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That is terrible. My condolences, and prayers for the family. הרחפת שלי מלאה בצלופחים | |||
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So sorry for your loss. But this is the thing I want researched and answers developed for. Why does this virus kill this guy yet two of the people I know who got it (both over 50 and both fairly obese), survived it with little more than a bad case of the flu. Lots we still don't know about this bug. ----------------------------- Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter | |||
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It is crazy how it hits people differently. My wife, son and me all had it a couple weeks ago. I am 52 and in good shape. Took 8 days for me to kick it. Fever, aches, pains, congestion, cough, you name it. Nasty stuff. We are all fine now. In contrast a good friend of mine has a brother in his 40’s and it killed him. Hard to understand why, I guess it comes down to any underlying weakness COVID can prey on. None of us have been vaccinated. JC | |||
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You would think by now there would be a test to identify the most at risk people. __________________________ If Jesus would have had a gun he would be alive today. Homer Simpson “Him plenty dead” Tonto | |||
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kh, sorry for the loss of your family. That is tough. Do you know if he got the poke or not? "Practice like you want to play in the game" | |||
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Here is a calculator to determine your risk from death or hospitalization from covid. It is British so you have to enter your height in cm and weight in kilograms. I have included my results. I am over 60 years old. Don't want to give my exact age on a public forum. https://www.qcovid.org/Calculation I ran my numbers and here are my results: Risk assessment results The risk table The table shows the absolute risk of catching and dying COVID-19 over a 90-day period based on data from the first peak of the pandemic. There is a comparison with the risk for a person of the same age and sex but with no risk factors. The relative risk is the absolute risk divided by this average risk. Absolute risk (a) Absolute risk with no risk factors (b) Relative risk (a/b) COVID associated death 0.0228% 1 in 4386 0.0227% 1 in 4405 1.0044 COVID associated hospital admission 0.1032% 1 in 969 0.101% 1 in 990 1.0218 In other words in a crowd of 10,000 people with the same risk factors, 2 are likely to catch and die from COVID-19 and 10 to be admitted to hospital during a 90 day period similar to the recent peak. The Body Mass index is 25.6 kg/m2 COVID associated death The absolute risk of a COVID-19 associated death is 1 in 4386. This is in rank 75 out of 100, where 100 is most at risk. _________________________ "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." Mark Twain | |||
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He was not vaccinated. Tested on a Friday night so he could ref on Saturday. Positive the following Tuesday or Wednesday. Fever for a day then it broke. Fever again and it broke again. Felt pretty normal. Then the lung issues started. I think some people are just genetically vulnerable. Tough deal but we will get through it. Thanks for all the nice comments. _____________________ Be careful what you tolerate. You are teaching people how to treat you. | |||
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Ran my data through this calculator. The absolute risk of a COVID-19 associated death is 1 in 7353. This is in rank 69 out of 100, where 100 is most at risk. And I still don't buy these results. ----------------------------- Guns are awesome because they shoot solid lead freedom. Every man should have several guns. And several dogs, because a man with a cat is a woman. Kurt Schlichter | |||
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1 in 58824 AR for death here. I had the virus in Oct 2020.   | |||
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Australia update: Victoria Story here: Construction workers protest gets ugly ******** [extract] Following the civil unrest on Saturday, hundreds of workers showed up outside the CFMEU (Construction, Forestry, Mining and Energy Union) HQ in Melbourne, to express their displeasure of the Union's announcement of mandatory COVID-19 vaccinations for construction workers. The State government announced that all construction workers have to have at least one dose by Sep 23 2021. Or no work. *** ??? Yes, this week. Unreal. ??? The Union bosses retreated, and locked themselves into the Union HQ building. Police stood by, idly watching. There was wrestling, punches and some projectiles were hurled. Bullhorn broken.  ******* The State govt had earlier shutdown construction site tea rooms. A breeding ground for Covid, allegedly. You maybe wondering how this latest round started? Well, you see, a tradie called the site manager where he was working, stating he had Covid, and wouldn't be coming in that day. That led to site shutdowns, testing ... and so forth. The tradie lied. Jeez, all he wanted was a paid day off. And ... here we are. And as for last Saturday's violent protest? Some of the protesters arrested are being charged with, amongst other charges, assault with a weapon. An umbrella. What a sorry nanny state I live in. </chris> We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid." ~ Benjamin Franklin. "If anyone in this country doesn't minimise their tax, they want their head read, because as a government, you are not spending it that well, that we should be donating extra...: Kerry Packer SIGForum: the island of reality in an ocean of diarrhoea. | |||
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Can a Union strike itself? Imagine in no one showed up for work on Monday... Hedley Lamarr: Wait, wait, wait. I'm unarmed. Bart: Alright, we'll settle this like men, with our fists. Hedley Lamarr: Sorry, I just remembered . . . I am armed. | |||
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I love how the govt came out to "condemn the right wing violence" These woke MFers are getting close to seeing what real violence looks like! ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ A 'Veteran' -- whether active duty, discharged, retired, or reserve -- is someone who, at one point in his life, wrote a blank check made payable to 'The United States of America,' for an amount of 'up to, and including his life.' That is honor, and there are way too many people in this country today, who no longer understand that fact. Author unknown | |||
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So my employer released a mandatory vaccination survey which was supposed to be completed by Friday. I have not taken the survey. Results are tracked by a committee with special access to the results. I wrote this to my HR this morning. I don't know the fallout that will follow but at least I will not go quietly... I hope this e-mail finds you well and receptive. I have a feeling that I am not the only one to feel this way and that most people who feel the way that I do are afraid to speak up. The tone is set that we should not question any state or government actions in the name of “public health.” I do not want to write this e-mail but I feel that I’ve been backed into a corner and my hand has been forced. Many people feel that if you disagree with the narrative or the CDC or the state mandates, you’re expected to shut your mouth and toe the line. It is troubling to me that this survey was asked and tracked in the same system as our timecard and benefits, and that the results are permanently linked to an employee’s account. I feel that that was so wrong in so many ways. I could see, perhaps, having the survey on an external survey website that would only allow the amount of people to take the survey as there are at a certain campus. That would preserve anonymity, yet still give the employer an idea of how many persons are vaccinated at a certain site. This topic is severely polarizing and political and it’s tearing the country apart (the world, actually, look at Australia). It’s dividing the populous into two camps and is setting the stage for ideological discrimination. I just want to do my job and be left alone. I also feel that asking vaccine status does not give a company an accurate idea of onsite contagion risk. From all the research I have done, you’re not asking the most important question of all. You should be asking, anonymously, if people have been previously infected with COVID-19. Covid survivors vs vaccinated: If you’re going to be using data to determine return to work, I’d like to point out some possibly overlooked data. Survivors of prior infection are the most protected group of people in the population, regardless of vaccine status. From the research I’ve conducted, infection rates amongst covid survivors is somewhere between 0.3% to 0.7%. https://www.physiciansweekly.c...erience-reinfection/ (physiciansweekly.com) Ah, but you might say “The CDC says that vaccination offers higher protection than previous covid-19 infection” https://www.cdc.gov/media/rele...tion-protection.html Their own article headline is misleading. In the very first paragraph of the article it states: “people who were previously infected with SAR-CoV-2 shows that unvaccinated individuals are more than twice as likely to be reinfected with COVID-19 than those who were fully vaccinated after initially contracting the virus” They’re talking about people who got vaccinated after getting sick! The headline makes it sound like people who have not had covid but are vaccinated are better protected than people who have survived covid, but are not vaccinated. That is completely misleading and meant to make immune people question their immunity and still get “the poke.” Given the data from the first article and the data from the CDC, If the CDC revised its headline to be clear and reflect what the article actually says, It would read: “unvaccinated covid survivors maintain 0.7% reinfection rate versus 0.35% reinfection rate with vaccinated covid survivors.” If they would tell the truth, maybe people wouldn’t be so afraid. Given these facts, I see no logical reason for a covid survivor to be vaccinated. Has anyone considered that in Israel, over 60% of the population are vaccinated with the Phizer vaccine, yet their daily infection rates per capita are twice that of the US. Israel’s findings also show that vaccinated individuals are 13x more likely to be infected that someone with the antibodies. https://www.israeltoday.co.il/...ovid-infection-rate/ (israeltoday.co.il) The Delta Strain: But what about the delta variant? Shouldn’t we get vaccinated against the delta variant? As far as I know, there has not been enough time to develop, test and release a delta variant strain vaccine. And the sad part is that nobody knows if they got the delta variant unless a sample is sent for genetic testing. So when people get swabbed, it won’t tell you what strain you have. I know this because my wife is a nurse and she swabs patients all day. She asked if there are delta variant tests, and there are none. Vaccination Discrimination: So in reading about the recent vaccine decree that will affect us all, I see that unvaccinated individuals will be required to be tested weekly. Has anyone bothered to ask why vaccinated should not be tested, but unvaccinated should? Vaccinated people can still get sick and they can still transmit the virus. The majority of people hospitalized in Israel for COVID are fully vaccinated Israelis. Unvaccinated people can still get sick and transmit the virus. Everything I’m reading says that the only thing the vaccine may do is help recover after infection. When the time comes, and when you’re told what to do by the powers that be, will you go along with unequal treatment of employees based on their documented vaccinate status? I don’t think I would allow myself to get tested weekly unless everyone was required to get tested regardless of vaccination status. I think it’s a question you should prepare yourselves to answer. I do not feel right participating in this non-anonymous survey. I could write more, but I’m worn out on COVID research. Thank you so much for your time. You have always treated me very well, and for that I am grateful. Thank you. My wife and I are preparing ourselves for my job to be terminated at any time. And for those who don't remember, I survived COVID last April and even gave convalescent plazma at one point. Tony. Owner, TonyBen, LLC, Type-07 FFL www.tonybenm14.com (Site under construction). e-mail: tonyben@tonybenm14.com | |||
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^^Tony, bravo, well written. With your permission I would like to borrow some of the above should my company feel inclined to go along with this nonsense. | |||
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Tony: Thank you for standing up for truth. You are brave. In order to change things we need more people like you. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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I’ll be praying for you guys. Incredibly saddening that this is where we’re at with this. ______________________________________________ Carthago delenda est | |||
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Anyone reading this has my permission to do so. Thank you, my friends, for the kind words. Tony. Owner, TonyBen, LLC, Type-07 FFL www.tonybenm14.com (Site under construction). e-mail: tonyben@tonybenm14.com | |||
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My work has been pretty quiet over all of this. We are already short on people as it is and the vast majority of us have not been jabbed and refuse to do so. More than a couple are nearing retirement and have stated that they will do so early and are making plans. If that happens I will be the only guy on the floor on Saturday. The weekend shift used to have 14 guys on the floor, we are down to me and another guy now. | |||
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I never thought I would be listening to a leftist comedian for what's happening. | |||
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I hope your employer is smarter than our school board which also took a survey as it related to mandatory masking. 72% of parents surveyed opposed it. 64% of staff surveyed opposed it. 4 out of 5 students opposed it. School board voted in favor of mandatory masking. | |||
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