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Our state Supreme Court has suspended jury trials in one of our counties. For non-jury trials, they're limiting who may attend. They've told only essential personnel to report to work at the courthouse.

I didn't expect this particular development so soon.
 
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I'm at my daughter's dance class. No one else came. It's just her and the teacher. The Flu Manchu strikes again!


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Flu Tang Clan ain't nuttin' to F wit, apparently.
 
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Just the beginning of the tidal wave...
 
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Again, the point is not that there is a huge crisis in the United States RIGHT NOW... it is to try to prevent a crisis from occurring a month or two or three from now.


I totally understand your graphic. From a healthcare perspective, I understand this position. However, we are traveling down the road of unintended consequences a the speed of light.

Let's say we are completely successful and come April 1st, the coronavirus is on the wane and Disney re-opens and sporting events start to happen again, and so on and so on.

However, in doing so, we have crashed the US economy. In 2.5 weeks, things will NOT just pick back up where we left off March 1st. Businesses will have closed and filed bankruptcy. People will be out of work, or even if they do have jobs, their income will be severely reduced. Mortgages and car payments will be late and so on.

Which am I more afraid of; the actual virus or its effect on the economy? It's not even close.
 
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CNN Wonders Why Distrust in Media is High – Same CNN: Saying “The Coronavirus Originated in China” is Racist...

Elania Plott is a CNN analyst who notes in her conversations with supporters of President Trump the disdain and distrust in media is is worse than any time she can remember:


Perhaps this short recap video will help explain.

CNN is now claiming that anyone who uses the term “Wuhan Virus” or “Chinese Corona Virus” is being xenophobic and racist.

The Media Research Center looked into it and captured some rather stark hypocrisy:



https://theconservativetreehouse.com/



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
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Got the email at the end of the day today: we're going to online school starting next week. Tomorrow is an inservice for us to prepare, then Monday and Tuesday to prepare before 2 days of online classes. Our spring break actually starts on Friday, so that's convenient to lump that in.

No indication at all of when we'll be back in the classroom. No kids or adults even tested for the thing, although many are sick (but then again, it's still flu and allergy season).


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Originally posted by maladat:

Again, the point is not that there is a huge crisis in the United States RIGHT NOW... it is to try to prevent a crisis from occurring a month or two or three from now.


I totally understand your graphic. From a healthcare perspective, I understand this position. However, we are traveling down the road of unintended consequences a the speed of light.

Let's say we are completely successful and come April 1st, the coronavirus is on the wane and Disney re-opens and sporting events start to happen again, and so on and so on.

However, in doing so, we have crashed the US economy. In 2.5 weeks, things will NOT just pick back up where we left off March 1st. Businesses will have closed and filed bankruptcy. People will be out of work, or even if they do have jobs, their income will be severely reduced. Mortgages and car payments will be late and so on.

Which am I more afraid of; the actual virus or its effect on the economy? It's not even close.


What do you think will happen to the economy if enough people get sick enough quickly enough to overload all the hospitals?
 
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Just the beginning of the tidal wave...





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I like lots of individual people, and various small to medium sized groups.

But "people", they're crazy and prone to hysteria.

This is a shit show already.

Sigh.
 
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Sorry if this was posted earlier but; add Virginia to the states with a declared emergency.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...0rg?ocid=hplocalnews
 
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CNN is now claiming that anyone who uses the term “Wuhan Virus” or “Chinese Corona Virus” is being xenophobic and racist.

Virus outbreaks and infectious diseases, have always been referred the location of origin in its name.

The Chinese Communist Party, always hyper-sensitive and aggressively passionate about how it's portrayed, pressured the World Health Organization, to change the name 'Wuhan Virus' to a less location specific, hence COVID-19.

Now Western leftists get to do all the heavy lifting and have now started to moralize about naming conventions and start pointing fingers about language virtue. Roll Eyes
 
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Originally posted by maladat:

Again, the point is not that there is a huge crisis in the United States RIGHT NOW... it is to try to prevent a crisis from occurring a month or two or three from now.


I totally understand your graphic. From a healthcare perspective, I understand this position. However, we are traveling down the road of unintended consequences a the speed of light.

Let's say we are completely successful and come April 1st, the coronavirus is on the wane and Disney re-opens and sporting events start to happen again, and so on and so on.

However, in doing so, we have crashed the US economy. In 2.5 weeks, things will NOT just pick back up where we left off March 1st. Businesses will have closed and filed bankruptcy. People will be out of work, or even if they do have jobs, their income will be severely reduced. Mortgages and car payments will be late and so on.

Which am I more afraid of; the actual virus or its effect on the economy? It's not even close.


What do you think will happen to the economy if enough people get sick enough quickly enough to overload all the hospitals?


You are 100% correct. It would also crash.

But from what I have read, some people have symptoms so mild they do not even know they have coronavirus. Some people who have passed it along were completely asympomatic, never showing any illness.

If the fatality rate were like Ebola, I would completely understand. I would not leave my house either. But COVID-19 is not even close. I think back to that death rate chart posted earlier in the thread for South Korea.

All of these precautions might be the right thing, I do not know. But I would like a few elected leaders or a few talking heads on TV to admit that while we are taking these precautions, they do not come without a cost.
 
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I'd have expected to see more dead people before this kind of knee-jerk reaction. I fear that the fear will lead to violence and there will be more dead people from panic than there will be from a virus that, for the most part, only effects elderly with underlying health conditions.

There are approximately 90 deaths per day in the US from auto accidents. We still need two to three times the amount of virus deaths to equal one day of automobile deaths. I just don't see the death rate to justify the local panic. Securing our borders is great, but closing schools and shutting down the country is absurd.

60 million Americans were infected with the swine flu in 2009 and 300,000 were hospitalized and there were 12,469 deaths. And it killed children too. While there was concern, America pretty much chugged along as usual.
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/pandem...9-h1n1-pandemic.html

But hey, maybe parents need to be home to be stuck with their kids for a while and see what kind of garbage is being taught to them at school.

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We just had our school district shut down for 6 weeks. Going to be fun for everyone to try and find childcare.



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What part of "...Shall not be infringed" don't you understand???


 
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Local school system (Simsbury, CT) just shut down for two weeks. As has many others, and by next week, most likely the entire state.

Nuts.



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Someone has a roll of toilet paper on Ebay selling at $.99 per square.. Big Grin
 
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As I posted (now, a good number of pages ago), our Health Network's head of infectious diseases says that asymptomatic people do not spread the virus.



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