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Originally posted by kx90:
I had COVID back in March/April, confirmed with a PCR test. Today I went to CVS and did the rapid antibody test, showed up positive for IgG antibodies. The lady said that’s good as it means long term immunity…then she asked me if I wanted to get the vaccine. I politely declined.

Unfucking real...
I had chicken pox as a kid, but I think I'll go take the vaccine for it now.

Funny how people run their mouths without actually thinking about what they're spewing.

So, what's all involved in taking the antibody test?
And will the positive result be enough to satisfy the company's requirements?

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Originally posted by myrottiety:
It's been 10 months since I've had it. My taste & smell still aren't right.

Don't know if it's true, but I heard if you take zinc, it'll help with getting back to normal.

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Originally posted by Excam_Man:

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Originally posted by myrottiety:
It's been 10 months since I've had it. My taste & smell still aren't right.

Don't know if it's true, but I heard if you take zinc, it'll help with getting back to normal.

Not long after all this started, my wife read on one of her on-line wives tales boards that Vitamin C & zinc help prevent viruses. So she got some & we took it everyday for a couple weeks. I have no problem with the Vit C, but as long as I was taking that zinc everything I ate tasted awful.

I’ve been looking into supplements that support the immune system. Particularly vitamin D now that summer is ending and I won’t get nearly as much sun. There are very mixed reports on whether or not taking supplements such as zinc, vitamin C and D actually provide any resistance to Covid or any virus.

My eye doc told me that Melatonin is very helpful in preventing most viruses including Covid from taking hold. But I have no problem sleeping. I never have been a believer in popping vitamins as I always thought that enough ever entered you’re system to make a difference. I always look for foods that provide that particular vitamin and go that route. Milk of course for vitamin D but I already drink plenty of that. My immune system has worked very well for over 66 years so why mess with it at this point.

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Originally posted by Excam_Man:

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Originally posted by kx90:
I had COVID back in March/April, confirmed with a PCR test. Today I went to CVS and did the rapid antibody test, showed up positive for IgG antibodies. The lady said that’s good as it means long term immunity…then she asked me if I wanted to get the vaccine. I politely declined.

Unfucking real...
I had chicken pox as a kid, but I think I'll go take the vaccine for it now.

Funny how people run their mouths without actually thinking about what they're spewing.

So, what's all involved in taking the antibody test?
And will the positive result be enough to satisfy the company's requirements?

Made an appointment at a local CVS. They stick your finger to get a little blood and put it on a test strip. 10 minutes later if it will show if you have IgG and/or IgM antibodies. If not lines shown then you have no antibodies. Test was $38 out of pocket, I do not believe insurances cover this test.

They said if you want to know the volume of antibodies present you need to go to LabCorp, Quest or another lab that does that test. I think some insurances cover that test one time only. I’m not sure if you need an order from a doctor for that test.

Although they initially talked about it the company stated they cannot currently accept a positive antibody test in lieu of a vaccination card. They said at the moment they are doing the bare minimum that the state requires.

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Originally posted by kx90:
Although they initially talked about it the company stated they cannot currently accept a positive antibody test in lieu of a vaccination card. They said at the moment they are doing the bare minimum that the state requires.

A local lawyer is fighting that point in Virginia Beach. Previous exposure has been shown to be better than the vaccine, and he is fighting for equal rights for those with antibodies.

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Originally posted by dbgeek:

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Originally posted by kx90:
Although they initially talked about it the company stated they cannot currently accept a positive antibody test in lieu of a vaccination card. They said at the moment they are doing the bare minimum that the state requires.

A local lawyer is fighting that point in Virginia Beach. Previous exposure has been shown to be better than the vaccine, and he is fighting for equal rights for those with antibodies.

I think the owner is hoping some of the lawsuits shut this shit down.

Recently I’ve been wavering a little bit and considering getting the vaccine so I don’t need to deal with the bullshit anymore. It’s a tough situation since I need my job and trying to find a new job will likely put me right into the same situation again. But knowing I have antibodies will add to my resistance to getting the so-called vaccine.

You Are More Likely to Get Infected Today Than Months Ago BECAUSE OF THE VACCINE

Let me “splain” It for you.
by Ted Noel MD

Let’s get one thing clear, right from the front. I’m not the big expert. That’s because there’s waaaay too much information for any one person to understand. I’m just the “splainer,” since I’m the nut who has taken waaaay too much time away from his golf game to study the experts and learn what’s actually going on so I can ‘splain it for you.

Don’t try this at home. I am a professional. I spent 36 years practicing medicine, with a huge chunk of that time wearing masks, both in the operating room and the expensive – oops – Intensive Care Unit. My job is to translate “doctor” into English.

First things have to come first, and like a lot of other times, I have to start with one of those bits where I hit my forehead with my palm and cry out “Duh!” Like every other doctor, there was something I missed that should have been totally obvious.

Vaccines don’t keep you from getting infected by a virus.

You read that right. Vaccines don’t keep anyone from getting infected. Their job is to keep you from getting sick. In fact, every good vaccine prepares your immune system to shut down an infection after it has gotten started. That’s because antibodies and T-cells live in your bloodstream. They can’t do a damn thing about a virus that hasn’t infected you enough to get into your blood. But once it gets there they can go to work, keeping the bug from hurting you. At least, that’s the theory. And that’s where we find the first problem.

Airborne diseases like COVID-19 don’t go straight into your blood. Instead, after you breathe enough virus-laden aerosols in, the air sacs in your lungs get a pretty good covering of virus. This doesn’t make you sick. But the virus latches onto the pneumocytes (the cells on the inside of the air sacs) and start making more virus. This means you can share with your neighbor. In fact, many vaccinated people actually breathe out as much virus as someone who is sick with COVID-19.

But you aren’t defenseless. Your air sacs have “alveolar macrophages,” specialized cells that use “Pattern Recognition Receptors” to identify the Wuhan Flu. Over time, they will clean out the air sacs. And vaccinated people seem to be infectious for a shorter period than unvaccinated.

The viruses that got into the pneumocytes will create more viruses, and some of those will find their way across the basement membrane (the barrier between blood and air in your lungs) into your bloodstream. Once there, if your immunity is good, your T-cells and antibodies will get to work. You may never even know you were infected. Of course, since the vaccine is only about 85% effective, you might get sick.

Suppose you are one of those vaccinated people who gets infected. You could even have gotten it from your vaccinated friend who got it… somewhere. The bug is “in the wild.” That means it is everywhere. You can’t avoid it unless you stay outdoors 24/7/365. Out there any virus is diluted so much that you won’t catch it, and in the daytime the sun will destroy it with UV light. That’s why the number of people who have caught the Wuhan Flu outdoors is indistinguishable from zero.

Indoors, with recirculated air conditioning, the virus concentrates. It stays in the air for hours or days. So when you go into a space where someone has been shedding virus for a while (vaccinated?), you will get exposed.

And don’t give me that mask wearing nonsense. The other guy wasn’t wearing a mask that cut down the amount of virus he left behind by any meaningful amount. He’s breathing out as many as 100,000 virus particles a minute. You only need 100-1000 in your lungs to get you infected. You aren’t wearing a properly fitted fresh N-95. That means the virus gets to you easily.

Both masks were nothing but virtue signaling. Their only real possible value is as bling. Neither mask provided any material protection. There was no source control on the other guy, and no exposure control for you.
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This brings us to the 600 pound gorilla in the room. You are more likely to get infected today than months ago because of the vaccine. This is the “Superbug Problem.”

A few years ago we were all worried about bacteria that couldn’t be killed with antibiotics. They were so deadly that anyone who “caught” MRSA or C-Diff was doomed. But you don’t “catch” those bacteria. They are common. In ordinary circumstances they compete with so many other bacteria that they are a non-event. If you kill off all the other bacteria with antibiotics, MRSA and C-Diff are what’s left. Now you have a problem. You didn’t create the bugs. You created the situation where they could take over and kill your patient.

We fixed this problem by severely restricting antibiotics. I got three days of an old drug after my shoulder replacement. That’s it. I wasn’t on cefazolin any longer than absolutely necessary, and it didn’t have time to wipe out a lot of bacteria in my body. MRSA and C-Diff never got a toehold.

Vaccines are doing exactly the same thing, just with COVD variants. The Pfizer, Moderna, and J&J vaccines provide immunity to the alpha variant spike protein. Because viruses are constantly mutating, there are dozens of variants. We hear about the Delta, but Lambda and Mu are already in the wild. Each one of these has a slightly different spike protein, making your immunity not so good.

But if you recover from COVID, you also have immunity to other parts of the virus, such as the nucleocapsid and envelope. The Fauci ouchy doesn’t help with them. That’s why your immunity after recovery is much longer lasting and robust than after the shot. It also explains why Gibraltar, with a 99% vaccination rate, is having huge problems with COVID variants. It’s also why getting a booster coding for just the alpha spike is stupid. You need immunity to the whole virus.

But how do you get over a case of Wuhan Fu? Space doesn’t allow a full discussion, but the CDC and FDA are totally invested in expensive vaccines that cause myocarditis, strokes, miscarriages, and other major complications. They have not only refused to endorse any prehospital treatment whatever, they are actively discouraging effective protocols, such as the $8 per person treatment that stopped the Delta variant in India. One has to wonder if it’s because it uses Ivermectin, an incredibly inexpensive drug with very little toxicity.

We will never eliminate COVID because it has animal reservoirs that will pass the virus back and forth from animals to humans. If we follow Sweden’s example, where natural immunity has basically eliminated the Delta epidemic, we can go completely back to normal, as long as we treat the bug in the early stages. If we continue to vax, mask, and lock down, expecting a different result…

You can’t fix stupid.

https://noqreport.com/2021/09/...ause-of-the-vaccine/

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Originally posted by chellim1:
If we continue to vax, mask, and lock down, expecting a different result…

You can’t fix stupid.

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Made an appointment at a local CVS. They stick your finger to get a little blood and put it on a test strip. 10 minutes later if it will show if you have IgG and/or IgM antibodies. If not lines shown then you have no antibodies. Test was $38 out of pocket, I do not believe insurances cover this test.

This, did it last week before a Doc appointment, also the Rona Test

Neg on the Rona, Neg on the antibodies...

Response of course "well you could have had it and not known and the antibodies don't last" at CVS.

My Insurance covered the test... Still only $38

Go online to CVS web page and schedule the antibody test.

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"well you could have had it and not known and the antibodies don't last" at CVS.

How long does the vaccine last?

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Originally posted by PASig:
Well it looks like the people of Australia have FINALLY had enough of house-arrest:


A rally in the Melbourne suburb of Richmond turned violent when police attempted to shut it down. Protesters broke through the police line in an epic fashion.

Protesters break through the police line, an officer gets assaulted and trampled by demonstrators, people are screaming and covered in capsicum spray:

Link with video

Now THAT is the Australia I know and love.

Brings up fond memories of the dude that went Mike Tyson on a buff kangaroo for trying to disembowel his dog.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Out-fucking-STANDING!!

Keep it up keep it up. Pour on the heat. Pressurepressurepressure.

Make us proud, Australia. Shove their idiotic restrictions down their fucking throats!

I agree, but did you go through and read the tweets associated with that story. Apparently Australia is no longer worth saving if those tweets are indicative of a majority of the populace. Wow! The ignorance and cowardice was off the charts.

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Originally posted by kx90:
Although they initially talked about it the company stated they cannot currently accept a positive antibody test in lieu of a vaccination card.

Makes perfect sense given the anti-body test showing immunity is actually relevant to the current situation, whereas the vaccine passport means absolutely nothing (short of your willingness to bend a knee to the state).

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They said at the moment they are doing the bare minimum that the state requires.

Because of course the 'state' is staffed with 'experts' (i.e. utter retards) whose lead we 'must' follow. Not. Again, this is just pure cowardice on the part of business, nothing else.

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Originally posted by bigdeal:

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Out-fucking-STANDING!!

Keep it up keep it up. Pour on the heat. Pressurepressurepressure.

Make us proud, Australia. Shove their idiotic restrictions down their fucking throats!

I agree, but did you go through and read the tweets associated with that story. Apparently Australia is no longer worth saving if those tweets are indicative of a majority of the populace. Wow! The ignorance and cowardice was off the charts.

Me personally did not. Typically I would but today is one of those days I just need to focus on the positive. The positive being that there were a lot of folks willing to take a shot of gas to the face and a stick to the back of the head for what they believe is right.

The ones running their cock holsters in the comfort of their homes behind a keyboard don't rate today.

Testimony at FDA Vaccine Hearing – Injections Killing More Than Saving, Driving Variants! Re-All Cause Mortality

https://newsrescue.com/watch-b...all-cause-mortality/

This must be related to why the FDA vaccine committee voted 16-2 against rolling out Biden’s COVID booster shot program

Several doctors from the Food and Drug administration’s (FDA) vaccine hearing on Friday claimed in explosive testimony that the COVID-19 vaccine is killing more people than it’s saving and is driving the coronavirus mutations like the so-called ‘Delta’ variant.

FDA’s Vaccines and Related Biological Products Advisory Committee after 8 hours of testimony voted 16-2 against Joe Biden’s proposed COVID-19 booster shot program.

During that hearing, Dr. Steve Kirsch, director of the COVID-19 Early Treatment Fund, claimed that the injections are killing more people than they’re helping.

“I’m going to focus my remarks today on the elephant in the room that nobody likes to talk about: that the vaccines kill more people than they save,” Kirsch said via teleconference.

Videos at link:

“Today, we focus almost exclusively on COVID death saves and vaccine efficacy because we were led to believe that vaccines were perfectly safe. But this is simply not true.”

“For example, there are four times as many heart attacks in the treatment group in the Pfizer 6-month trial report,” Kirsch continued. “That wasn’t bad luck. VAERS shows heart attacks happened 71x more often following these vaccines compared to any other vaccine.”

“In all 20 people died who got the drug, 14 died who got the placebo. Few people noticed that. If the net all-cause mortality from the vaccine is negative, vaccines, boosters, and mandates are all nonsensical.”

“Even if the vaccines had a 100% protection, it still means we killed two people to save one life,” he added.

Kirsch also explained that in nursing home death data shows about half the vaccinated died, while none of the unvaccinated died.

Viral immunologist and biologist Dr. Jessica Rose noted that, based on the VAERS data, the vaccine risks outweigh the benefits in young people, especially children, pointing to a thousand-fold increase in adverse reactions to the injection in 2021 compared to over the last decade.

“There’s an over 1000% increase in the total number of adverse events for 2021 and we are not done with 2021,” Rose said.

Rose also said the data suggests the COVID vaccines are driving the surge of COVID mutations like the “alpha” and “delta” variants.

“The emergence of both of these variants and their subsequent clustering arose in very close temporal proximity to the rollout of the COVID products in Israel,” she said.

“Israel is one of the most injected countries, and it appears from this data that this represents a clear failure of these products to provided protective immunity against emergent variants and to prevent transmission,” she added.

An ER physician from New Orleans, Dr. Joseph Fraiman, noted not enough large-scale clinical trial data exists to assure well-informed unvaccinated Americans that their risk of experiencing vaccine side effects is lower than their chance of being hospitalized.

“Demand the booster trials are large enough to find a reduction in hospitalizations,” Fraiman told the FDA panel. “Without this data, we the medical establishment cannot confidently call out anti-COVID vaccine activists who publicly claim that vaccines harm more than they save, especially in the young and healthy.”

“The fact we do not have the clinical evidence to say these activists are wrong should terrify us all,” he added.

After these alarming testimonials, it’s no wonder the FDA committee voted the booster program down.

The FDA panel voting against the booster program represents a major blow to the Biden administration, who announced in August its plan to roll out boosters for Americans who already took two doses of the jab.

Watch the full FDA hearing: It is 8 hours long



Here is another website with excerpt videos from the FDA hearing.

FDA experts reveal the Covid-19 Vaccines are killing at least 2 people for every 1 life they save as they vote 16 – 2 against the approval of booster shots

https://theexpose.uk/2021/09/1...-every-1-life-saved/

FDA experts have unexpectedly voted against approving Covid-19 vaccination boosters for anyone over the age of 16 in the USA, citing a lack of long term data and stating that the risks do not outweigh any benefits because the Covid-19 vaccines are killing at least 2 people for every 1 life saved.

In a live broadcast conducted on the 17th September the Food and Drug Administration vaccine advisory committee met to debate and vote on Pfizer and BioNTech’s application to offer booster shots to the general public. The meeting lasted over 8 hours and contained some shocking revelations.

Dr Joseph Fraiman, an emergency medicine physician in New Orleans, spoke for several minutes during the meeting and revealed that no clinical evidence exists to disprove claims that the Covid-109 vaccines are harming more people than they save.

“We need your help on the front lines, to stop vaccine hesitancy. Demand the booster trials are large enough to find a reduction in hospitalisations.

“Without this data we the medical establishment cannot confidently call out anti-Covid-vaccine activists who publicly claim the vaccines harm more than they save especially in the young and healthy.

“The fact we do not have the clinical evidence to say these activists are wrong should terrify us all”.

Dr Joseph Fraiman was then followed by Steve Kirsch, Executive Director of the Covid-19 Early Treatment Fund, who revealed that the Covid-19 vaccines more people than they are saving.

“I’m going to focus my remarks today on the elephant in the room that nobody likes to talk about, that the vaccines kill more than they save.

“We were led to believe that the vaccines were perfectly safe but this is simply not true, for example there are four times as many heart attacks in the treatment group in the Pfizer 6 month file report, that wasn’t just bad luck.VAERS shows heart attacks happen 71 times more often following these vaccines compared to any other vaccine,”

Steve Kirsch then continued his presentation by showing a slide titled ‘Excess Death: Life ratio is UNACCEPTABLE’. The slide shows how many excess deaths were required following vaccination to save one life due to Covid-19.



“Only the VAERS (Vaccine Adverse Event Reporting System) are statistically significant, but the other numbers are troubling.” said Steve Kirsch.

“Even if the vaccines have 100% protection, it still means we kill 2 people to save 1 life.

“Four experts did analysis using completely different non US data sources and all of them came up with approximately the same number of excess vaccine related deaths, about 411 deaths per million doses. That translates into 115,000 people have died (due to the Covid-19 vaccines).”



The Executive Director of the Covid-19 Early Treatment Fund then pointed out some serious concerns over data coming out of Israel.

“The real numbers confirm that we kill more than we save. And I would love to look at the Israel ministry of health data on the 90+ year olds where we went from a 94.4% vaccinated group to 82.9% vaccinated in the last 4 months. I

“in the most optimistic it means that 50% of the vaccinated people died and 0% of unvaccinated people died. Unless you can explain that to the public you cannot approve the boosters.”

Peter Marks, FDA’s top vaccine regulator, then asked committee members to examine “the totality of the evidence in order to make your recommendation for us,”.

Following the evidence they responded with a resounding no voting 16 – 2 against advising the agency to roll-out booster shots to anyone over the age of 16.

The full 8 hour footage is available to view here, but you can watch all of the above comments in the following video –

Video at link

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Originally posted by bigdeal:

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Out-fucking-STANDING!!

Keep it up keep it up. Pour on the heat. Pressurepressurepressure.

Make us proud, Australia. Shove their idiotic restrictions down their fucking throats!

I agree, but did you go through and read the tweets associated with that story. Apparently Australia is no longer worth saving if those tweets are indicative of a majority of the populace. Wow! The ignorance and cowardice was off the charts.

Twitter is not real. That’s one thing I have learned time and again. Twitter is a device to shape opinion. It’s not a platform that is made to share opinions. It is no more real than when all the “conservatives” were posting to oust Trump. I think at one point Twatter was claiming “90 percent” of conservatives “wanted Trump gone”

I’ll stick with watching “Crocodile Dundee” and “Kangaroo Jack” to form stereotypes of Australia over anything that may be twatted.

Israel stepping up Covid-19 self-isolation enforcement with GPS tracking system

https://www.i24news.tv/en/news...-gps-tracking-system

Quarantined Israelis began receiving text messages on Sunday from the police for option to give location

Tens of thousands of quarantined people on Sunday received a text message from the Israel Police with a link to provide their GPS location for the purpose of tracking them during the self-isolation period, according to a statement from the Public Security Ministry.

The tracking system — developed by the Israel Police with the assistance of the Public Security Ministry — was expanded after the successful completion of a pilot program in recent weeks.

Israel has imposed new measures in an effort to contain the spread of Covid-19 driven by an outbreak of the highly contagious delta variant.

Self-isolated individuals can choose not to provide their location information using their smart phone. In that case, Israel Police "will carry out increased supervision activity in the place of isolation," according to the government web page explaining the terms of the system.

Public Security Minister Omar Bar-Lev called the service "essential" for "streamlining" the enforcement system during the quarantine period, saving the need for inspectors to visit the homes of self-isolated individuals.

"I recommend anyone who receives a message to click on the link and confirm the activation of the temporary location," Bar-Lev said in the statement. "The location information that will be shared with us from the agreement will not be stored and will be used solely for the purpose of immediate location."

All Israelis returning from trips abroad, including individuals vaccinated with two doses, are required to quarantine for a minimum of seven days with a negative PCR test result on the seventh day or up to 14 days.

Exemptions are currently being made for people who have received the third vaccine dose, those who have recovered from the coronavirus or got their first two doses within the last six months.

Well I lost a close BIL today to this shit. 55 years young. College football ref. Fit. Wife and two young adult children left behind. Got to his lungs and he was tubed for almost two weeks. Just a sad day. Sorry to vent guys.

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Originally posted by Krazeehorse:
Well I lost a close BIL today to this shit. 55 years young. College football ref. Fit. Wife and two young adult children left behind. Got to his lungs and he was tubed for almost two weeks. Just a sad day. Sorry to vent guys.

Damn it. I'm sorry. I have a long time co worker who has his wife on a vent.

This thing is real. I don't know anyone who thinks different. The response to it is what is unreal.

Again, I'm so sorry.

I'm fat and have liver , kidney and heart issues. This thing will hit me eventually, but .gov response won't help. I'll most likely be dead. But a bee sting up to a nuclear strike from CCP will get me also. At least that is what I get out of this entire thread.

The retarded children in charge are destroying us to save us.

My condolences.