Khamenei moved to a secure location?? *lol* How did that work out for Hezbollah?

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Originally posted by PGT:

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Originally posted by Lefty Sig:
Let's see here, Isreal crippled Hezbollah in LEBANON. No attacks on Iran. But IRAN is retaliating.

If they had any inkling of pretending they are not funding Hezbollah and Hamas, they are giving up on that entire line of argument.

Did / does anybody in the world think they're not?

No, but it's a hell of lot easier to justify retaliating against a direct attack than a proxy.

Had Iran not done anything, Israel would face a lot of resistance if they attacked Iran. Perhaps delayed aid from the U.S.

Now they are completely justified in bombing Iran directly. And this time, they should go for those in charge.

I guess the only casualty (dead) was a palestinian.
Not sure if this is real but I'm posting anyways:

https://x.com/MOSSADil/status/1841209347537347029




https://x.com/TheMossadIL/status/1841204215903121898

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Originally posted by lkdr1989:
...a pali.

Don't use such language in this forum.

Got it. Fixed.

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Originally posted by parabellum:

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Originally posted by lkdr1989:
...a pali.

Don't use such language in this forum.

I wonder if they can salvage that rocket body and try to use it again...that pedestrian cushioned the blow otherwise it may have done some real damage to the rocket...

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Originally posted by Beancooker:

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Originally posted by architect:
Who's anticipating the Grand Opening of the Khomeini Memorial Glass Works in downtown Tehran?

That’s would be really bad. Israel launching a nuclear attack would cause a lot of issues globally.

I would guess, and hope, that they bomb the ever living shit out of Tehran , but I pray that this doesn’t turn nuclear. That changes so many things in such a way that cannot be undone.

There are many agreements to not use nuclear powers, and in using them, would cause many countries that support, or don’t object against Israel, to denounce them and stop all support, if not turn against them.

Let’s just hope that the IDF has some more pager style tricks they have planted, and wipe out the leading politicians and religious leaders in Tehran.

I echo your sentiments.

As reasoned above, any meaningful support would dry up. Now if, Iran managed a nuclear detonation in Israel, and it was provable?

I have always heard any not terribly large nuke would pound Tehran multiple times due to it's proximity to the mountain range.

They don't need nukes in this anyway.

Not sure if this is another strike or a different angle of the one from earlier. Says an airport got hit.

https://www.reddit.com/r/ThatsInsane/s/Yd7ldeKl7G

My opinion:

Israel would only resort to nuclear in the event that Israel was itself in imminent danger of its own destruction.

If Iran was absolutely known to have a functional nuclear weapon, that would not be only a threat to Israel, but to United States forces, our allies and even Continental USA territory as well.

As Masaad Ayóob talks about in his courses, deadly force is justifiable “In the gravest extreme.” That is the only reason the Israeli command would use nuclear weapons.

Iran is absolutely RIDDLED with Mossad spies. If Iran was even fractionally close to manufacturing a nuke, either the world would know about it in short time or the facility where it was being finalized would have already been reduced to smoking rubble. Personally, I’m more concerned that Iran will acquire nuclear weapons from an outside player like Russia, Pakistan, or even China to name a few.

It would be a huge error for Israel to touch off a nuke anywhere but inside its own established and globally recognized borders in an effort to destroy an invading horde (which I am confident they could eradicate by conventional means anyway). I do not believe they ever will if their success in dominating terrorist forces are any indicator.

Israel can achieve the same goal with conventional munitions and some very focused strike teams. No need to go to the big red balloon. China and Russia - that’s another story.

My guess is that they’re already moving assets around to do a coordinated leadership hit - take as many out all on the same day. All the way to the top.

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:

My guess is that they’re already moving assets around to do a coordinated leadership hit - take as many out all on the same day. All the way to the top.

The sketchy part of that factor, is who replaces the Ayatollah and the President?

I’m not saying I’m against the dispatching of both, but will we end up with people that are even more radicalized? We thought taking out Saddam Hussein was a good idea. The world is a better place without him, however it destabilized that region. Saddam was a colossal piece of shit, but he kept the area stable by ruling with an iron fist.

I’m sure people smarter than I am have thought this through, but when Ayatollah Khamenei and President Pezeshkian are gone, who are their successors? I’m guessing Ali’s son Mojtaba would succeed him, and he appears to be a younger version of his father, with less experience and knowledge. Pezeshkian is at least not as crazy or radical as some of the past leaders.

Does anybody have any credible links to details about casualties/damage sustained by Israel from the missile attack last night? From the videos I saw with all the inbounds I have a hard time believing that the only victim was one guy who got hit by a falling tube.

The Israelis have already said they’re not publicizing all the details because it could provide Iran with information that might help them improve their next attack. Can’t blame them for being cautious.

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Originally posted by Beancooker:

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Originally posted by nhtagmember:

My guess is that they’re already moving assets around to do a coordinated leadership hit - take as many out all on the same day. All the way to the top.

The sketchy part of that factor, is who replaces the Ayatollah and the President?

I’m not saying I’m against the dispatching of both, but will we end up with people that are even more radicalized? We thought taking out Saddam Hussein was a good idea. The world is a better place without him, however it destabilized that region. Saddam was a colossal piece of shit, but he kept the area stable by ruling with an iron fist.

I’m sure people smarter than I am have thought this through, but when Ayatollah Khamenei and President Pezeshkian are gone, who are their successors? I’m guessing Ali’s son Mojtaba would succeed him, and he appears to be a younger version of his father, with less experience and knowledge. Pezeshkian is at least not as crazy or radical as some of the past leaders.

Iran is a unique case, they're not Arab so there's already built-in friction between them and nearly everyone else in the region. Being a religious-theocracy, built-around a religion that practically fetishizes social-conformity, a large chuck of the populace is subservient to the whims of whomever their closest religious leader is. Iran's religious ruling class has about 10,000 imams/clerics that are in alignment with the national figures, just as crazed and warped in their thinking about how the world should be. Then there's several million followers who are zealots, the die-hards, the willing enforcers, eager to exact their leaders orders in the name of their religion, their country and their culture...sounds like a certain mid-century Germanic-movement .

This is probably a situation where Israel knocks-out several top-leaders, expose the secret police to weaken the internal pillars so the general populace can topple the regime, rather than overt outside intervention.

Biden Says He Won't Back Israeli Strikes On Iran's Nuclear Facilities

https://www.zerohedge.com/geop...oil-gas-rigs-nuclear




More at link:

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Originally posted by 92fstech:
Does anybody have any credible links to details about casualties/damage sustained by Israel from the missile attack last night? From the videos I saw with all the inbounds I have a hard time believing that the only victim was one guy who got hit by a falling tube.

From what I have seen, it was 5 Iranians and one Gazan.

I'm still a mite confused as to why a Moslem theocracy would send a wave of 'maybe we'll hit/maybe we won't' ballistic missiles at one of the holiest sites of islam - namely, the Dome of the Rock.

Who thought THAT one out?

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Originally posted by tsmccull:
The Israelis have already said they’re not publicizing all the details because it could provide Iran with information that might help them improve their next attack. Can’t blame them for being cautious.

Our crooked ass, anti-American media would probably sell us out before the fires were put out with more details than a PhD thesis.