Here is the Ivermectin paper mentioned in my post a few posts above

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC8088823/

"Meta-analyses based on 18 randomized controlled treatment trials of ivermectin in COVID-19 have found large, statistically significant reductions in mortality, time to clinical recovery, and time to viral clearance. Furthermore, results from numerous controlled prophylaxis trials report significantly reduced risks of contracting COVID-19 with the regular use of ivermectin. Finally, the many examples of ivermectin distribution campaigns leading to rapid population-wide decreases in morbidity and mortality indicate that an oral agent effective in all phases of COVID-19 has been identified."

Big media widely reported this was a "horse pill" that was deadly to humans.

The big question - why are Democrats so fanatical to not allow doctors prescribe an effective drug ? A safe drug ? Maybe DEMs want this pandemic to last & last

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Today is this thread's second anniversary, and the lying bullshit is still going strong. By this time next year, I hope to see full shelves, no masks, and a Republican-controlled Congress.

From your keyboard to God’s ear.

Personally, I think a lot of folks should be tried, convicted, and publicly executed over this, but that’s not going to happen. Your hopes, on the other hand, seem possible and still very satisfying. Fingers crossed…

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Originally posted by egregore:

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Originally posted by Joe123:

Lighten up. If this must be discussed, do it in a calmer fashion. The guy doesn't need this right now. We are not qualified to be his judges.

Ayup. I’ve made my choices, but I don’t know anyone else’s health or family situation and I’m not about to judge them. I’ll do what works for me and let other do what works for them.

Along the same lines, I much prefer businesses that aren’t buying into Gruesome Newscum’s^H^H, uh, I mean Gavin Newsome’s mandates, but I’m not about to get pissy with the small business that is going along to try to stay in business. If there is an alternative, I’ll go there instead, but I’m not going to give some minimum wage clerk a ration of crud about how stupid we both probably think the mandates are.

Recently Mrs DF and I flew to Tennessee. We used Delta. I'm quite aware of the farce that most masks are.I wore an N95 mask that seals to my face. It was new and in perfect working order. 20 mins into the flight an attendant objected to my mask and insisted I wear one of their approved masks. I complied. The replacement mask was a useless fig leaf of a device from which unfiltered air passed by the bridge of my nose, the sides of my face and under my chin. When I coughed, a rush of air blew right to my seat mate. Ironically I was listening to Orwell's 1984 during the part where he describes the gears and cogs of oppressive bureaucracy and the 2 minutes of hate. When's the last time you read 1984?

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Originally posted by StorminNormin:
I hate it, but I am going to do whatever I have to in order to protect my mom.

Can't blame you for that. The disease affects some people very little and others quite significantly, with the immunocompromised falling into that latter group.

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Originally posted by StorminNormin:
I got the first two Moderna vaccines, ...

My wife and I both passed on the "vaccines," using this logic:

1. My wife is allergic to nearly any- and everything. To the point she one time ended-up being hauled away in an ambulance and in the ICU due to Anaphylaxis. This from a common antibiotic. Given the "vaccines'" questionable efficacy and the potential danger to her, we felt it a poor gamble.

2. The "vaccines" efficacy simply aren't that great, so me getting jabbed wouldn't have significantly improved the odds against me becoming infected and passing it to her. I have a very robust immune system, so my personal risk was probably fairly low. Why should I risk the potential downsides of the "vaccines" for a low return value?

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Originally posted by StorminNormin:
So just know someone you might see in the store wearing a mask might be in a situation like me.

I figure it's not my place to judge people I see in stores or whatever wearing masks. Their reasons are their reasons. I really don't even think twice about it.

(IMO, some of the anti-mask critics are as bad as the pro-mask Karens.)

Now, the people riding in their cars all alone, out walking or riding a bike with nobody anywhere nearby, etc.: That's a different story. Still: If that's what blows their skirts up... but I will shake my head, chuckle, and think "idiot!"

wcb6092, that story on the VA legislature is absolutely infuriating. I can only hope to still be around when petty tyrants like that Lucas woman get their due!

Biden Administration Confirms Canadian and Mexican Truck Drivers Must Show Vaccination Passport Beginning Today

Given the destabilized and tenuous nature of the current supply chain, many people wondered if the Biden administration would actually be stupid enough to follow through with a truck driver vaccination mandate. The answer is yes.

[Dept. of Homeland Security] – [..] “Starting on January 22, 2022, the Department of Homeland Security will require that non-U.S. individuals entering the United States via land ports of entry or ferry terminals along our Northern and Southern borders be fully vaccinated against COVID-19 and be prepared to show related proof of vaccination,” said Secretary Alejandro N. Mayorkas. “These updated travel requirements reflect the Biden-Harris Administration’s commitment to protecting public health while safely facilitating the cross-border trade and travel that is critical to our economy.”

https://theconservativetreehou...omorrow/#more-225672

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Originally posted by Joe123:
Storminnorimin, That was over the top. Sorry.

I appreciate that. Thank you.

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Originally posted by chellim1:
Biden Administration Confirms Canadian and Mexican Truck Drivers Must Show Vaccination Passport Beginning Today

Given the destabilized and tenuous nature of the current supply chain, many people wondered if the Biden administration would actually be stupid enough to follow through with a truck driver vaccination mandate. The answer is yes.

[Dept. of Homeland Security] – [..] “Starting on January 22, 2022, the Department of Homeland Security will require that non-U.S. individuals entering the United States via land ports of entry or ferry terminals along our Northern and Southern borders be fully vaccinated against COVID-19 and be prepared to show related proof of vaccination,” said Secretary Alejandro N. Mayorkas. “These updated travel requirements reflect the Biden-Harris Administration’s commitment to protecting public health while safely facilitating the cross-border trade and travel that is critical to our economy.”

https://theconservativetreehou...omorrow/#more-225672

You'd think these IMBECILES (the Geniuses from the US & CA .gov alike) might get together and get on the same page for the mutual benefit of the populations they govern, which would be the opposite page they're both on currently...But of course, you'd be wrong!

And why the Fuck is Mayorkas even involved and making this announcement anyway? He's Homeland Security and certainly has other shit he should be focused on...Not to mention that the 'Homeland' is NOT at risk from an invasion by Canadian truckers! Is Butt-gig still out on 'Maternity Leave' learning how to breastfeed?

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Originally posted by chellim1:
Biden Administration Confirms Canadian and Mexican Truck Drivers Must Show Vaccination Passport Beginning Today

 “These updated travel requirements reflect the Biden-Harris Administration’s commitment to protecting public health while safely facilitating the cross-border trade and travel that is critical to our economy.”

Yes, because some dude all by himself in the cab of a truck hauling a bunch of much needed things to stock America’s bare shelves is a threat to public health. Yeah and if they do have their vaccination, we all know how well that works! They couldn’t screw this up worse if they tried….well maybe they could.

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Originally posted by chellim1:
Biden Administration Confirms Canadian and Mexican Truck Drivers Must Show Vaccination Passport Beginning Today

Given the destabilized and tenuous nature of the current supply chain, many people wondered if the Biden administration would actually be stupid enough to follow through with a truck driver vaccination mandate. The answer is yes.

[Dept. of Homeland Security] – [..] “Starting on January 22, 2022, the Department of Homeland Security will require that non-U.S. individuals entering the United States via land ports of entry or ferry terminals along our Northern and Southern borders be fully vaccinated against COVID-19 and be prepared to show related proof of vaccination,” said Secretary Alejandro N. Mayorkas. “These updated travel requirements reflect the Biden-Harris Administration’s commitment to protecting public health while safely facilitating the cross-border trade and travel that is critical to our economy.”

https://theconservativetreehou...omorrow/#more-225672

This ought to do wonders at 'solving' our supply chain problems.

Is it just me or is this bitch just straight-up crazy?

Here the CDC has lowered quarantine recommendations to 5 days, down from 10 and that down from the original 14. This power-mad lunatic is doubling down and INCREASING that in New Zealand

Jacinda Ardern will force household Covid contacts to isolate for 24 DAYS in new crackdown as NZ braces for Omicron outbreak

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Originally posted by PASig:
Is it just me or is this bitch just straight-up crazy?

Here the CDC has lowered quarantine recommendations to 5 days, down from 10 and that down from the original 14. This power-mad lunatic is doubling down and INCREASING that in New Zealand

Jacinda Ardern will force household Covid contacts to isolate for 24 DAYS in new crackdown as NZ braces for Omicron outbreak

I am 11 days from my first symptoms and I still test positive on a rapid antigen test. I know I will test positive for weeks on a more sensitive PCR test.

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Originally posted by StorminNormin:

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Originally posted by chellim1:
Biden Administration Confirms Canadian and Mexican Truck Drivers Must Show Vaccination Passport Beginning Today

“These updated travel requirements reflect the Biden-Harris Administration’s commitment to protecting public health while safely facilitating the cross-border trade and travel that is critical to our economy.”

Yes, because some dude all by himself in the cab of a truck hauling a bunch of much needed things to stock America’s bare shelves is a threat to public health. Yeah and if they do have their vaccination, we all know how well that works! They couldn’t screw this up worse if they tried….well maybe they could.

What makes you think their actions aren’t intentional?

Minor thread drift: @ StorminNormin, I thank you kindly for sending me D3 sir. Took my 1st one today. I am pleased to get this and very grateful.

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Originally posted by StorminNormin:

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Originally posted by PASig:
Is it just me or is this bitch just straight-up crazy?

Here the CDC has lowered quarantine recommendations to 5 days, down from 10 and that down from the original 14. This power-mad lunatic is doubling down and INCREASING that in New Zealand

Jacinda Ardern will force household Covid contacts to isolate for 24 DAYS in new crackdown as NZ braces for Omicron outbreak

I am 11 days from my first symptoms and I still test positive on a rapid antigen test. I know I will test positive for weeks on a more sensitive PCR test.

Ok and…?

You aren’t INFECTIOUS for weeks and weeks after getting it, are you? Isn’t the whole concept of quarantine to separate infectious people from healthy people?

Why did our CDC drop quarantine to 5 days then?

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Originally posted by HuskySig:

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Originally posted by StorminNormin:

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Originally posted by chellim1:
Biden Administration Confirms Canadian and Mexican Truck Drivers Must Show Vaccination Passport Beginning Today

“These updated travel requirements reflect the Biden-Harris Administration’s commitment to protecting public health while safely facilitating the cross-border trade and travel that is critical to our economy.”

Yes, because some dude all by himself in the cab of a truck hauling a bunch of much needed things to stock America’s bare shelves is a threat to public health. Yeah and if they do have their vaccination, we all know how well that works! They couldn’t screw this up worse if they tried….well maybe they could.

What makes you think their actions aren’t intentional?

I wouldn’t put it past our current administration.

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Originally posted by David Lee:
Minor thread drift: @ StorminNormin, I thank you kindly for sending me D3 sir. Took my 1st one today. I am pleased to get this and very grateful.

Anytime David, stay healthy.

The population of Israel is 9-1/2 million and Bennett is saying 2-4 million Israelis will get infected this go around. His solution is booster shots.


Israel, One of Most Vaccinated Countries in the World, Sets New COVID-19 Case Record

https://www.theepochtimes.com/...Fq3CnejNXziSWCxyhsIp

The Israeli Ministry of Health announced this week that more than 72,000 people tested positive for the CCP (Chinese Communist Party) virus, the largest rise in infections since the start of the pandemic.

Total active cases in the country rose to nearly 400,000 people, of whom 533 are currently hospitalized in critical condition, according to a Jan. 19 statement posted by the country’s health ministry.

Israeli Prime Minister Naftali Bennett warned this month that CCP virus cases are expected to increase rapidly amid the spread of the Omicron variant, as he presented government data that indicates two to four million Israelis are predicted to be infected with COVID-19 during the current outbreak.

“Information presented at a cabinet meeting indicates that in Israel, overall 2–4 million citizens will be infected in the current wave,” Bennett’s statement reads.

Israel, which has one of the highest COVID-19 vaccination rates in the world with already nearly half of its citizens having received three shots, is leading the world in new daily cases per capita, according to Jan. 20 data.

Eran Segal, a biologist at the Weizmann Institute of Science, verified this data, explaining that after comparing the numbers of each country’s seven-day running average, Israel is at the top, The Times of Israel reported.

The country’s health ministry announced last week it started administering second boosters to the most vulnerable group of people and already 500,000 people have received the fourth shot. In total, nearly 73 percent of Israeli’s have received at least one dose while roughly 66 percent are fully vaccinated, according to government data.

Israel was among the first countries to roll out vaccines a year ago and began widely offering third doses last summer in a bid to contain the Delta variant. Authorities have said they hope the fourth shot will blunt a wave of infections driven by Omicron.

An Israeli researcher said on Jan. 17 a second booster dose of Pfizer’s COVID-19 vaccine does induce antibodies, but likely not at a level high enough to protect recipients against infection from Omicron. Much of Israel’s COVID-19 vaccination program uses the Pfizer jab.

“Two weeks after administering the fourth vaccine, we see a good increase in the antibodies, higher than after the third dose, but not high enough against Omicron,” lead researcher Prof. Gili Regev-Yochay told reporters in an online briefing.

Omicron has proven better at evading antibodies induced by COVID-19 vaccines than earlier strains and has infected millions of vaccinated people around the world in recent weeks, sparking a renewed effort to get people boosted.

On Tuesday, Bennett again encouraged Israelis to get jabbed. The leader promoted earlier preliminary results from a Sheba Medical Center study that showed a high level of antibodies a week after workers received the fourth dose, touting “a five-fold increase in the number of antibodies” in the recipient of the vaccine.

The early data indeed indicated that the booster restored some of the lost protection against infection, but that the protection again dropped after just a few weeks. Similar results have come in for the second booster, according to preliminary results from the Sheba study, which have not yet been published.

Looked back a few pages to see if this was mentioned but didn't see anything.

California Legislature considering a bill to let older children get the vaccination without parental consent.