Exactly, The "we are overrun" is the same mantra they used a year ago. Firing all these nurse's who put their lives on the line since the beginning and were the real hero's, saving countless lives are now expendable at the expense of their patient is obscene. All for the vaccine effort. It is unbelievable. It really is.

These Nurse's deserve our respect, admiration and thanks for all they do and have done.
What the gov and hospital administration is doing is one of the worst things I have witnessed in my life time in this country.

Here locally Topeka, Kansas at our hospitals half the ER is shut down and half the beds are shut down. The reason? because we don't have the staffing but they're saying our beds are at 75% full when half the hospital beds are shut down. I don't know how the rest of the country is but here staffing is the problem. Where do I get my information from? I know a lot of the paramedics that are running the calls. Paramedics are walking into emergency rooms where half of the emergency room is closed because they don't have the nurses. I saw this first hand recently when my daughter was looked at for a broken ankle at Stormont Vail. I was in their ER talked to staff. I'm also VA med for any needs staff there is extremely low and a good chunk of their available beds are shuttered. I was just there a month ago.

Perhaps the Biden\Harris Administration should have jumped onboard with Gov. DeSantis instead of fighting the science.

Hey Joe, where is your Operation Warp Speed program for Monoclonal Antibody Early Treatment?

Not having enough to go around is really a failure for the Biden\Harris Administration, is it not?
How many more unneeded deaths are necessary for Joe and Hoe to take action take appropriate steps.

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This is pretty interesting. I disagree with Jimmy Dore on a lot, but he's a classic liberal in a lot of little ways.

Great video, thanks for posting Veeper. I watch Jimmy Dore every so often. Many to see how the other side thinks.

I want to believe this. If the lid ever comes off therapeutics, kick out the jambs...

HUGE: Uttar Pradesh, India Announces State Is COVID-19 Free Proving the Effectiveness of “Deworming Drug” IVERMECTIN

Covid-free, I dunno, effective? Looking good. Long article with breaks, pics and charts. The lead-in:

The Gateway Pundit previously reported that COVID cases are plummeting in India thanks to new rules that promote Ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine to its massive population. The 33 districts in Uttar Pradesh, India have now become free from COVID-19 government informed on Friday. The recovery rate has increased up to 98.7% proving the effectiveness of IVERMECTIN as part of the “Uttar Pradesh Covid Control Model.” Of course, the media won’t mention that Ivermectin is being used for the treatment of COVID-19.

This state has an estimated population of 241 million people in 2021 and has the highest population in India. This is almost two-thirds of the United States population in 2021 and yet it is now a COVID-19 free nation...

I’m pretty sure this is related to the Virus, not positive, but I didn’t think this post needed another thread.

I had a routine dentist appointment this week. Just see the dental hygienist and have my dentist look things over. I had never had an appointment with this hygienist before and she told me her story.

She was retired. She had a recent appointment to get her own teeth cleaned and the hygienist working on her teeth said that 69 out of 200 hygienists in Wyoming whose licenses were up for renewal, declined to do so. She decided to go ahead and bring her own license up to date, and is now working on her terms, part time. Seems to be a similar situation with other people in medical fields, not just nurses.

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Originally posted by old rugged cross:
Exactly, The "we are overrun" is the same mantra they used a year ago. Firing all these nurse's who put their lives on the line since the beginning and were the real hero's, saving countless lives are now expendable at the expense of their patient is obscene. All for the vaccine effort. It is unbelievable. It really is.

These Nurse's deserve our respect, admiration and thanks for all they do and have done.
What the gov and hospital administration is doing is one of the worst things I have witnessed in my life time in this country.

This has to be one of the fastest examples from "hero to zero" in history. And I'm with you in terms of this being disgusting.

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Hey Joe, where is your Operation Warp Speed program for Monoclonal Antibody Early Treatment?

Not having enough to go around is really a failure for the Biden\Harris Administration, is it not?

Sorry, but that's total horse byproduct. There's no shortage. These a-holes are playing games. Texas and Florida aren't willing to bend a knee to this retarded administration, so the administration has decided to bring them to heel. Apparently DeSantis has now gone around the retard administration and straight to Glaxo Smith Kline, and is working on a deal to buy however many additional doses Florida needs directly from the manufacturer bypassing Slo Joe. Let's see if this administration swoops in and buys up the inventory Florida is trying to get. Wouldn't surprise me in the least.

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I developed a fever Tuesday evening, woke up Wednesday and felt like a truck had hit me. Tested positive Thursday morning.

Main complaint for me alternates between the body aches and the persistent fever. A doctor friend offered a Rx for ivermectin so I’ll get that going tomorrow. A local private urgent care facility seems to have the monoclonal antibodies but I’m not sure I’m going to go that route… probably not.

Take care, all.

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I developed a fever Tuesday evening, woke up Wednesday and felt like a truck had hit me. Tested positive Thursday morning.

Main complaint for me alternates between the body aches and the persistent fever. A doctor friend offered a Rx for ivermectin so I’ll get that going tomorrow. A local private urgent care facility seems to have the monoclonal antibodies but I’m not sure I’m going to go that route… probably not.

Take care, all.

Why wouldn’t you try to throw the kitchen sink at it if you could?

Just finished an 8 day run with it myself. No therapeutics just a lot of sleep and hydration. Fever would come and go but was persistent. Body aches, congestion, cough, loss of smell and joint pain. It really throws the book of symptoms at you. I wish you a quick recovery.

I’m two weeks out from it and it was bad. Only symptom I have still is no smell/taste. The docs dropped the ball IMHO, no one recommended me take the rvidisvier stuff or anything else-just treat the symptoms and good luck and go to the ear if your O2 goes below 90%

Couple down the road were in their 90's. She recently fell, broke a hip and passed away.

He called yesterday and asked if we could take him into town. "I'm too pissed off to drive". The Mrs. took him and called me later.

"On her death certificate, it listed cause of death as Covid. He marched into the doctor's office, slapped the death certificate on the M.D.'s desk. Told the doctor "Covid my ass".

Friend of ours is going in for surgery and had to take the obligatory covid test. She came back positive. She has no symptoms.

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A local private urgent care facility seems to have the monoclonal antibodies but I’m not sure I’m going to go that route… probably not.

Do it. Yesterday.

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Originally posted by thumperfbc:
I developed a fever Tuesday evening, woke up Wednesday and felt like a truck had hit me. Tested positive Thursday morning.

Main complaint for me alternates between the body aches and the persistent fever. A doctor friend offered a Rx for ivermectin so I’ll get that going tomorrow. A local private urgent care facility seems to have the monoclonal antibodies but I’m not sure I’m going to go that route… probably not.

Take care, all.

Do the research on the monoclonal antibody infusion. Statistically, its proven very successful with no lasting side effects. If I get Covid 'and' symptoms at some point, I've planned to use this treatment as part of my approach to recovery (assuming I can still get it here in Florida).

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....no one recommended me take the rvidisvier stuff....

If you're talking about Remdesivir, you're likely better off given the potential side effects of that drug. Shame they didn't recommend the Regeneron (monoclonal antibody) infusion given the success they've had with that drug.

Agreed. Its the only treatment virtually guaranteed to improve your condition. And truly effective the earlier you get it.

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Originally posted by thumperfbc:
A local private urgent care facility seems to have the monoclonal antibodies but I’m not sure I’m going to go that route… probably not.

Do it. Yesterday.

FDA Advisors Meet To Decide On Booster Jabs As "The Science" Remains Uncertain

The big day has finally arrived.

On Friday, a group of key FDA advisors - the Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices - is meeting to debate and vote on Pfizer's request for approval of a third COVID booster shot of its "Comirnaty" vaccine for all Americans age 16 and older. The two big questions they must answer are: is there enough evidence to suggest that booster shots are safe and should be made available to everyone, or should they be limited to a smaller group of older and immunocompromised Americans?

On the agenda are presentations from Pfizer, FDA staff, CDC staff, Israeli researchers, and others. At the end of the virtual meeting, which began at 0830ET Eastern, members will be asked to vote yes or no. That vote isn't expected until later in the afternoon after a long day of debate.

After the White House waffled on whether the shot could be delivered five or eight months after the second dose, Pfizer has requested approval for the booster dose about six months after the second shot after submitting data showing efficacy wanes over time. And while Moderna has made a similar request and submitted similar data, it's vaccine isn't being considered on Friday. A committee of advisors from the CDC will meet next week to develop booster shots. Despite the drug companies' best efforts, the FDA has seemingly remained unconvinced about the necessity of booster jabs.

In recent weeks, scientists have become increasingly vocal about their opposition for the US pushing ahead with booster jabs so soon. Most argue that these jabs would be better utilized in the developing world, where vaccination rates are lower, and the risk of a deadly new variant arising are higher. One exasperated scientist lamented that the scientific process was being "short circuited" by politics, a reference to President Biden's push to start doling out booster jabs in the face of the delta driven wave that surged over the summer and - in the US, at least - appears to have finally peaked (with deaths hopefully soon to follow). The WHO has also urged President Biden to hold off on the booster jabs, arguing that there's greater need elsewhere.

University of Florida biostatistician Ira Longini (a co-author on the Lancet paper we will mention below) said it would be "immoral" to begin widespread boosters before the rest of the world has been vaccinated, per CNN.

On the data front, new data published this week out of Israel offer a "compelling" case for a booster to be administered at some point as vaccines-induced efficacy wanes. But the data is based on a sample of just 300 patients.

Meanwhile, on Monday, an international group of scientists led by Dr. Philip Krause, deputy chief of the FDA's vaccine regulation office, and his boss, Dr. Marion Gruber - both of whom are leaving the FDA, apparently in protest, published an essay in The Lancet that questioned the need for widespread booster shots right now. Gruber, who has decided to remain at the agency until later this fall, is listed as a participant in Friday's meeting, .

In a nutshell, the Lancet paper argues that vaccine-based protection against severe Covid is still strong, while evidence is lacking that booster shots will be safe and effective.

So far, the real-world data is scant and inconclusive. While Israel has doled out hundreds of thousands of booster jabs to patients as young as 12, it hasn't done much to stop the latest wave of cases (like in the US, deaths and hospitalizations are much lower than their 2020 peak).

Right now, evidence suggests boosters would have the greatest benefit for patients over 65, and the immunocompromised. Already, 1.9MM Americans have received booster jabs after they were authorized by the CDC for people with compromised immune systems.

Shares of vaccine-makers including Pfizer, BioNTech, Moderna and others could be volatile Friday as advisers meet, and inevitable leaks hit the tap.

"My guess is we are going to end up with a recommendation for booster doses for a certain subpopulation, such as adults older than 65," said Bill Moss, executive director of the International Vaccine Access Center at the Johns Hopkins Bloomberg School of Public Health.

Before we go, let's review: The FDA (and plenty of advisers and third parties) say vaccines are largely still effective enough that there's no need for boosters. Pfizer has submitted data showing efficacy is waning, and that boosters are necessary. Dr. Fauci, and seven other top health officials including the heads of the CDC and FDA have spoken in favor of the need for booster jabs. The WHO and plenty of private scientists have insisted instead that those jabs should instead go to the emerging world where vaccination rates are much lower. For what it's worth, when confronted about natural vs. vaccine-induced immunity, Dr. Fauci said "I really don't know what to tell you."

But most importantly: the White House says 'GET YOUR BOOSTER JABS NOW!' with President Biden pushing ahead with a plan to start doling out the jabs on Monday (contingent (though that plan must receive the blessing of the FDA and CDC first).

The bottom line is this: while the White House, Dr. Fauci and every other party involved claim to be following "the science", but the reality is the science hasn't really given us a clear answer. It's clear that vaccine-induced immunity fades over time - and generally more quickly than natural immunity - but as for whether a third dose will make a material difference in preventing death and serious illness in the vast majority of patients? Scientists still haven't collected and analyzed enough data.

The bigger question: will 'Uncle Joe' and myriad state and local officials require Americans to get booster jabs like they're requiring even those with natural immunity to get vaccinated, potentially exposing these patients to rare side effects while it's unclear whether they're making a meaningful difference in immunity.

https://www.zerohedge.com/covi...ce-remains-uncertain

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New Cleveland Clinic study found people who had COVID were less likely to be reinfected than fully vaccinated individuals who never had virus—suggesting vaccine is of no benefit to people who already had COVID.

Cleveland Clinic: Already Had COVID? Vaccine Provides No Added Benefit

A Cleveland Clinic study of the effectiveness of COVID vaccines in people with a history of previous SARS-CoV-2 infection and those without found those who had COVID but weren’t vaccinated appeared...
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https://noqreport.com/2021/09/...political-narrative/

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Originally posted by thumperfbc:
I developed a fever Tuesday evening, woke up Wednesday and felt like a truck had hit me. Tested positive Thursday morning.

Main complaint for me alternates between the body aches and the persistent fever. A doctor friend offered a Rx for ivermectin so I’ll get that going tomorrow. A local private urgent care facility seems to have the monoclonal antibodies but I’m not sure I’m going to go that route… probably not.

Take care, all.

Why wouldn’t you try to throw the kitchen sink at it if you could?

I’m not too high risk and the monoclonal antibodies used HEK293T during the testing phase, so I won’t be using it. I did reading about that yesterday after my first post in this thread. Principal of the thing and all that.

It’s so far just a bad cold, except for some very minor gastro issues. I have no real reason to be specifically concerned, at this time and feel pretty good this morning.