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Chilling footage has emerged showing the elaborate tunnel systems that Hamas terrorists have been using to move weapons, hostages and stage attacks on Israel.

Heaven forbid those assholes build something positive for their wives and children.

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Originally posted by Veeper:

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Chilling footage has emerged showing the elaborate tunnel systems that Hamas terrorists have been using to move weapons, hostages and stage attacks on Israel.

Heaven forbid those assholes build something positive for their wives and children.

My guess is the wives and children provide a good amount of the labor doing the digging. We all know what high regard that culture places on women and children.

US Warplanes Conduct Major Strikes On 'Iranian Proxies' In Syria

https://www.zerohedge.com/geop...s-500-hamas-fighters

In the overnight and early morning hours in Syria (local time), US forces carried out airstrikes on what it said are Iran-linked militants and installations in eastern Syria. Multiple targets have been hit.

According to a statement by Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin, "Today, at President Biden’s direction, U.S. military forces conducted self-defense strikes on two facilities in eastern Syria used by Iran’s Islamic Revolutionary Guard Corps (IRGC) and affiliated groups." The attacks were reportedly done by US warplanes, likely operating out of either the Gulf or Mediterranean areas where new US naval assets have recently been positioned, keeping a watch on fast moving events in Gaza. Fox issued the following breaking detail:

F-16s and F-15s were used to strike targets in Syria earlier tonight in retaliation for the attacks on US troops in the region.



More at link

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…The attacks were reportedly done by US warplanes, likely operating out of either the Gulf or Mediterranean areas where new US naval assets have recently been positioned, keeping a watch on fast moving events in Gaza. Fox issued the following breaking detail:

F-16s and F-15s were used to strike targets in Syria earlier tonight in retaliation for the attacks on US troops in the region.

Huh? 15, 16, 18, just a bunch of random numbers.

Well, if the report is correct in stating F-15's and F-16's then it wasn't Navy. But we all know the press, in large part, doesn't know these aircraft from their ass.

Would love to see a WWII style bombing with 20 or 30 B-52's and fighter escorts. Just lay that carpet down!

This isn't a video game or a movie, and you guys really should stop and think about the consequences of what you're wishing for.

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Originally posted by .38supersig:
Thinking they could get a few old diesel locomotives and seal the exhaust to one of the tunnels.

Seems that would run 'em all out before they could try much else.

Given the history of the Holocaust, that would be a bit ironic.

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Originally posted by sigcrazy7:
Given the history of the Holocaust, that would be a bit ironic.

A bit? I don't know how the irony of what they were posting didn't strike a few different members here dead. Hydrogen is dirt cheap and so was rat poison. Holy shit, guys.

I have more I'd like to say, but I won't. We need to be extremely careful about dehumanizing people, because I can't think of a single example among the vile horrors of WWII that wasn't preceded by conditioning the populace to believe that the various enemy factions both at home and abroad were subhumans of some sort.

I think Israel is right to wage war on their enemies, but they need to be real careful about how they do it.

“Beware that, when fighting monsters, you yourself do not become a monster... for when you gaze long into the abyss. The abyss gazes also into you.”

― Friedrich W. Nietzsche

The overnight US airstrike is disproportionate to the nearly 20 attacks from Iran on US forces.

We've had personnel hurt directly by Iran and instead, we go to Syria and bomb a munitions depot and a SAM sight, IIRC.

I think the president or his press secretary said our red line was hurt US personnel. Well, we gave them a token response.

An administration of appeasement and the sad part is that Iran knows and is taking advantage of it.

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Originally posted by sigcrazy7:
Given the history of the Holocaust, that would be a bit ironic.

A bit? I don't know how the irony of what they were posting didn't strike a few different members here dead. Hydrogen is dirt cheap and so was rat poison. Holy shit, guys.

I have more I'd like to say, but I won't. We need to be extremely careful about dehumanizing people, because I can't think of a single example among the vile horrors of WWII that wasn't preceded by conditioning the populace to believe that the various enemy factions both at home and abroad were subhumans of some sort.

I think Israel is right to wage war on their enemies, but they need to be real careful about how they do it.

Why does Isreal need to be real careful about it? I don't recall the US having to be real careful about it in Iraq or Afghanistan. I'm sure we killed many, many thousands of innocent people during those wars.

While I don't want to see the wholesale slaughter of innocent people it happens in war. We fire bombed Japan and Germany, have you seen pictures of any warzone?

Maybe if they ask Hamas really nicely not do any more terrorism they'll say yes?

As much as the word existential threat is causally tossed around, Hamas does pose an existential threat to Isreal.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
This isn't a video game or a movie, and you guys really should stop and think about the consequences of what you're wishing for.

Absolutely correct. Further, who the fuck thinks they can just send fighters and bombers around to do shit. What the hell. We literally have a process for going to war that these assholes have been skirting for decades.

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Originally posted by P220 Smudge:
A bit? I don't know how the irony of what they were posting didn't strike a few different members here dead. Hydrogen is dirt cheap and so was rat poison. Holy shit, guys.

In my defense, I was discussing tactics to attack the tunnels, not gassing the population. But as has been pointed out, hydrogen is probably too light. I think my original suggestion of methane is still feasible. Although I don't think it would necessarily breach a reinforced bulk head.

Regarding rat poison, I didn't see that and I'm not sure how it would be used.

Instead of pumping in a gas, why not just fill the tunnels with sea water?

It's free, it will find the lowest point and the water is highly corrosive. Should render most weapons useless or very rusty.

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Originally posted by Flashlightboy:
Instead of pumping in a gas, why not just fill the tunnels with sea water?

It's free, it will find the lowest point and the water is highly corrosive. Should render most weapons useless or very rusty.

As discussed on p39 of this thread.

An advantage of flooding with water, is it takes days to fill the tunnel, giving as many in the tunnel that want to surrender plenty of time and warning to do so. Explosive/poisonous gases afford little to no possibility to give up. True, Hamas is very unlikely to do so, but when the water reaches their lower lip, they might start thinking about it. After that, they have been afforded all opportunity, and the end result is by their conscious choice.


Hostages, unfortunately, will have no choice. But then again, they don't have any choice under any scenario. The only hope for them is ground forces entering the tunnels and rescuing them. I'm not a tunnel rat, but that does not seem too promising, either.

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Originally posted by BOATTRASH1:
Well, if the report is correct in stating F-15's and F-16's then it wasn't Navy. But we all know the press, in large part, doesn't know these aircraft from their ass.

Exactly and they didn’t come from the Med or the Gulf. The other articles I’ve read said it was two Air Force F-16s. Given the targets were in Syria, I’d guess the planes came from Turkey.

Glad to see these poster rippers getting what they deserve:

“ in a minute, I’m gonna litter the ground with you!”


https://x.com/endwokeness/stat...957481203204126?s=46

This is exactly what needs to happen here. Get in their faces and make them regret their decision to do dumb shit. I’m sure it’ll all come to a head eventually, but for now, making these idiots social media famous is what we need, especially if it leads to a job loss!