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Originally posted by PASig:
Damn

Just found out that my father-in-law's good friend and college roommate who is a Universal executive in Orlando got whacked hard with Covid and is on a ventilator right now and not expected to make it.

63 years old, in good physical shape/health. Did NOT get vaccinated. They tried all the usual monoclonal antibodies, HCQ, Ivermectin, etc. Nothing is working.

Right when I start to doubt my decision to get the Moderna vaccine back in Oct/Nov I hear about this and wonder if the whole "The vaccine will keep you out of the hospital and dying" line IS true after all.

From what I have heard early treatment (within 72hrs) of symptoms with ivermectin and HCQ is important. Also supplements of Zinc, Vitamin D3 prior to getting Covid.

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Originally posted by PASig:
Damn

Just found out that my father-in-law's good friend and college roommate who is a Universal executive in Orlando got whacked hard with Covid and is on a ventilator right now and not expected to make it.

63 years old, in good physical shape/health. Did NOT get vaccinated. They tried all the usual monoclonal antibodies, HCQ, Ivermectin, etc. Nothing is working.

Right when I start to doubt my decision to get the Moderna vaccine back in Oct/Nov I hear about this and wonder if the whole "The vaccine will keep you out of the hospital and dying" line IS true after all.

I am sorry to hear that however just as long as he is still alive and breathing there is always hope. From some of the research I have seen after the 8th day with COVD, the lungs are usually inflamed and need higher dosage of antihistamines and / or steroids to help anti-inflammatory response and heal the lungs. I will also say a prayer for his recovery and healing.
God Bless

In regards to SDY’s post…How the HELL does this Fucking administration justify denying life saving treatments to people?? They are doing anything they can to try to force people to take the vaccination! Dirty BASTARDS!

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Originally posted by BOATTRASH1:
In regards to SDY’s post…How the HELL does this Fucking administration justify denying life saving treatments to people?? They are doing anything they can to try to force people to take the vaccination! Dirty BASTARDS!

AND, for the people already infected/hospitalized, it's too damn late to vax... sigh...

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Originally posted by BOATTRASH1:
How the HELL does this Fucking administration justify denying life saving treatments to people??

They justify it by claiming it is for "the greater good."

The Constitution of the United Stes provides for equal protection under the law, but leftists believe in the Constitution only to the extent that it supports their position, and that is not how it's supposed to work. They play on the fears and ignorance of those terrified of contracting and dying from COVID19.

I'm thinking that the actions of the Biden administration will be impeachable once the GOP takes over Congress and the Senate. He's killing people with his overreach, so how could it not be?

Jim

The key to successfully utilizing HCQ and Invermectin is to begin cycling it as soon as symptoms or a positive test occurs. After 4-5 days the effectiveness of these two treatments is much more limited. Once you are sick enough to be admitted to a hospital - it is too late.

Wait - what about the news reports where someone was in the ICU on their deathbed and ivermectin was finally provided after court order and appeals? these people still recovered.

About fucking time.

Biden Drops Vaccine Mandate For Private Employers After Supreme Court Rules Against It

What about the military?

Cover-Up: Cancer Diagnoses in the Military Rose Over THREE-FOLD Since Jabs Were Introduced

https://noqreport.com/2022/01/...abs-were-introduced/

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Originally posted by chellim1:
What about the military?

No mentions of military or health professionals.

related to above posts

https://www.washingtontimes.co...andate-after-suprem/

OSHA announced Tuesday that it was canceling its emergency policy mandating large businesses require employees to be vaccinated or face masking and testing, after the Supreme Court put the policy on ice earlier this month.

In its notice announcing the retreat, the Occupational Safety and Health Administration said the court’s ruling dealt a death blow to the mandate, which was issued as an emergency temporary standard, or ETS.

“Notwithstanding the withdrawal of the Vaccination and Testing ETS, OSHA continues to strongly encourage the vaccination of workers against the continuing dangers posed by COVID-19 in the workplace,” the agency said.

The business mandate, which applied to companies with at least 100 employees, was the broadest of President Biden’s mandates, covering more than 90 million private-sector workers.

There are three other mandates covering federal workers, federal contractors and medical workers who are funded by federal programs. The federal worker and federal contractor mandates have both been put on hold by lower courts, while the Supreme Court allowed the medical worker mandate to remain in place.

The Supreme Court, in a 6-3 ruling, said that while vaccine mandates on workers are legal, the administration can’t act unilaterally, but must be granted authority from Congress. There is no evidence that Congress wanted OSHA to be able to do it on its own, the majority ruled.

The decision didn’t technically rule the OSHA policy illegal, but rather prevented it from going into effect while lower courts heard more arguments.

OSHA‘s decision Tuesday should bring those cases to a close.

The agency said that while its emergency mandate is no more, it will still try to impose the policy through its regular rulemaking powers.

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OSHA‘s policy would require businesses either to enforce a vaccine mandate or else impose mandatory masking and weekly testing for employees.

Businesses said it would be a massive financial burden, and could chase millions of people from the workforce.

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Originally posted by sdy:
The agency said that while its emergency mandate is no more, it will still try to impose the policy through its regular rulemaking powers.

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OSHA‘s policy would require businesses either to enforce a vaccine mandate or else impose mandatory masking and weekly testing for employees.

What does that even mean??? If that's the case then why didn't they just do that from the beginning?

But that shouldn't matter as it would be the same thing as the "ETS" they tried to mandate.

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Originally posted by Fly-Sig:

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Originally posted by erj_pilot:
Question...so with the COVID variants out in the world, Omicron of course being the latest and still active, if I have yet to get the "original" COVID variant or the Delta, Epsilon, Zeta, Eta, Theta, Iota, Kappa, Lambda, Mu, Nu, or Xi variants, is it possible for me to contract "original" COVID or ANY of the aforementioned variants before Omicron? Am I now just limited to the possibility of contracting Omicron ONLY??

I tested <1 several months ago for anti-bodies and I have not gotten sick since this all came about. And BELIEVE ME...I was around THOUSANDS of people in the airport and on the plane from NOV 2020 thru SEP 2021.

Dr. John Campbell on Youtube is an excellent source. Omicron has essentially crowded out previous strains in the USA and much of the rest of the world. The chance of you getting a prior strain is essentially zero. Omicron provides robust immunity against prior strains. Prior infection by other strains is protective but not absolute against omicron.

Got a credible source/link to back up this claim? I've not heard this anywhere.

My gut would lead me to believe the opposite is true, but regardless, Omicron would seem to be too new for there to be definitive evidence/data either way at this point.

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Originally posted by konata88:
Wait - what about the news reports where someone was in the ICU on their deathbed and ivermectin was finally provided after court order and appeals? these people still recovered.

You are correct - but this is probably a rare instance. I am basing my comments on the experiences of people I know and trust vs. the media/news.

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Biden Labor Department is pulling its worker COVID vaccine mandate

via MailOnline for iPhone & iPad. https://www.dailymail.co.uk/ne...large-employers.html

Biden's Labor Department announced Tuesday it is withdrawing the vaccine-or-test requirement for private employers with at least 100 workers after the Supreme Court blocked the rule this month [effective January 26, 2022].

Humiliation for Biden as he withdraws his COVID vaccine mandate for private employers after Supreme Court killed it off

Joe Biden's Department of Labor announced Tuesday it is withdrawing its extremely controversial vaccine-or-test requirement for private employers

The rule, which would have affected companies with at least 100 workers, was blocked by the Supreme Court earlier this month

Republican, conservative organizations and business groups immediately went after the executive order when it was announced in September

A series of court challenges landed it in the Supreme Court, where it was defeated but the court still allowed a vaccine mandate for healthcare worker

Great. How many millions went and got jabbed because of Biden's mandate who otherwise wouldn't have? And how many thousands of those cautious millions have had severe reactions/death to those mandated vaccinations?

I know we'll never know the numbers and that it was all by design. Just frustrated that there's no recourse for those forced and no consequences for those doing the forcing.

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Great. How many millions went and got jabbed because of Biden's mandate who otherwise wouldn't have?

Those that didn't really want to shouldn't have. How many were saying that this was illegal, Biden knew it, it was merely a scare tactic, and they should wait it out?

That's basically what I told my daughter and son-in-law.
They haven't been jabbed but are still fighting the mandates.

Well, I guess this means ol' Droolin' Joe will have to get in front of the cameras and act pissed off again.

(almost mumbling) "these vaccine mandates protect people."

(shouting, banging on the podium) "Protect people! PROTECT PEOPLE!! PROTECT PEOPLE!!!!!!" (shuddering. drool running down his chin as he stares off into the distance until a handler escorts him off the stage, shuffling)

(As the lights fade and the press disperses, we hear the voice of Cardinal Lamberto, speaking to Michael Corleone in Godfather part III)

"Your sins are terrible. It is just that you suffer."


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