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Yesterday the Florida Department of Health announced it is closing ALL of the state’s monoclonal treatment centers. According to a press release, the reason is that the FDA abruptly, without warning, revoked the existing EUAs for the two most common mABs — Regeneron and bamlanivimab. The FDA’s rationale was that these two mABs are “not effective against Omicron,” although there is no clinical evidence showing the lack of effectiveness, much less a total failure to help. I might add that all the experts agree, and all the studies confirm, that the VACCINES are also not effective against Omicron. So we should revoke their EUAs too, to be consistent, right? Anyone? Bueller? Science! Shut up! Meanwhile, the FDA has green-lighted wide scale distribution of Merck’s Covid pill, Molnupiravir, which according to a December 13 article in the journal Nature, failed to show any more efficacy than a placebo in its final clinical trials. The Nature article’s headline advises, “Merck’s COVID pill loses its lustre: what that means for the pandemic.” Furthermore, the article explains that some scientists are actually worried about Merck’s drug, saying “molnupiravir’s novel mechanism of action has the potential for long-term safety risks.” The drug works by incorporating itself into Covid’s genes and interfering with its ability to replicate. But, according to Nature, “intentionally introducing mutations into viral RNA might create a more dangerous version of SARS-CoV-2, critics say.” Sounds great. Jeff Childers, Coffee & Covid "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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Really going after Ron Johnson with attack TV ads in Wisconsin. There was one right before the Packers game Saturday. | |||
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Let's you know he's over the target. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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ExACTly!!! Question...so with the COVID variants out in the world, Omicron of course being the latest and still active, if I have yet to get the "original" COVID variant or the Delta, Epsilon, Zeta, Eta, Theta, Iota, Kappa, Lambda, Mu, Nu, or Xi variants, is it possible for me to contract "original" COVID or ANY of the aforementioned variants before Omicron? Am I now just limited to the possibility of contracting Omicron ONLY?? I tested <1 several months ago for anti-bodies and I have not gotten sick since this all came about. And BELIEVE ME...I was around THOUSANDS of people in the airport and on the plane from NOV 2020 thru SEP 2021. "If you’re a leader, you lead the way. Not just on the easy ones; you take the tough ones too…” – MAJ Richard D. Winters (1918-2011), E Company, 2nd Battalion, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne "Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil... Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; for they have rejected the law of the Lord Almighty and spurned the word of the Holy One of Israel." - Isaiah 5:20,24 | |||
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COVID-19 in Israel: Fourth dose recommended for ages 18-60 https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-694475 _________________________ "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." Mark Twain | |||
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The definition of "In-san-i-ty". Being demonstrated right before our very eyes......JSMH.  "If you’re a leader, you lead the way. Not just on the easy ones; you take the tough ones too…” – MAJ Richard D. Winters (1918-2011), E Company, 2nd Battalion, 506th Parachute Infantry Regiment, 101st Airborne "Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil... Therefore, as tongues of fire lick up straw and as dry grass sinks down in the flames, so their roots will decay and their flowers blow away like dust; for they have rejected the law of the Lord Almighty and spurned the word of the Holy One of Israel." - Isaiah 5:20,24 | |||
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Dr. John Campbell on Youtube is an excellent source. Omicron has essentially crowded out previous strains in the USA and much of the rest of the world. The chance of you getting a prior strain is essentially zero. Omicron provides robust immunity against prior strains. Prior infection by other strains is protective but not absolute against omicron. | |||
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Damn Just found out that my father-in-law's good friend and college roommate who is a Universal executive in Orlando got whacked hard with Covid and is on a ventilator right now and not expected to make it.  63 years old, in good physical shape/health. Did NOT get vaccinated. They tried all the usual monoclonal antibodies, HCQ, Ivermectin, etc. Nothing is working. Right when I start to doubt my decision to get the Moderna vaccine back in Oct/Nov I hear about this and wonder if the whole "The vaccine will keep you out of the hospital and dying" line IS true after all.  | |||
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Everybody who is NOT jabbed and has complications says the same thing. Everybody who IS jabbed and has complications says what the hell - why did I do it? | |||
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^^^ Right, no one can really know if it reduces the effects in particular people. But... what we do know is that they do have big problems in highly vaxxed countries: Even so, hospitalizations and deaths are spiking in countries like Israel and Denmark. In Israel, the number of severely ill patients has risen eightfold this month, and almost fourfold in the last two weeks - even though the true spike in infections has come only in the last few days, and hospitalizations typically lag infections. In Australia, deaths are up tenfold since in the last four weeks, although from a low base. AND, it is unclear how long that protection will last, and whether when it ends people who have received a third dose will be less or more vulnerable than those who are unvaccinated or have received two doses. https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/an-urgent-warning "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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https://townhall.com/tipsheet/...ies-revoked-n2602323 Florida Governor Ron DeSantis held nothing back Tuesday morning after the Biden administration revoked authorized use of life saving monoclonal antibodies. According to his office, 2000 Floridians sick with Wuhan coronavirus were expecting to receive the treatment today. "Without a shred of clinical data to support this action, Biden has forced trained medical professionals to choose between treating their patients or breaking the law,” DeSantis released in a statement. “This indefensible edict takes treatment out of the hands of medical professionals and will cost some Americans their lives. There are real-world implications to Biden’s medical authoritarianism – Americans’ access to treatments is now subject to the whims of a failing president.” Florida Surgeon General Dr. Joseph Ladapo also weighed in. “In our field of medicine, when someone comes to you seeking a treatment that could save their life, it is essential to have treatment options to ensure health care providers can make the best decisions for their patients," Dr. Ladapo added. “The Federal Government has failed to adequately provide the United States with adequate outpatient treatment options for COVID-19. Now, they are scrambling to cover up a failure to deliver on a promise to ‘shut down the virus.’” The FDA reportedly revoked the authorized use of monoclonal antibodies, which has been used as a life saving treatment against the virus for nearly two years, through a press release and without warning to the states. Florida officials say the move will cost lives. | |||
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From what I have heard early treatment (within 72hrs) of symptoms with ivermectin and HCQ is important. Also supplements of Zinc, Vitamin D3 prior to getting Covid. ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ | |||
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I am sorry to hear that however just as long as he is still alive and breathing there is always hope. From some of the research I have seen after the 8th day with COVD, the lungs are usually inflamed and need higher dosage of antihistamines and / or steroids to help anti-inflammatory response and heal the lungs. I will also say a prayer for his recovery and healing. God Bless  "Always legally conceal carry. At the right place and time, one person can make a positive difference." | |||
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In regards to SDY’s post…How the HELL does this Fucking administration justify denying life saving treatments to people?? They are doing anything they can to try to force people to take the vaccination! Dirty BASTARDS! | |||
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AND, for the people already infected/hospitalized, it's too damn late to vax... sigh...  __________________________________ NRA Benefactor I lost all my weapons in a boating, umm, accident. http://www.aufamily.com/forums/ | |||
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They justify it by claiming it is for "the greater good." The Constitution of the United Stes provides for equal protection under the law, but leftists believe in the Constitution only to the extent that it supports their position, and that is not how it's supposed to work. They play on the fears and ignorance of those terrified of contracting and dying from COVID19. | |||
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I'm thinking that the actions of the Biden administration will be impeachable once the GOP takes over Congress and the Senate. He's killing people with his overreach, so how could it not be? Jim ________________________ "If you can't be a good example, then you'll have to be a horrible warning" -Catherine Aird | |||
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The key to successfully utilizing HCQ and Invermectin is to begin cycling it as soon as symptoms or a positive test occurs. After 4-5 days the effectiveness of these two treatments is much more limited. Once you are sick enough to be admitted to a hospital - it is too late. | |||
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Wait - what about the news reports where someone was in the ICU on their deathbed and ivermectin was finally provided after court order and appeals? these people still recovered. "Wrong does not cease to be wrong because the majority share in it." L.Tolstoy "A government is just a body of people, usually, notably, ungoverned." Shepherd Book | |||
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