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And tell me what 2nd Amendment rights I'm missing out on?


The right to sell/loan a firearm to a friend without asking for the government’s permission. The right to not be “red flagged.” There’s two rather big ones that differentiate our two states. I hope OR can beat back the AWB on the horizon. Hell, I hope Utah can keep it at bay as well.



How about this?

As an out-of-Stater, OR may as well be CA. I can't carry, can't drive into the state with access to a weapon, etc. I must be dis-armed.

I'll vacation in Utah any day. There, I have no restrictions. That's a big deal to me.


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I find it surprising that anybody who has payed any political attention the past 3 1/2 years could not see how this virus was being used almost from the start.

I think many here just enjoyed the analytical facet of it. The number crunching and extrapolations. Posting charts and graphs. Predictions and projections. All wasted time except maybe for the value contained in keeping the mind occupied. All this was based on garbage numbers from the start.

The numbers of deaths on 1point3 acres or anywhere else are not really deaths they are the number of death certificates showing Covid as the cause of death. The real numbers will never be known which is tragic in it self because this could have been very valuable data going forward.

The most troubling thing in all this to me is how firmly local government can put their boot heel on the throat of the economy and the people with little to no push back and even full approval and compliance from the vast majority.

Just as this has virus opened the eyes of some people (not near enough) as to what can be done by the government I'm willing to bet the eyes of the government are now fully wide opened as to what they can do with little resistance. All they need is a boogeyman.


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Originally posted by SIG228:
And tell me what 2nd Amendment rights I'm missing out on?


The right to sell/loan a firearm to a friend without asking for the government’s permission. The right to not be “red flagged.” There’s two rather big ones that differentiate our two states. I hope OR can beat back the AWB on the horizon. Hell, I hope Utah can keep it at bay as well.



How about this?

As an out-of-Stater, OR may as well be CA. I can't carry, can't drive into the state with access to a weapon, etc. I must be dis-armed.

I'll vacation in Utah any day. There, I have no restrictions. That's a big deal to me.



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Originally posted by lastmanstanding:
I find it surprising that anybody who has payed any political attention the past 3 1/2 years could not see how this virus was being used almost from the start.

I think many here just enjoyed the analytical facet of it. The number crunching and extrapolations. Posting charts and graphs. Predictions and projections. All wasted time except maybe for the value contained in keeping the mind occupied. All this was based on garbage numbers from the start.

The numbers of deaths on 1point3 acres or anywhere else are not really deaths they are the number of death certificates showing Covid as the cause of death. The real numbers will never be known which is tragic in it self because this could have been very valuable data going forward.

The most troubling thing in all this to me is how firmly local government can put their boot heel on the throat of the economy and the people with little to no push back and even full approval and compliance from the vast majority.

Just as this has virus opened the eyes of some people (not near enough) as to what can be done by the government I'm willing to bet the eyes of the government are now fully wide opened as to what they can do with little resistance. All they need is a boogeyman.


Just had to bold that part, because it's the most important part. Dictators don't like to give up power once they get their hands on it. People keep talking about the new normal, are we going to shake hands or not anymore? IDGAF. How about these governors ticketing people for going to church and listening to a FM broadcast from their cars at the same time releasing prisoners from their cells? Which one is more dangerous? The robber or granny who doesn't know how to stream the sermon? It's all a power grab.

I may disagree with you on how serious this is or not. The one thing I can say is these governors need to be removed from office the second the dust settles.



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I dont have any real faith that the petition will gain traction. But it does show a growing push back.

It's a Change.org petition. It has no teeth, other than perhaps reflecting growing dissatisfaction with Whitler.



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9 Apr 2020 may have been the peak "deaths per day" in NY state.

If the trend continues, NY may be on the path to plateau over the next 2 weeks
 
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The one thing I can say is these governors need to be removed from office the second the dust settles.


Sooner if we can, including the jerk here in VA.




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I wonder how many people have died of pneumonia or influenza in NY in the past 60 days....

of course we're being manipulated
 
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At this point, as each day passes with fewer and fewer deaths, and it's obvious this isn't the plague, it is obvious this whole scamdemic has turned into a political fiasco.


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I wonder how many people have died of pneumonia or influenza in NY in the past 60 days....

of course we're being manipulated


Ding ding ding!

So no deaths from flu...none...seems fishy to me....or other causes....



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So no deaths from flu...none...seems fishy to me....or other causes....


Is there a way to check this by state?




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Satire? Or isn't it? (it is Babylon Bee).

'Liberal Arts Degrees' Renamed 'Non-Essential Worker Degrees'

U.S.—More colleges across the country have been renaming their liberal arts degrees "non-essential worker degrees" in a bid to be more honest about what exactly the course of study entails.

"We wanted to be a little more honest about what you can expect from a liberal arts program -- sorry, a non-essential worker program," said Charles C. Kettlebrook, Dean of Winstonhamington University in Philadelphia. "Whenever people need to be sent home, to be frank, you'll be the first to go. It will be kind of nice for you, sometimes, actually, since you'll get to stay home and collect a check from the government instead of going out and being productive."

The colleges confirmed that nothing has changed in the actual studies being offered by the liberal arts programs, but now they can't be sued for false advertising. "You'll know right from the get-go that the pottery, French literature, or zero-gravity space station basket weaving classes you're taking are completely useless and non-essential."



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So no deaths from flu...none...seems fishy to me....or other causes....


Is there a way to check this by state?


I posted this on page 368. This is for New York

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

Well, you can start here. This is from the New York State Department of Health. It is their weekly influenza surveillance report.

2018-2019

https://www.health.ny.gov/dise...03-30_flu_report.pdf

2019-2020

https://www.health.ny.gov/dise...ort_current_week.pdf

Those are just screenshots of one page. There's more in the report at the links.


Right to practically freaking zero the last week of March.



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https://hotair.com/archives/ed...oronavirus-lab-2018/

In January 2018, the U.S. Embassy in Beijing took the unusual step of repeatedly sending U.S. science diplomats to the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV), which had in 2015 become China’s first laboratory to achieve the highest level of international bioresearch safety (known as BSL-4). WIV issued a news release in English about the last of these visits, which occurred on March 27, 2018. The U.S. delegation was led by Jamison Fouss, the consule general in Wuhan, and Rick Switzer, the embassy’s counselor of environment, science, technology and health. Last week, WIV erased that statement from its website, though it remains archived on the Internet.

What the U.S. officials learned during their visits concerned them so much that they dispatched two diplomatic cables categorized as Sensitive But Unclassified back to Washington. The cables warned about safety and management weaknesses at the WIV lab and proposed more attention and help. The first cable, which I obtained, also warns that the lab’s work on bat coronaviruses and their potential human transmission represented a risk of a new SARS-like pandemic.

“During interactions with scientists at the WIV laboratory, they noted the new lab has a serious shortage of appropriately trained technicians and investigators needed to safely operate this high-containment laboratory,” states the Jan. 19, 2018, cable, which was drafted by two officials from the embassy’s environment, science and health sections who met with the WIV scientists.
 
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My nurse buddy who was in a room for a week with an intubated patient who tested positive for corona virus just got his results back....


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Unfocused restrictions are crushing the health care industry. Here in Michigan, hospital systems are closing floors and furloughing thousands.

Even in the metro Detroit area where hospitals are at capacity treating covid patients, they are hemorrhaging cash.

Beaumont Hospital System is one of the largest systems, usually profiting about $16 million per month. Currently they are losing $100 million in cash each month.

Too much being on standby has resulted in gross under utilization of our health care industry.

In Michigan, we have 3 more weeks of statewide lockdown. No attempts have been made to only address restrictions where there is a critical need. Instead they apply them statewide. FYI, most of Michigan's population is in the small southeastern corner. The rest of the state is very rural, lower populations.

The governor has failed to adapt as this has developed.
 
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https://hotair.com/archives/ed...oronavirus-lab-2018/

In January 2018, the U.S. Embassy in Beijing took the unusual step of repeatedly sending U.S. science diplomats to the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV), which had in 2015 become China’s first laboratory to achieve the highest level of international bioresearch safety (known as BSL-4). WIV issued a news release in English about the last of these visits, which occurred on March 27, 2018. The U.S. delegation was led by Jamison Fouss, the consule general in Wuhan, and Rick Switzer, the embassy’s counselor of environment, science, technology and health. Last week, WIV erased that statement from its website, though it remains archived on the Internet.

What the U.S. officials learned during their visits concerned them so much that they dispatched two diplomatic cables categorized as Sensitive But Unclassified back to Washington. The cables warned about safety and management weaknesses at the WIV lab and proposed more attention and help. The first cable, which I obtained, also warns that the lab’s work on bat coronaviruses and their potential human transmission represented a risk of a new SARS-like pandemic.

“During interactions with scientists at the WIV laboratory, they noted the new lab has a serious shortage of appropriately trained technicians and investigators needed to safely operate this high-containment laboratory,” states the Jan. 19, 2018, cable, which was drafted by two officials from the embassy’s environment, science and health sections who met with the WIV scientists.


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We should horde Duke's mayo now.

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Duke's Mayo Employees Furloughed due to COVID-19

Parent Company of Duke's Mayonnaise, Sauer Brands Inc., announced they will have to furlough employees.

The news came down Monday. 131 employees will be furloughed nationwide, 97 of which work here in Mauldin.

Sauer said the furloughs are temporary.

President and CEO Martin Kelly said “We know this is a difficult time for everybody, particularly those who are directly affected, and we regret that circumstances have made this action necessary.”

Employees will be paid through Friday April 17th and eligible to file for unemployment benefits.

The company is keeping employee's health insurance intact and said they will cover their contribution costs of the benefits for the next 2 months.







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Right to practically freaking zero the last week of March.



While that's conspicious compared to the last three seasons, it's actually not unusual if you go further back. The same chart from the 2012/13 report shows similar or lower numbers at that point for the three preceding seasons. In 2011/12 the flu seems to have been almost a no-show with just 4,400 cases for the whole season. With over 157,000, the current one has actually been fairly serious, and I suspect that contributed to the rapid drop-off - compared to previous years, more people got it faster, so it burned out quickly.
 
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There's a lot of people around here saying fuck it and going back to work this week. There's been more traffic on the roads and I even see stores advertising with big banners that they are open again. The people who are too afraid to leave their houses can stay home all they want but the rest of us have had enough. The way it should have been all along.
Seems like the political charade is almost over.
I still find it odd that people can be so brainwashed by the media still. I hear otherwise intelligent people parroting what the MSM told them to say.
"You got to stay home so I don't get sick"
"If you're out and about and get sick then I won't be able to get a spot in the hospital when I get sick"
Well chief, you do you and leave me the hell out of it.
 
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