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"She was at worst a passive recipient of unwitting information that subsequently became deemed as classified," said Brian Fallon, Clinton campaign press secretary, in a conference call Wednesday with reporters


more 'what the definition of 'is' is'....................

Time for fumigation.
 
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Hillary Clinton campaign chairman John Podesta said Wednesday that Clinton regrets using a private email server during her tenure as Secretary of State.

Podesta also promised to respond to the negative publicity surrounding the Clinton campaign by activating more of the Clinton camp’s surrogates.

“We’re going to get more voices out there,” Podesta said.

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sounds serious. Activate The Surrogates !!!



adding this:

http://www.cnn.com/2015/08/20/...ersy-2016/index.html

The Clinton camp dispatched a host of top aides and surrogates -- even pulling some from vacation -- to try to dismiss the drama as the product of a hyper-partisan political environment and an overwrought media.

And it took the unusual step of convening a conference call with reporters so aides could try to gain more control over the story.

"We do think people have concerns and questions," Clinton communications director director Jen Palmieri told reporters. "We think it's really confusing, and want to try to answer them."

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Why Obama is torpedoing Hillary Clinton

http://www.washingtontimes.com.../?page=all#pagebreak


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"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
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This was cheerful news.
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Why Obama is torpedoing Hillary Clinton

http://www.washingtontimes.com.../?page=all#pagebreak


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Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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I understand that Bill Clinton tried to cheer up Hillary this morning by reminding her Nelson Mandela got elected President after he was released from prison.




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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Monica Crowley thinks HUSSEIN is "torpedoing" Hillary's campaign.

http://www.washingtontimes.com.../?page=all#pagebreak

There is only one person who controls Hillary Clinton’s fate, and it isn’t Hillary Clinton.

Mrs. Clinton is careening toward possible criminal charges involving her alleged mishandling of classified material on her personal email server while she was secretary of State. And President Obama is driving the bus.

She and her team have, of course, reverted to form, blaming everyone but themselves: a “right-wing conspiracy,” The New York Times, overzealous investigators. What they are missing, however, is the one figure who wants her taken out politically, and who has the power to do it.

She and Mr. Obama have a long history as frenemies. Recall Mr. Obama’s rejoinder at a 2008 debate, when Mrs. Clinton touted her likability: “You’re likable enough.” Or recall President Bill Clinton’s famous put-down of Mr. Obama: “A few years ago, this guy would have been getting us coffee.”

Beyond the bad blood, however, Mr. Obama has a more important reason for doing her in. As I have written previously, he needs a successor he can control. Over the years, including recently, he has waxed rhapsodic over a possible third term to continue his “fundamental transformation of the nation.” Mrs. Clinton will not provide it; therefore, she must be sidelined.

If Mr. Obama does not want an investigation to go forward, it does not go forward. Witness the scandals involving the Internal Revenue Service, Benghazi, Veterans Administration and Operation Fast and Furious gunrunning. In each case, Mr. Obama claimed he learned about the scandal “from the news.” (That’s interesting coming from a guy who claims he only rarely watches or reads said “news.”)

He then expressed his “outrage” and vowed to “get to the bottom” of each scandal. (Of course, it’s tough to “get to the bottom” of something when you are the bottom of it.)

In those cases, he protesteth too much. His faux outrage was a “tell” that he had no intention of investigating. In Mrs. Clinton’s case, he’s been quiet. Too quiet. That’s a “tell” that he wants this investigation pursued, likely to the point of charging her.

He has others talking, however. Each week, there are damaging new leaks about her personal email and server: that despite her denials, she did, in fact, have top-secret and other highly classified materials on the server, that the FBI is conducting a criminal probe and the bureau is “optimistic” it can retrieve the wiped data, that she may have had a second server, that her top aides — Huma Abedin, Cheryl Mills and Jake Sullivan — are now also in investigators’ sights.

Mr. Obama is a clever dark knight: he’s not just going after the queen. He’s going after her court, too.

These leaks are not happening by accident.

Gen. David Petraeus, who was prosecuted for mishandling classified material in much more innocuous ways, claimed to a source of mine that Mrs. Clinton faces a “very tough legal environment.” Particularly, if Mr. Obama used the Petraeus prosecution to set the precedent to prosecute Mrs. Clinton: “I’m so sorry about this, but my hands are tied. The law is the law.” (It would be the first time in his presidency that the “law is the law,” but that’s another matter.)

It may be that Mr. Obama set her up from the start, giving her the green light to use a private server. The White House refuses to say whether she got prior approval, suggesting that they probably granted it. After all, a number of top administration folks had private accounts: Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, EPA Administrator Lisa Jackson, among others. But they didn’t use private email exclusively for government business the way Mrs. Clinton did, nor did they expose classified material. They also weren’t likely presidential candidates. It could be that Mr. Obama gave her the OK knowing that he could use it against her at the opportune moment. Which would be now.

This brings us to the certain presidential candidacy of Vice President Joe Biden, the one person who can effectively give Mr. Obama that third term. Indications are that he is seriously contemplating it, making initial plans, reaching out to potential donors, and benefiting from the Obamaites whipping up Biden buzz. The White House is even floating the idea of one-term for Mr. Biden, to reassure voters that they wouldn’t be making a long-term commitment (even though, as an extension of Obama’s presidency, it would be.)

Like the Clinton investigation, this is not by accident.

Once Mr. Biden joins the race, he will enjoy the full backing of Mr. Obama. With Mrs. Clinton gone, however, Mr. Obama and Mr. Biden will have to make it up to Democratic women and the radical left, which is currently flirting with socialist Sen. Bernie Sanders.

There is only one person who kills both birds with one stone: Sen. Elizabeth Warren.

The Democratic ticket will be Joe Biden-Elizabeth Warren. That’s what Mr. Obama wants. And what Mr. Obama wants, Mr. Obama gets.

This is “Game of Thrones.” And Mr. Obama is winning.



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I understand that Bill Clinton tried to cheer up Hillary this morning by reminding her Nelson Mandela got elected President after he was released from prison.


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Ready for Biden?




"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
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I predict that within one month, or at the very beginning of October at the latest, Hillary is going to have "health issues" and have to drop out of the race to "spend more time with her family".

What say you, Sig Forum?


 
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I predict that within one month, or at the very beginning of October at the latest, Hillary is going to have "health issues" and have to drop out of the race to "spend more time with her family".

What say you, Sig Forum?

One way or another, she will not be the nominee.



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Won't happen
 
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Monica Crowley is probably right.
But sometimes investigations take on a life of their own and become difficult to control.
Obama would prefer to have Biden, but he's going to play it close to the vest. He will want to be on board with the eventual nominee, whoever it may be.



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
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Unfortunately, I think she's not going to quit until she either get's issued that orange jumpsuit or a different communist is nominated to be the candidate. I've made this comparison back when Hillary was running against Obama. The Clintons are like the old Soviet Union styled communists. Wearing (pant)suits, more sophisticated and slightly sensitive to public image. Obama and his communists extremists are more radical, more like Castro communists, crude, don't care about their public image, running firing squads executing their political opponents, while sitting back in a chair smoking their Cuban cigars (imagine Che Guevara wearing an OD set of fatigues and a beret).
 
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Yesterday's CNN national poll has Hillary losing 9 points, while Sanders gained 10 points, all of this in the last month. Trump, leading the Republican pack, is now within 6 points of Clinton. In short, this scandal is rocking her campaign, and at this point, she really can't stop the downward spiral.



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Won't happen


Unfortunately, I think she's not going to quit until she either get's issued that orange jumpsuit or a different communist is nominated to be the candidate. I've made this comparison back when Hillary was running against Obama. The Clintons are like the old Soviet Union styled communists. Wearing (pant)suits, more sophisticated and slightly sensitive to public image. Obama and his communists extremists are more radical, more like Castro communists, crude, don't care about their public image, running firing squads executing their political opponents, while sitting back in a chair smoking their Cuban cigars (imagine Che Guevara wearing an OD set of fatigues and a beret).


One of the numerous things that turn me off about this woman is how she walks out to the podium smiling and clapping, like Chairman Mao and those guys. Pitiful!




Luckily, I have enough willpower to control the driving ambition that rages within me.

When you had the votes, we did things your way. Now, we have the votes and you will be doing things our way. This lesson in political reality from Lyndon B. Johnson

"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." - Justice Janice Rogers Brown
 
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CBS News identified two e-mails on her server Wednesday which the intelligence community says contained classified information.

The messages were uncovered during an investigation of the 2012 attack in Benghazi, Libya, that killed U.S. Ambassador Chris Stevens and three others.

The first email, from April 2011, was forwarded to Clinton by aide Huma Abedin. It cited intelligence reports from the U.S. Africa Command on Libyan troop strength and movements.

The second, forwarded by aide Jacob Sullivan in November 2012, outlined reports of possible arrests in connection with the Benghazi attack.

The emails are among the some 30,000 Clinton turned over to the State Department from her private server.

The State Department filed court papers Wednesday afternoon saying it "does not believe that any personal computing device was issued by the Department" to Clinton.

"Anytime you're bringing your own equipment and using it for work purposes, it's not as secure as something that's actually issued by the company," CNET senior editor Dan Ackerman explained. "Because they take those laptops, for example, and they pre-configure them, they put their own software on them, tracking software, update software, and they distribute them."

That raises the question, how secure were her personal devices, like her BlackBerry, since they weren't issued by the State Department?
 
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Dick Morris is all over this, and it just instantly kills it for me.



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I don't believe that you can draw a parallel with Nixon and Hillary. One was political intrigue and cover up at the highest level (President), the other a violation of basic IT rules/regulations and misuse/unauthorized storage of classified or top secret material by a sitting Secretary of State.

Obama refusing to take the correct and prudent action IS however a direct parallel to Watergate IMHO. A President blocking the course of law and investigations simply to protect the politcal asirations of someone within his party is a violation of public trust.




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Am not impressed w the Obama conspiracy story. Sounds like somebody creating a news story rather than reporting it.

Stop and think. Hillary almost got away with the personal server.

Two things seemed to come together to bring the server into public knowledge.

A Romanian hacker (Guccifer) got into the AOL account of Sidney Blumenthal ( informal advisor to Hillary). The hacker found email to Hillary on foreign policy and intelligence matters.

Guccifer disclosed the private email address of Hillary Clinton.


The congressional committee investigating Benghazi kept asking the State Dept for Clinton's related emails. Eventually it came out that Hillary had used a personal email account for her State Dept business.

Except for the above, we may never have known about the personal server.
 
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