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Originally posted by parabellum:

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Originally posted by corsair:
Had a good discussion with a friend about this.... his position was, conservatives can't get into the trap of getting offended by signs and slogans, that's the liberal game and we need to be in support of open and free speech and enough with the social policing of thought and discussions. This is a position that I've heard other right-leaning talking heads take.

Yeah, sounds great. By any chance, did the subject of the GLARING DOUBLE STANDARD come up?

In our efforts to demonstrate how fair-minded we are, might I suggest that we make every effort to actually be fair-minded?

Your friend needs to avoid allowing his lofty principles to blind him to what is actually occurring. Claiming "Free Speech" when saying "Kill the Jews" but disallowing such declarations for all other groups, is not an example of the principles of free speech.

That was the crux of my position, it's one thing to believe in free speech, to be tolerant of opposing positions and offensive language, however this situation goes well beyond 'harsh words' and into the realm of bullying and tormenting. The last ten years of social and news media generated outrage should've been a clear indicator that not everyone gets equal treatment in the court of public opinion.

It was clear he hadn't delved too deeply into this subject or, was fully aware of the activities that have surrounded these issues. He was vaguely aware that Jewish students were being harangued and agitated by Palestinian-supporters on school campuses; wasn't aware of the instances where professors singled-out Jewish students, and hadn't really believed that school staff and professors were 'in' on this. His frame of reference of university professors was one of the disheveled, tweed-wearing academic and not of the youthful but bookish activist-types who have gained positions of tenure and influence, encouraging their students to do their dirty-work.

He tries to be a libertarian however this got him lost to the realities. I believe there's quite a few American's that fall into this mindset, they attempt to maintain a principled position but, when confronted with a situation which should offend them, they find reason to minimize it or, attempt to maintain a loose position. I'd like to think my chat with him today spur'd him into taking a more critical look at the topic.

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in her video, Magill said that the U.S. constitution says speech alone is "not punishable".

The hypocrisy is monumental. Again, I ask: If, instead of students carrying around signs (or shouting) that said "Gas the Jews", the signs read "Kill the homosexuals" or "Lynch the blacks", what would have been the reaction of university administration?

Their arrogance is such that they think we're all blind and stupid.

Great point. That really brings home the reality of the hypocrisy, callousness, and murderous hate in no uncertain terms. Excellent.

A few years ago when conservative speakers were disinvited from college campuses, among the reasons were that their words were violence. Just the uttering of them was considered violence.

Today the presidents of these universities are taking a 180 degree position that words are not violence when they're uttered by groups they like.

We've come a long way in a few short years.

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An excellent point, Flashlightboy.

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Originally posted by Flashlightboy:
A few years ago when conservative speakers were disinvited from college campuses, among the reasons were that their words were violence. Just the uttering of them was considered violence.

Today the presidents of these universities are taking a 180 degree position that words are not violence when they're uttered by groups they like.

We've come a long way in a few short years.

Well, like a lot things under Commie Governance, there is Party approved violence versus unapproved violence.

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Had a good discussion with a friend about this....

Does your friend have any clue as to what actually happened here on these campuses like Penn? For years now, conservative speakers and even students have been run off campus and blocked, harassed, cancelled because “their words are violence”.

But then they let students and other groups march around campus with signs that literally say “Gas the Jews” “Eliminate Israel” and it’s perfectly fine? Those words aren’t violence you see when in fact they couldn’t be a more perfect definition of violence!

It’s the sheer hypocrisy of these presidents who then got in front of Congress and testified that signs carried by people on their campuses stating “Gas the Jews” and Jewish students being cornered and threatened were acceptable because “context” or some other lame ass bullshit.

THAT’S why this Penn president is gone and I think the other two will be following.

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Originally posted by Flashlightboy:
A few years ago when conservative speakers were disinvited from college campuses, among the reasons were that their words were violence. Just the uttering of them was considered violence.

Today the presidents of these universities are taking a 180 degree position that words are not violence when they're uttered by groups they like.

We've come a long way in a few short years.

Lies and falsehoods are inconsistent and conditional. Truth is consistent, universal and reliable. Inconsistent principles are either false or based on the weather.

Powerful

https://twitter.com/RetsefL/st.../1733657458327896181

To MIT President Kornbluth & Corporation.

Your brilliant PhD student, Liyam Chitayat is asking:

"When you look at the mirror, what do you see? Are you proud of your 'excellent' moral compass?"

"When is the right 'context' to?

Respond to antisemitic reports telling students they can try talking to the police, go to therapy or go back to where they came from..

To tell Jewish students not to come to the entrance of campus, but to go through the back door to their classes, just because they are Jewish..

Allow an MIT Chaplin advisor to repeatedly call Israelis “racist white European colonizers”, right before asking students to raise their hands in front of everybody if they eat Kosher..."

As a faculty of MIT I cannot provide her any good answer, but you must!

Antisemitism is intolerable. These "people" need to face harsh consequences.

It goes beyond antisemitism; we are talking about human beings abdicating their humanity.

Here's something which needs to be seen from, of all people, Dr. Phil. I encourage you to watch this. You can call him a grand-stander, and a grand-stander he may be, but listen to the substance of his indictment of these repulsive university officials. He calls out these evil people for all they are. They have abandoned those they are tasked with leading, at the very moment those students need support and strong leadership the most.

https://twitter.com/SpencerGua.../1733693646904459363

The whole concept of words being violent is stupid. What is going on right now on college campuses regarding any form of antisemitism is revolting. Anyone condoning or supporting this should be immediately terminated or expelled.

Did we forget the results of this already, its only been 78 years.

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The whole concept of words being violent is stupid.

Of course, but the point is the contradictory attitudes the left has displayed- taking the position that words are violence and then behaving as if they never professed to believe this nonsense they were spewing before two months ago.

People may cynically claim that the left cannot be nailed down but it's not true- that is, it's not true for anyone who is willing to acknowledge facts in evidence, and the left is on record time and again, that words are violence, and now that they have taken the exact opposite stance, they weaken their position with this indefensible behavior.

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Fuckin' cockroaches

https://twitter.com/MOSSADil/s.../1733540730184880539

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Is that a SAW the IDF Soldier is holding on them ? Is that really enough, just one SAW ? I suppose there's more security we're not seeing. But I suppose real terrorists may be more than meets the eye, esp. in their underwear, but in this case maybe not. Rat fat bastards.

I'd be interested in knowing what percentage of these universities' charitable donations come from Arab countries. Perhaps it is significant - that would explain their tolerance of anti-Semitic rhetoric, wouldn't it?

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Here's something which needs to be seen from, of all people, Dr. Phil

Dr Phil has a HUGE following. We need more prominent figures with the same moral compass to speak up and hound all of these anti-human savage supporting garbage into the limelight to either profess their hatred for the Jewish people or their support. Do not allow them the common ground of pretending the hatred falls under some twisted form of free speech which is nothing more than lying about their true feelings… or the feelings they have been fed by the more dangerous group- that being the globalist cabal of hate.

It’s time to hunt THESE people down, corner them, and destroy THEIR lives for supporting genocide. It’s past time to eradicate the new world order and all of the politicians, educators, and corporations that stand under their banners. It is time for a global response that spells their end, however that end comes. In other words, we need another Nuremberg to identify them, expose them, and END them- just as was done with the Nazis they emulate with their actions. Bring them into the light of day where the cockroaches find fear.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Here's something which needs to be seen from, of all people, Dr. Phil. I encourage you to watch this.

https://twitter.com/SpencerGua.../1733693646904459363

Wow. That is exceedingly powerful. He certainly minces no words.

By the end of that I was ready to go out and buy a menorah for a show of solidarity.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
It goes beyond antisemitism; we are talking about human beings abdicating their humanity.

Here's something which needs to be seen from, of all people, Dr. Phil. I encourage you to watch this. You can call him a grand-stander, and a grand-stander he may be, but listen to the substance of his indictment of these repulsive university officials. He calls out these evil people for all they are. They have abandoned those they are tasked with leading, at the very moment those students need support and strong leadership the most.

Well said!

One thing that Dr Phil said about the hearing was that he has prepared people for Congressional testimony, and it's all polished prepared answers so none of the three were caught off guard. This rings true as I personally know oil & gas executives who have testified before Congress and they were extensively prepared for their testimony (e.g. mock hearing and questioned by former prosecutors and former TV news people).

The Dr Phil video was powerful. I am spreading that to people I know.

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Originally posted by corsair:


Had a good discussion with a friend about this....

Does your friend have any clue as to what actually happened here on these campuses like Penn? For years now, conservative speakers and even students have been run off campus and blocked, harassed, cancelled because “their words are violence”.

But then they let students and other groups march around campus with signs that literally say “Gas the Jews” “Eliminate Israel” and it’s perfectly fine? Those words aren’t violence you see when in fact they couldn’t be a more perfect definition of violence!

I covered that....

Thanks for posting the Dr. Phil video. Straight and to the point. I was moved to tears when he talked of Oct 7th.