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Originally posted by kkina:
The mutation rate of SARS-CoV-2 is actually slow compared with other RNA viruses. I think it's something like half the rate of the flu, for example. This is due to the coronavirus having a built-in "proofreading" mechanism which by definition limits replication errors.

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Originally posted by Mr. Kook:
Coronavirus is a cold virus. It has always mutated very quickly. Any vaccine for it is likely obsolete before it completes development

Thank you!

It's funny, when all of this started, I actually knew that (since then, had totally forgotten). Over a year and a half into this and I feel less informed than ever.

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Originally posted by mbinky:


And the republican party could care less.

And how could the Republican Party care less? In states where Republicans have control, voting measures have been enacted, “emergency” powers have been yanked, etc.

I get it you look to shit on the Republican Party in every post you can, but tell me how with all the laws enacted that they “could care less”?

Mask mandate reinstated at my work as of yesterday.

:: sigh ::

Two of our facilities folks nearing retirement said "hell with this" and set a date.

In a new thread, sigfreund claims that:

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based on what I have seen in the other thread it is no longer about vaccines but rather policies. And there is a significant difference. If anyone is interested in discussion about the vaccines themselves, I believe it would be a chore to find there.

I will post this here, rather than there because it is about policy.

However, it should be noted that it's hard to talk about vaccines and ignore policy when the vaccine advocates are attempting to force or coerce people to take them as a matter of policy.


220,000 Member American Postal Workers Union Releases Statement Against Mandatory Vaccinations for Federal Employees

One of the reasons why the federal mandate for vaccinations will fail will be the backlash and refusal compliance by the blue-collar workforce.

While the U.S. ideological media will downplay the scale of power within the middle-class and blue-collar workforce, they know the true power exists. The team behind Biden might poke this bear to test a reaction, but they will not dare confront it directly. They know that. WE know that.

The 220,000 members of the American Postal Workers Union (APWU) released a statement saying the federal government has no business attempting to force vaccinate the workforce. This union will not be the only one… watch:

PRESS RELEASE – Various media outlets have reported that the White House is considering mandatory COVID-19 vaccination as a condition of employment for federal employees.

Maintaining the health and safety of our members is of paramount importance. While the APWU leadership continues to encourage postal workers to voluntarily get vaccinated, it is not the role of the federal government to mandate vaccinations for the employees we represent.

Issues related to vaccinations and testing for COVID-19 in the workplace must be negotiated with the APWU. At this time the APWU opposes the mandating of COVID-19 vaccinations in relation to U.S. postal workers.

https://theconservativetreehou...ployees/#more-214660

So am I reading this right that Australia since the beginning has recorded 1000 deaths due to the WuFlu? Yet they are determined to forcefully shut the county down to do what, keep people from being sick?

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Originally posted by BamaJeepster:

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Originally posted by mbinky:
All you American serfs will mask and vax or your livelihood will be destroyed.

All you beautiful precious immigrants are free to move about the country while infected.

Over 50K, released and bussed across America - no vaccinations, no masks, nothing.



https://www.axios.com/migrant-...e8-2a8b60e3c070.html


No telling what the real number is, Axios is a leftwing site.

These things are all related.

Published July 9
Americans 'do not need' COVID-19 booster shot, FDA, CDC say

https://www.foxnews.com/health...booster-shot-fda-cdc

In a statement published hours after Pfizer signaled its intention to file for emergency use authorization for a COVID-19 booster shot, the FDA and Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) said fully vaccinated Americans "do not need" an extra dose at this time. The health agencies said the U.S. "is fortunate to have highly effective vaccines that are widely available" to eligible populations.

"People who are fully vaccinated are protected from severe disease and death, including from the variants currently circulating in the country such as Delta," the statement said. "People who are not vaccinated remain at risk. Virtually all COVID-19 hospitalizations and deaths are among those who are unvaccinated."


PFIZER TO SEEK FDA AUTHORIZATION FOR COVID-19 BOOSTER SHOT
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Published 2 hours ago (July 29, 2021)
Israel will reportedly begin offering a booster dose of the Pfizer-BioNTech COVID-19 vaccine for people ages 60 and older, weeks after it opened up the availability of a third jab to at-risk populations. The move, reported via Israeli TV and radio but not yet published on the Ministry of Health website, comes amid a rapid rise in the delta variant.


Pfizer this week published data suggesting that a third dose of its vaccine would strongly boost protection against the delta variant. A preprint also suggested that efficacy dropped to about 84% about six months after the second dose.

Boosters remain a hotbed for debate in countries around the world, especially as health agencies investigate so-called breakthrough infections among vaccinated individuals and reinstate mask mandates in a bid to stop the spread.


https://www.foxnews.com/health...dults-over-60-report

Biden wants state, local govts to give $100 to newly vaccinated Americans-Treasury

https://news.yahoo.com/biden-w...govts-193528335.html



WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Joe Biden is calling for state, local and U.S. territorial governments to provide $100 payments for every newly vaccinated American to boost COVID-19 inoculation rates, the U.S. Treasury Department said on Thursday.

Treasury said in a statement that such incentives are an allowable use of funds from the $350 billion in aid granted to state, local, territorial and tribal governments under the American Rescue Plan Act. The department added that it would provide technical assistance in using these funds to support increased vaccinations.

Restaurant Group’s CEO: Customers Will Have to Give Proof of COVID-19 Vaccination

https://www.theepochtimes.com/...nuHJ05uVztFOLYSTkdax

The founder of Shake Shack, Danny Meyer, said his Union Square Hospitality Group will require indoor diners and drinkers at its restaurants to show that they’ve been vaccinated against COVID-19.

Employees will also have to get the vaccine, Meyer said, although he didn’t say whether they would be fired or be forced to wear masks.

However, the policy will not be extended to Shake Shack, a hamburger fast-food restaurant that has a number of locations in the northeastern United States.

The policy will be implemented at the Union Square Hospitality Group, which oversees Gramercy Tavern, Manhatta, and Union Square Cafe. The group operates Anchovy Social in Washington, D.C., as well.

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:
Biden wants state, local govts to give $100 to newly vaccinated Americans-Treasury

President "drooling in his pudding cup" could offer me $1,000,000 (insert Austin Powers pic here) and I would tell that decrepit, senile, dementia-riddled sunuvabitch to go have coitus with himself. Up the anal sphincter.....

"...and the horse he rode in on."

Will say that I'm see a lot more masked up people today in CFL, looks like the propaganda is working, it's nothing more than another use of a very effective attack on corporate america to force people into the vaccine regardless of belief.

You are going to have to have it to work, eat, play. Period.

One of my wifes co-workers is working the bosses in the office to force vaccine and masks on everyone, she's a lower level manager and won't come back in (they allow this) until everyone is vaccinated.

The drum beat is getting louder from the vaccinated on how the unvaccinated should be stripped of all rights and basically put under arrest or at least house arrest so they can then fearlessly go about their daily routine. I won’t link to the forum where I’m reading this stuff but it’s absolutely dumbfounding the things they are saying. These people are scared of their own shadow and will be the rest of their lives. I believe this attitude is more widely accepted than we even can think.

White House: Joe Biden Will Surrender to CDC if They Want More Coronavirus Lockdowns

https://www.breitbart.com/poli...ronavirus-lockdowns/

The White House said Thursday that President Joe Biden would obey the Centers for Disease Control — even if they wanted more coronavirus lockdowns.

“We listen to the CDC, the experts, and their guidance,” Deputy Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre said when asked if Biden would support future lockdowns. “The CDC is a body that is very well respected and we follow their guidance.”

When asked why Americans should trust Biden’s support for masking requirements, even for the vaccinated, Jean-Pierre replied, “Because we listen to the scientists, we listen to the experts.”

Jean-Pierre’s response is the latest example of the Biden administration’s surrender to the coronavirus and the CDC’s questionable masking advisories.

A growing number of Republicans continue questioning the CDC for their decision to reinstate masking recommendations, even though the decision was partially based on data from vaccines not approved in the United States, according to the CDC’s Scientific Brief.

The president continues taking aggressive actions to force Americans to get vaccinated, after making it mandatory for Veterans Affairs frontline workers to be vaccinated.

Biden is also expected to announce a plan Thursday afternoon to mandate that all federal employees get the vaccine or submit to regular testing and distancing protocols.

On Wednesday, the White House also reinstated masking guidance for staff and reporters in the building.

Capitol Hill is in an uproar after House Speaker Nancy Pelosi ordered Capitol Police to arrest any staffer or visitor to the capitol complex who is not wearing a mask.

Republicans defied Pelosi’s order, describing her actions as a misuse of power, and not based on science.

“This is INSANE. Might as well come into my office and arrest my entire staff. We are not wearing masks,” Rep. Thomas Massie (R-KY) wrote on Twitter.

Saw this too. How is this not a violation of HIPAA privacy laws? Forcing someone to violate their privacy just to eat at some smug prick's shitty restaurant. But the policy is only at the the more upscale dine-in places...not the fast food Shake Shack, which would likely cut into profits as the un-vaxxed are turned away. So hes a virtue signaling cockbag who doesnt want the un-vaxxed dining at his nicer restaurants and doesnt give two shits about public health.

Despite having been vaxxed, I will NEVER dine at a place that makes you prove it. Fuck you Danny Meyer.

Oh yeah, director of CDC Walensky saying vaccine passports are likely - fuck you too.

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Originally posted by wcb6092:
Restaurant Group’s CEO: Customers Will Have to Give Proof of COVID-19 Vaccination

https://www.theepochtimes.com/...nuHJ05uVztFOLYSTkdax

The founder of Shake Shack, Danny Meyer, said his Union Square Hospitality Group will require indoor diners and drinkers at its restaurants to show that they’ve been vaccinated against COVID-19.

Employees will also have to get the vaccine, Meyer said, although he didn’t say whether they would be fired or be forced to wear masks.

However, the policy will not be extended to Shake Shack, a hamburger fast-food restaurant that has a number of locations in the northeastern United States.

The policy will be implemented at the Union Square Hospitality Group, which oversees Gramercy Tavern, Manhatta, and Union Square Cafe. The group operates Anchovy Social in Washington, D.C., as well.

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/...nnouncement-n2593288

Speaking from the White House Thursday afternoon, President Joe Biden announced new Wuhan coronavirus vaccine, testing and mask mandates for all federal government employees

"Every federal government employee and onsite contractor will be asked to attest to their vaccination status. Anyone who does not attest to being fully vaccinated will be required to wear a mask on the job no matter their geographic location, physically distance from all other employees and visitors, comply with a weekly or twice weekly screening testing requirement, and be subject to restrictions on official travel," the White House released in a fact sheet shortly before the announcement.

"The federal government employs more than 4 million Americans, including over 2 million in the federal civilian workforce, throughout our country and across the world. These rules should not only apply to federal workers and onsite contractors. President Biden is directing his team to take steps to apply similar standards to all federal contractors. The Administration will encourage employers across the private sector to follow this strong model."

Biden is also instructing the Department of Defense to mandate the vaccine for the U.S. military.

"Today, the President will announce that he is directing the Department of Defense to look into how and when they will add COVID-19 vaccination to the list of required vaccinations for members of the military," the White House released.

Regarding Danny Meyer. Is this guy stupid or something? Has he forgotten how restaurants actually work? That you need to draw as many people as you possibly can? I predict this lasts about a week if that.

Virtue signaling dumb ass

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Regarding Danny Meyer. Is this guy stupid or something?

Well... he did work in Chicago as Cook County Field Director for John Anderson's 1980 independent presidential campaign.

This covid chaos is increasing during the peak of the summer heat. The fall \ winter with the cold and flu season will be horrendous.

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Originally posted by chellim1:

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Regarding Danny Meyer. Is this guy stupid or something?

Well... he did work in Chicago as Cook County Field Director for John Anderson's 1980 independent presidential campaign.

WTF, how could you possibly expect a server/greeter to enforce this?