This 2:30 minute summary of the Hillary scandal thus far is tremendous. When you see each and every statement she makes rebutted immediately you can appreciate just how thoroughly corrupt and desperate this criminal is.




Link to original video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AV0il-90JnI

The part of this which really signals that she's done is the fact that liberal bastions such as CNN and NBC who worship Hillary's ilk are saying unvarnished things like "Does she think we're all stupid?" and "She's insulting our intelligence". And now, with the liberal press comparing this scandal to Watergate, you can just say goodbye to this nasty bitch of a crook. Hillary Clinton will never admit what she's done, and this will be her undoing. Irresistible force/Immovable object

Marie Antoinette, Hil. Marie Antoinette.

hu·bris
\ˈhyü-brəs\
noun
: see Clinton, Hillary Rodham; also see "failed female politician."

Link for Iphone folks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4dDi8uom7Y

It just occurred to me that if she'd stayed a senator, this would be her third term. She'd be getting pretty senior in the senate.

I wonder if she ever goes into a soundproof room to scream "Why did I give up real power?"

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Originally posted by domcintosh:
Several of my fellows discussed this at length, and came to the conclusion we'd be under confinement pending a UCMJ investigation, court martial, and a ride to Leavenworth.

I had a similar conversation with my son, who is a 1Lt in an Army Reserve unit. He said flat out that if he was guilty of a fraction of what it looks like Clinton has been up to, he'd already be serving a sentence in Leavenworth.

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Originally posted by Sig2340:
It just occurred to me that if she'd stayed a senator, this would be her third term. She'd be getting pretty senior in the senate.

I wonder if she ever goes into a soundproof room to scream "Why did I give up real power?"

And her competition to be the top Democrat in the Senate would've been..(wait for iiiit)..Chuck Schumer. Talk about someone easy to beat!

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Originally posted by Sig2340:
It just occurred to me that if she'd stayed a senator, this would be her third term. She'd be getting pretty senior in the senate.

I wonder if she ever goes into a soundproof room to scream "Why did I give up real power?"

She would still be the junior Senator from New York, bereft of patronage, not in line for leadership unless Schumer backed her. Hardy-har-har!

I find it interesting that very little that’s official business a Secretary of State communicates is considered “unclassified” by State.
The daily calendar of the SoS is restricted; based upon need to know.

All official communications from the representatives of foreign countries are classified, some TS.

According to the Daily Mail, several emails have been found in her email dump that are communications from the UK-PM sent through the Foreign Office, the contents have been redacted.

A reasonable regard for justice seems to me to require that many from State should join her in the slammer.

One of the problems at present is that the higher levels of State are trying to protect her; State is one of the most liberal, most arrogant parts of big.gov.
Even though T. Jefferson was the first Secretary he had no use for the thing that he started.

State now has 200,000 employees, think how much better off we would be if State had 20,000 and we had 180,000 more Marines.

The latest Clinton strategy sounds dumb, but maybe they know they have to bluff it through. At this point Hillary is on record a bunch of times where she said there were no classified emails.

http://www.nydailynews.com/new...ge-article-1.2334616

As Hillary Clinton's email headaches hit migraine levels, her campaign is scrambling for a new strategy to contain the scandal's damage and calm worried Democrats.

Clinton’s campaign is trying a more press-friendly strategy and has gotten more active in coaching allies on how to push back.

“This is a very complicated topic and there's a lot of coverage of very confusing details. We decided we needed to do more public education about it,” Clinton Communications Director Jennifer Palmieri said during a Friday evening conference call with reporters.

Palmieri said that the two key concepts the campaign wanted to get across to voters were that Clinton’s use of her personal email was “permitted” by the State Department when she did it, and that “she never sent or received anything that was classified at the time.”

Clinton’s campaign has also sought to push back on the unflattering details that continue to emerge on a near-daily basis. The call Friday was aimed at firing back at a federal judge who said the use of the server was “a violation of government policy,” and highlighting that Benghazi Committee Chairman Trey Gowdy (R-.S.C.) had the same emails now being called classified on an unsecured server.

“By the same logic that is being applied to the Hillary Clinton email, some could say that the House Benghazi Committee should have its email system looked at,” Clinton spokesman Brian Fallon said.

that sounds like a very dangerous maneuver by Clinton team

The best thing Clinton has going for her right now, say allies, is how far away the election is.

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The latest Clinton strategy sounds dumb, but maybe they know they have to bluff it through.

They don't have a defense, so they're gambling on it being early enough in the election process that they can stifle this. How? Make enough noise to generate confusion as to who's guilty of what (if anything) in the mind of the average voter, and keep doing it as long as Hill's getting pounded. The confusion will create uncertainty among the Dems as to whether Hill is well and truly cooked so that she no longer looks likes she's condemned to lose, and the late entrants no longer seem viable "because they didn't get started soon enough". If she wins the nomination and this crops up again, all she (thinks she) has to do is say "Oh, c'mon, this tired old political crap again? We've discussed this over and over for over a year now, and there's nothing there." Some will buy that line, others will simply assume "all politicians do it", others still won't care because "she's Hill!", and, she hopes, she'll get enough votes to make it into the White House. Classic Clinton playbook stuff.

They don’t have a defense but they do have tactics and a strategy.

Their tactics are on display daily; deny, change the subject, and argue from authority (Sen. Windbag says; "Hillary did not send classified material…"). This approach assumes that if the “sending classified material” part of the problem dies, the entire mess will be resolved.

Their strategy is based upon their opinion of the US voter, to wit; the US voter is so stupid that he/she/they/it will believe anything that Hillary and Sen. Windbag tell them.

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Originally posted by Il Cattivo:

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The latest Clinton strategy sounds dumb, but maybe they know they have to bluff it through.

They don't have a defense, so they're gambling on it being early enough in the election process that they can stifle this. How? Make enough noise to generate confusion as to who's guilty of what (if anything) in the mind of the average voter, and keep doing it as long as Hill's getting pounded. The confusion will create uncertainty among the Dems as to whether Hill is well and truly cooked so that she no longer looks likes she's condemned to lose, and the late entrants no longer seem viable "because they didn't get started soon enough". If she wins the nomination and this crops up again, all she (thinks she) has to do is say "Oh, c'mon, this tired old political crap again? We've discussed this over and over for over a year now, and there's nothing there." Some will buy that line, others will simply assume "all politicians do it", others still won't care because "she's Hill!", and, she hopes, she'll get enough votes to make it into the White House. Classic Clinton playbook stuff.

All of that is well and good, 'except' for the FBI's ongoing investigation. If the FBI were not involved, 'maybe'' the Clinton camp could run out the clock and try and sweep this away. However, 'if' the FBI finds anything (and my bet is they will), and an indictment is filed, nothing on this planet can save her career and/or campaign.

If I were a betting man, I'd give better than even odds she's history. Only her monumental arrogance and sense of entitlement prevents her from seeing that eventuality.

I imagine Hillary is much like Leonna Helmsley in that she thinks she did nothing wrong.

Only the little people go to jail over things like this.

ok, so her server had classified material - but does that also mean that the ISP that handled the account obtained classified materials for which they weren't cleared?

emails can't go missing. Everything is saved.

They just don't want to release it.

Please give up hope of seeing Hillary Rodham Clinton perp walked, in cuffs, on her way to a body cavity search and inmate attire.

I know, it is an attractive fantasy, but it ain't gonna happen.

Be happy that the hubric harpy will never again be elected to any office.

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Originally posted by Sig2340:
Please give up hope of seeing Hillary Rodham Clinton perp walked, in cuffs, on her way to a body cavity search and inmate attire.

I know, it is an attractive fantasy, but it ain't gonna happen.

Be happy that the hubric harpy will never again be elected to any office.

Buzzkill...

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Originally posted by Sig2340:
...on her way to a body cavity search and inmate attire.

Dear God, please. I just got back from supper and that image almost made me hurl.

As much as I think she is worthy of a long jail sentence, I'll accept this issue totally cancelling her political career/aspirations forever. But I will hold out a little glimmer of hope of seeing her in an orange jumpsuit headed to the Federal Pen.

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All of that is well and good, 'except' for the FBI's ongoing investigation. If the FBI were not involved, 'maybe'' the Clinton camp could run out the clock and try and sweep this away. However, 'if' the FBI finds anything (and my bet is they will), and an indictment is filed, nothing on this planet can save her career and/or campaign.

Oh, I agree. But that just means that those in her camp are counting on two things. First, the FBI won't say squat unless there are indictments and indictments take a long time to develop in that particular environment even where, as here, it seems plain that she did something illegal and may well have done so to cover up even more illegal activity (influence peddling, in this case). Second, if she gets elected or is still a viable candidate when the indictment or indictments come down, then her supporters will happily assume she's untouchable. I guess I'm expecting them to see it as more a race against the clock than an attempt to run out the clock.

IOW, Clinton may get indicted in the end, it's going to be a while before this mess breaks Clinton's supporters hearts. For the purposes of the election, what we need to see is their hearts well, truly and conclusively broken - at least for this election cycle.

Can those of you with experience dealing with classified information and/or with the IT aspect of it please distill what rules she has violated and the current evidence for the violations?

I've read pretty much all 33 pages of this thread over the weeks and I'm getting lost in the weeds and want to make sure I have a firm handle on what the rules are, what she (or those around her did, doesn't matter, really) did and is accused of doing.

I'd rather hear from people who actually know WTF they're talking about so I can dissect the spiel team-Hil will give us.