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Ironic, years ago as a young burglary detective I made a prediction that someday law abiding citizens would be living behind bars while criminals freely roamed the streets.

I was close to that in the 1980's with many homes having 'burglar bars' and guard dogs.

Now criminals are being released from incarceration while law abiding citizens are ordered locked up in their homes by liberal governors.

And we have humans wearing muzzles... Roll Eyes

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She spoke on the rising outrage in this state, ...

My wife earlier told me Whitless' said she's "having sleepless nights." I'll just bet she is. She's been getting increasing push-back on her Draconian measures. I think I predicted earlier I'd give her new rules about a week, two at the outside, before people started to rebel. Tomorrow it'll have been a week.

There's a campaign to hold a drive-in/drive-by protest in the State Capital on Wednesday. I'm seriously thinking of attending.

What am I bet Whitmer calls out the State Police to restrict access to Capital grounds?



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I wouldn't touch that bet. Big Grin
 
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Fauci has clarified his comments from his media appearance over the weekend which the media of course took and used to bash the President over the head with.

He basically just put the media in its place during the briefing today. I'm one of the guys who doesn't trust Fauci (at least as far as his advice, not so much his motivation; I do think he means well) and I think he's been dead wrong on all of this from the beginning, but good for him for shutting up the media.


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This is the ONLY thing our POS governor cares about:





effin monster...





 
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The media, the hard left, and the Democrats (but I repeat myself) all said that at the first large crisis, President Trump would use that as his Reichstag moment and make a huge dictatorial power grab. As it turns out, Trump did nothing even close to that, quite the contrary in fact. Instead, it is all these democrat governors who are making a huge power grab and treading on the Constitution. That nasty woman Whitmer is the poster child (poster Hitler) for all these tyrannical governors. So far she's been the worst of the bunch.

These are the times when people's true colors come out.


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I love how Trump is giving it to the media at ten press conference. He is pissed.
It's so nice to have a LEADER.



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^^^^^

That video montage was fantastic. Stuff their words right down their throats.
 
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Leni Riefenstahl would be proud of our mainstream media. Outright propaganda. This is from MSN. Nice try, but we all know the president makes Fauci look like a dwarf.

 
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Think it’s bad here, or in Italy or Spain?

Here’s the disaster that’s happening in France.

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The first bad decision was that, in contrast to the European Union fantasies, borders apparently do matter. France never closed them; instead it allowed large numbers of potential virus-carriers to enter the country.

In January 2020, several hundred thousand masks were available, but on February 19, President Macron decoded to send them to Wuhan, as a "gesture of solidarity with the Chinese people".... The French government announced that masks would be available soon, but by the end of March, most doctors and caregivers still had no masks. Several doctors fell ill. As of April 10, eight have died from COVID-19 and several others are in critical condition. On March 20, the Government's spokeswoman, Sibeth N'Diaye, incorrectly said, "masks are essentially useless".

On February 25, a renowned French epidemiologist, Professor Didier Raoult... published a video... In it, he said he had found a treatment quickly to end the pandemic: hydroxychloroquine... (used with azithromycin)... On April 10, Professor Raoult published data showing that he had treated and cured 2,401 patients.

Immediately, Olivier Veran, the new French minister of health, said that Professor Raoult's statements were "unacceptable" and that the treatment he was proposing was "worthless".... In an attempt to quell the controversy, the French government, by decree, authorized Professor Raoult's treatment in "military hospitals" for "patients reaching the acute phase of the disease" but prohibited family doctors from prescribing hydroxychloroquine. Professor Raoult replied that the treatment was only effective if administered "before the disease reaches its acute phase". [Emphasis added]

France's mainstream media would do well to fight harder for physicians to be able supply hydroxychloroquine with azithromycin and zinc sulfate. The French media would also do well to be more aware of the dirty game China is playing.

"The behavior of our leaders has been marked by unpreparedness, casualness, cynicism, and many of their acts imply the enforcement of the criminal law. Deliberate endangerment of the lives of others and failure to provide assistance to people in danger are obvious... In war, generals who are judged incompetent are sometimes shot. The President and other officials are well aware of this." — Regis de Castelnau, attorney, in Marianne, a center-left magazine, April 4, 2020.


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Sigalert— Pulse Ox’s are a good way of spot checking O2 levels. They do have some limits but should not apply in your situation.
There are things that affect a reading. Poor circulation in a digit. Low perfusion due to heart disease. Check readings in more than 1 place/finger.
A normal person should be mid/high 90s. Someone with significant COPD/heart disease may be lower.
Usually O2 isn’t prescribed until Ox readings are lower than 90% outside of hospital use. Hospitals routinely prescribe O2 at levels slightly higher than 90% or to raise it into mid 90s. You don’t qualify for home O2 per Medicare quidelines until your PO readings are 88-89%.
Don’t go crazy if the first number you see isn’t what you’d hoped for. Try a different finger. Try most of your fingers and see if they are the same. If low, then worry.
Also notice what the HR is. Normal is 60-80. But many are higher, some lower.
Look for trends in PO and HR levels. Also what they are walking in house. The more info you have the easier it is to really judge what’s going on.
AND don’t check it constantly. I’ve known ppl who can’t fart without checking their PO level. Use it as another tool. Just like BP checks.
Hope this helps.
 
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Think it’s bad here, or in Italy or Spain?

Here’s the disaster that’s happening in France.


And President Macron today extended its country wide lockdown until May 11th.

I'm starting to think that my planned trip to France in July likely won't happen.


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Is Trump really this smart and calculating? I think he is.

In tonight's press conference President Trump declared that he has complete authority over the reopening of the economy and that he has the power to order states to open. But, he said that he didn't think he would have to order them because the voters will compel their governors to reopen. He also said he could have ordered a national shutdown, but left it up to states and localities because they are closer to their specific situations.

So then the knee-jerk Commie media starts pulling the 10th amendment out and saying "states rights", and the President doesn't have this kind of authority.

Weren't they just saying he cost lives by not taking over and mandating a national shutdown, not nationalizing the health care system, and not nationalizing more private businesses under the DPA?

And they need to check the law and precedent, because Trump is absolutely right. They know it because they were "warning" us about how he might abuse his broad emergency powers, which as we all know, he hasn't. He is only invoking them to stop the shutdown. Brilliant.

As usual, the Commies were completely wrong:

https://www.theatlantic.com/ma...gency-powers/576418/

The Alarming Scope of the President’s Emergency Powers

From seizing control of the internet to declaring martial law, President Trump may legally do all kinds of extraordinary things.

Unknown to most Americans, a parallel legal regime allows the president to sidestep many of the constraints that normally apply. The moment the president declares a “national emergency”—a decision that is entirely within his discretion—more than 100 special provisions become available to him. While many of these tee up reasonable responses to genuine emergencies, some appear dangerously suited to a leader bent on amassing or retaining power. For instance, the president can, with the flick of his pen, activate laws allowing him to shut down many kinds of electronic communications inside the United States or freeze Americans’ bank accounts. Other powers are available even without a declaration of emergency, including laws that allow the president to deploy troops inside the country to subdue domestic unrest.

This edifice of extraordinary powers has historically rested on the assumption that the president will act in the country’s best interest when using them. With a handful of noteworthy exceptions, this assumption has held up. But what if a president, backed into a corner and facing electoral defeat or impeachment, were to declare an emergency for the sake of holding on to power? In that scenario, our laws and institutions might not save us from a presidential power grab. They might be what takes us down.
 
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I'm wondering when someone from Michigan is going to stand up and sue the shit out of the governor. There have only been a couple of cases brought so far but it looks like the Judiciary is waiting to make sure the forms were filed correctly and then hammering the Governors and the one stupid mayor playing way out of his league.
 
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Is Trump really this smart and calculating? I think he is.
I agree. He was smart not to do a national lockdown and leave it at the Governors feet.
 
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If these democratic governors weren’t so dumb they would just shut up about their own economic plans to reopen their states. Do they not see that Trump is willing to “fall on the sword” by making the decision himself? If he ends up making the wrong decision then they could pounce on it, especially later in the year.

But no....they have to argue with anything and everything Trump says out of spite. So screw them...let them do their own thing. Maybe it’ll work out in our favor come election time.
 
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The media, the hard left, and the Democrats (but I repeat myself) all said that at the first large crisis, President Trump would use that as his Reichstag moment and make a huge dictatorial power grab. As it turns out, Trump did nothing even close to that, quite the contrary in fact. Instead, it is all these democrat governors who are making a huge power grab and treading on the Constitution. That nasty woman Whitmer is the poster child (poster Hitler) for all these tyrannical governors. So far she's been the worst of the bunch.

These are the times when people's true colors come out.


You keep saying democrat governor's. What did your illustrious Governor Herbert do in terms of travel?
Are people able to gather or worship there as they choose right now? Private businesses closed at his direction? They're all one and the same; power hungry assholes who ignore the Constitution.
 
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As they say, "Hit back twice as hard"....I guess cnn & msnbc cut away from the briefing because they didn't want their audience to see the video montage:




Link to original video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZfoQJ5K_NLM




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You keep saying democrat governor's. What did your illustrious Governor Herbert do in terms of travel?
Are people able to gather or worship there as they choose right now? Private businesses closed at his direction? They're all one and the same; power hungry assholes who ignore the Constitution.


You're seriously comparing Herbert (who I certainly have no love for and don't trust) to these fascist democrat governors?


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