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Originally posted by tleo205:
The population of the world is 3.85 BILLION and there are 2 Million infections world wide. Why are we ruining lives and business for such a small percentage? Precautions are fine but to willingly and eagerly bring the economy to a halt and bankrupt people is beyond ridiculous!

At this point, as each day passes with fewer and fewer deaths, and it's obvious this isn't the plague, it is obvious this whole scamdemic has turned into a political fiasco.

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Originally posted by arabiancowboy:

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Originally posted by Excam_Man:
How are these stores bypassing the fire code by closing/blocking off exits?

That’s a great question.

We have to have a fire fighter or fire marshal on this board don't we?

I would guess that because the stores are limiting the number of people allowed inside the store, there only has to be a certain number of exits based on the total amount of people inside.

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Originally posted by holdem:

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Originally posted by tleo205:
The population of the world is 3.85 BILLION and there are 2 Million infections world wide.

Umm, check those numbers. That was the population back in the early 70's.

Currently the number is about 7.8 billion.

thanks, I must have looked at the wrong reference. that makes what is going on even worse.

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Originally posted by tleo205:
The population of the world is 3.85 BILLION and there are 2 Million infections world wide. Why are we ruining lives and business for such a small percentage? Precautions are fine but to willingly and eagerly bring the economy to a halt and bankrupt people is beyond ridiculous! This has to stop NOW! I've written my state and federal representatives and all I hear are crickets but maybe if everyone would deluge them they may begin to listen. We should damn sure remember them come next election.

That’s 2 out of 3850 people. Your odds of winning the lottery aren’t that good.

Trying to get my head around this fiasco I looked into the # of Deaths in America during normal times:

In 2017 2,813,503 people died in America:
That's 7708 people a day.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/deaths.htm

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Originally posted by Chris17404:
Thank God for President Trump. I'd really like to see everyone in this thread support and trust in President Trump and the decisions he is making. By trusting in him, you are trusting in all of the advisers in whom he trusts, including Dr. Fauci and Dr. Birx. Trump trusts them. You should too. Let's all get behind the President. He is doing an amazing job during a tremendously challenging time in our country's history. We will all get through this together.

After watching last night's amazing task force press conference, I'm even more confident in our President, and what I mentioned several pages ago is even more applicable. Thank God for President Trump.

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Originally posted by Chris17404:
After watching last night's amazing task force press conference, I'm even more confident in our President, and what I mentioned several pages ago is even more applicable. Thank God for President Trump.

Yes, he crushed it.

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Originally posted by Jimineer:
That’s 2 out of 3850 people. Your odds of winning the lottery aren’t that good.

At 68 per million deaths, a covid fatality is far more likely than hitting the Pennsylvania Cash 5 at 1/970,000.

On the other hand, with reasonable care, your odds definitely improve. Plenty of people are working normal hours without picking up the virus.

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Originally posted by myrottiety:
Went by Cabelas the other day grabbed some 12GA for a range trip. They were counting the number of people that came into the store and the number that went out. I'm assuming this was to track density of the foot traffic? Found it strange?

Someone told me yesterday 5 or 10 people per 1000 sq ft inside buildings. Just what I heard not sure if this is true but seems logical from what you saw.

Morons, morons everywhere...

This will be studied in the future as a remarkable case of mass hysteria.

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Originally posted by holdem:

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Originally posted by arabiancowboy:

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Originally posted by Excam_Man:
How are these stores bypassing the fire code by closing/blocking off exits?

I went to Safeway yesterday and thought about asking the manager about that as well as the stupid one way shit. How is it unsafe for two way traffic on the ends but not in the middle? How about the fact that you have to swerve between the socially distanced people checking out blocking the isles?

I wanted to see if they got any more bread flour back in stock I got ready to travel the isle going the correct direction, flour is all the way at the end 4 or 5 people sitting there blocking the isle just staring at the shelves, not sure what they were doing, just staring like androids waiting for their program to be activated. I threw caution to the wind went down the next empty isle against traffic, turned and went up the other isle. All of a sudden four of them snapped into motion like the Borg had just sent it's commands to them. Every single one gave me a dirty look. I gave em a shit eating grins, but it wasn't until two had passed that it dawned on me they couldn't see my smile do to my mask. So I winked at the last two, they looked like I just shot their puppies.

Don't get me wrong, I wear a mask, gloves, leave my phone in my car, and have a procedure so that I don't touch car/keys, wallet, payment methods, etc with gloves hands to avoid cross contamination. Thing is I choose to do what I want to avoid the plague, I detest this TSA-like security theater. None of the protocols put in place actually do anything. That check out girl with the latex gloves on, she's been wearing them for three hours, touching money, everyone's groceries, her face, scratching that itchy nose.

It's all for fucking show. Those wipes to wipe the handles of carts, fucking useless, the active ingredients only affect some bacteria, not viruses.

The Food Lion near me, they at least have a spray bottle with some colored liquids inside of it, soapy water or diluted bleach would be way more effective than the bacterial wipes. I grab the sprayer bottle with a paper towel, spray, set bottle down, then wipe cart handle with fresh paper towels. I watch so many come in, get cart, bring cart to bottle/towels, pick up bottle, spray cart, then wipe down. I get really dirty looks when I tell people, you realize you just wiped down a cart handle you've already touched AND touched the trigger on the sprayer bottle that every patron before you had touched. They don't even respond, just glare at me.

It's all a show..

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Originally posted by feersum dreadnaught:
Morons, morons everywhere...

So... what do we pay the police and sheriff (and courts) to do?
When we get to the point of vigilante justice because we don't get it from government, can we stop paying for what we are not getting?

President Trump laid a beatdown on these screeching harpies yesterday like I haven’t seen in a long time!

This was his Coronavirus Taskforce Briefing summed up in picture form:

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Originally posted by Skins2881:

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Originally posted by sdy:
...a coordinated regional reopening of their economies after the coronavirus pandemic subsides.

....

There is no news there since they don't say when.

Knowing these Commies running these Northeast states and I’m under the thumb of one of them, it will be....oh...around Wednesday November 4th, 2020.

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Originally posted by Skins2881:
It's all for fucking show. Those wipes to wipe the handles of carts, fucking useless, the active ingredients only affect some bacteria, not viruses.

The Food Lion near me, they at least have a spray bottle with some colored liquids inside of it, soapy water or diluted bleach would be way more effective than the bacterial wipes.

CDC says 1/3 cup of bleach per gallon of water is effective for cleaning/sanitizing...

I wrote that, and then I read it - "CDC says". Never mind, common sense says bleach is an effective oxidizer, and good for killing all kinds of heebie-jeebies.

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Originally posted by feersum dreadnaught:

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Originally posted by Skins2881:
It's all for fucking show. Those wipes to wipe the handles of carts, fucking useless, the active ingredients only affect some bacteria, not viruses.

The Food Lion near me, they at least have a spray bottle with some colored liquids inside of it, soapy water or diluted bleach would be way more effective than the bacterial wipes.

CDC says 1/3 cup of bleach per gallon of water is effective for cleaning/sanitizing...

I wrote that, and then I read it - "CDC says". Never mind, common sense says bleach is an effective oxidizer, and good for killing all kinds of heebie-jeebies.

Yep, I've always been taught (and used) the 1 part bleach to 10 parts water to sanitize stuff and it works fine.

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Originally posted by bdylan:
This will be studied in the future as a remarkable case of mass hysteria.

Some of us cannot be counted among the "mass" and, thankfully, I am one of those.

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Originally posted by tleo205:

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Originally posted by feersum dreadnaught:

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Originally posted by Skins2881:
It's all for fucking show. Those wipes to wipe the handles of carts, fucking useless, the active ingredients only affect some bacteria, not viruses.

The Food Lion near me, they at least have a spray bottle with some colored liquids inside of it, soapy water or diluted bleach would be way more effective than the bacterial wipes.

CDC says 1/3 cup of bleach per gallon of water is effective for cleaning/sanitizing...

I wrote that, and then I read it - "CDC says". Never mind, common sense says bleach is an effective oxidizer, and good for killing all kinds of heebie-jeebies.

Yep, I've always been taught (and used) the 1 part bleach to 10 parts water to sanitize stuff and it works fine.

Yes and no. Bleach will "kill" many things, but others it just removes the color from and gives the appearance that things are "killed" while in fact, they're still there only the color has been removed. This is very common when it comes to mold.

Great, now we are dealing with moldy COVID19? Fuck the world is over, we are all dead!

My point was not best methods, but the fact these protocols are all theater, TSA on steroids. They are not effective. The checkout girl hasn't saved anyone.