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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

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Originally posted by SIG228:

You keep saying democrat governor's. What did your illustrious Governor Herbert do in terms of travel?
Are people able to gather or worship there as they choose right now? Private businesses closed at his direction? They're all one and the same; power hungry assholes who ignore the Constitution.

You're seriously comparing Herbert (who I certainly have no love for and don't trust) to these fascist democrat governors?

What have they done any different? Explain it to me and maybe answer the questions. Travelers coming into Oregon don't have to file an itinerary, but they do in Utah.

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Originally posted by lkdr1989:
As they say, "Hit back twice as hard"....I guess cnn & msnbc cut away from the briefing because they didn't want their audience to see the video montage:

Love *OUR* President !

Petition to recall governess half-Whitmer of Michigan
http://chng.it/hBHGsfLNGD

^^^^ The WH should pull the press credentials of the vile, low-class blonde who asked the question "Are you doing this voluntarily or did the President coerce you to say that?"

In front of POTUS no less. God, I hate the Press.

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Originally posted by Dakor:
^^^^ The WH should pull the press credentials of the vile, low-class blonde who asked the question "Are you doing this voluntarily or did the President coerce you to say that?"

In front of POTUS no less. God, I hate the Press.

Paula Reid of CBS News

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Originally posted by SIG228:

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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

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Originally posted by SIG228:

You keep saying democrat governor's. What did your illustrious Governor Herbert do in terms of travel?
Are people able to gather or worship there as they choose right now? Private businesses closed at his direction? They're all one and the same; power hungry assholes who ignore the Constitution.

You're seriously comparing Herbert (who I certainly have no love for and don't trust) to these fascist democrat governors?

What have they done any different? Explain it to me and maybe answer the questions. Travelers coming into Oregon don't have to file an itinerary, but they do in Utah.

It's undeniable that Executives have certain broad powers in instances deemed public health emergencies. We're seeing these powers being used in nearly every state in the union. There are obviously opportunities where this power can be abused. Those abuses are on full display by power hungry lunatics like Whitmer and Bashear. Having to fill out a questionnaire to enter a state is certainly questionable and frankly unconstitutional in my opinion, but it is nowhere near the level of constitutional abuse seen coming out of some of these democrat states. I don't know how you even come close to making that comparison.

Do you really want to compare your freedoms in Oregon on a normal day compared to mine in Utah? Sorry, but I wouldn't trade my governor for yours. No thank you.

I hear Governor Herbert has ordered ID's checked at Deer Creek and Jordanelle. If you're not from Wasatch County you'll be turned away. Same with Starvation and Strawberry. He also told people with condos/2nd homes in St. George to stay away.

Tell me what freedoms you have in Utah that I don't have in Oregon? I'm all ears.

PS, I lived in Utah for the first 43 years of my life.

I signed the recall Whitmer petition. Over 200K so far.

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Originally posted by Lefty Sig:
Is Trump really this smart and calculating? I think he is.

It's no accident and he's not stupid. I'll second that and agree "I think he is".

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Originally posted by braillediver:

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Originally posted by Lefty Sig:
Is Trump really this smart and calculating? I think he is.

It's no accident and he's not stupid. I'll second that and agree "I think he is".

I've met many corporate presidents and CEO's in my life, including people like William Clay Ford Jr. They may not look like much, and may not wear it like a jacket, but they are all very intelligent, sharp, and calculating/strategic individuals. They simply don't promote the bumbling double digit IQ guy to that post. They can be a little awkward to talk to, I suspect its because they have much on their minds.

Don't think an idiot builds a billion dollar empire. It takes a lot of sharp moves, strategy, success, and yes failure to make it to that level.

Anyone who calls Donald Trump and idiot is acting on emotion.

Taiwan releases December email to WHO showing unheeded warning about coronavirus

Why are funding a quarter of WHO when they are covering for China?

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Originally posted by SIG228:
I hear Governor Herbert has ordered ID's checked at Deer Creek and Jordanelle. If you're not from Wasatch County you'll be turned away. Same with Starvation and Strawberry. He also told people with condos/2nd homes in St. George to stay away.

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What exactly is your deal? You seem hellbent on defending these God awful governors. You keep mentioning Herbert but never want to make comparisons to the unconstitutional atrocities being made by the democrats I mentioned. The reason is simple. Because there is no comparison.

And I guarantee you I could pretty much travel anywhere I want outside of my county and not be harrassed.

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Tell me what freedoms you have in Utah that I don't have in Oregon? I'm all ears.

In matters of the 2nd Amendment, plenty. And when it comes to freedoms, it all begins there IMO.

just a little over half a dozen pages since yesterday. yup, this thing is petering out...

Not defending anyone, just telling you you should look in your own backyard before squawking about others.

And tell me what 2nd Amendment rights I'm missing out on? I can own any gun, can, magazine, ammo I could in Utah. Concealed carry is a piece of cake, open carry is legal if you choose, and the county I live in is a 2nd Amendment sanctuary. Maybe try educating yourself before talking about something you know nothing about.

If Satchmo were still with us, he could play us a dirge for the US economy.

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Originally posted by SIG228:
And tell me what 2nd Amendment rights I'm missing out on?

The right to sell/loan a firearm to a friend without asking for the government’s permission. The right to not be “red flagged.” There’s two rather big ones that differentiate our two states. I hope OR can beat back the AWB on the horizon. Hell, I hope Utah can keep it at bay as well.

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Originally posted by sigcrazy7:

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Originally posted by SIG228:
And tell me what 2nd Amendment rights I'm missing out on?

The right to sell/loan a firearm to a friend without asking for the government’s permission. The right to not be “red flagged.” There’s two rather big ones that differentiate our two states. I hope OR can beat back the AWB on the horizon. Hell, I hope Utah can keep it at bay as well.

Neither of which mean dick. Outside of Portland and Salem no one is enforcing either.

Well, if it don't mean dick, I suppose it's alright.

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Originally posted by SIG228:
Neither of which mean dick. Outside of Portland and Salem no one is enforcing either.

At your own peril.

And I'll take Herbert over Brown any day after February 18, 2015.