective treatment for COVID-19.


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Sounds like Xlear did more testing and conducted more clinical trials on this nasal spray treatment than ANY of the "vaccine" manufacturers performed on their poison dart juice. Just sayin'......



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More and more it seems that the Government is the Enemy of the People...Wholly Incompetent and/or Corrupt, wielding Power because they can, and as they see fit! Roll Eyes


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My daughter who works in the public school system called me last night and was extremely pissed off. Seems a elementary school in a neighboring district started a program where children that are eligible for the vaccine bring in a card or note saying the have an appointment to get the vaccine will get a pajama day. They can wear their pajamas for a casual school day. Once they get the vaccine and bring in their card the get a ice cream treat and are eligible for a field trip later in the year to a nature center.

Of course kids who parents choose not to get them vaccinated get none of this. My daughter said a friend of hers kid came home from school in a crying melt down because she can't wear pajamas and gets no ice cream. And of course she wants to go to the doctor to get a note so she can wear pajamas, get ice cream and go on the trip.

People who think of setting up programs like this that mess with a young child's psyche in this way have no business being around kids in any capacity. The leftist mindset is astoundingly void of any common sense or critical thinking.


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Sounds like Xlear did more testing and conducted more clinical trials on this nasal spray treatment than ANY of the "vaccine" manufacturers performed on their poison dart juice. Just sayin'......


It sounds like they didn’t do any testing at all. They used evidence from other tests for similar compounds and are somehow claiming that those tests make their product effective. Whether it’s a government conspiracy or not I don’t know but that is not how you do clinical trials.




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Sounds like Xlear did more testing and conducted more clinical trials on this nasal spray treatment than ANY of the "vaccine" manufacturers performed on their poison dart juice. Just sayin'......

It sounds like they didn’t do any testing at all. They used evidence from other tests for similar compounds and are somehow claiming that those tests make their product effective. Whether it’s a government conspiracy or not I don’t know but that is not how you do clinical trials.

Actually they did. You missed this one... Wink

"Housman pointed out that the NIH also published the results of a clinical trial, held a few months later in November at the Larkin Community Hospital in Florida, that found the Xlear nasal spray specifically cleared symptoms of the disease in half the time."


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“Companies can’t make unsupported health claims, no matter what form a product takes, or what it supposedly prevents or treats,” said Samuel Levine, director of the trade commission’s Bureau of Consumer Protection, said in a press release on the lawsuit.

Unless you are Moderna, Pfizer or Johnson and Johnson apparently.


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Originally posted by erj_pilot:
Sounds like Xlear did more testing and conducted more clinical trials on this nasal spray treatment than ANY of the "vaccine" manufacturers performed on their poison dart juice. Just sayin'......

It sounds like they didn’t do any testing at all. They used evidence from other tests for similar compounds and are somehow claiming that those tests make their product effective. Whether it’s a government conspiracy or not I don’t know but that is not how you do clinical trials.

Actually they did. You missed this one... Wink

"Housman pointed out that the NIH also published the results of a clinical trial, held a few months later in November at the Larkin Community Hospital in Florida, that found the Xlear nasal spray specifically cleared symptoms of the disease in half the time."


Yup I did indeed miss that one. Thanks for pointing it out.




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If this government is filing suit against Xlear - I am sure their product works vs. Covid. I would also bet these same tyrants are still furious that they can't get their hands around the Ivermectin narrative. Too generic, proven effective and nobody to file suit against.
 
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