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Draining the NFL swamp does not have to = no NFL America vs NFL is an easy choice for me though. | |||
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Rule #1: Use enough gun |
Didn't the NFL deny the Dallas Cowboys' request to wear some kind of insignia on their helmets to support local LEO's after the Dallas cops were assassinated during the BLM march a couple of years ago? So much for "free speech", huh? When a strong man, fully armed, guards his own house, his possessions are undisturbed. Luke 11:21 "Every nation in every region now has a decision to make. Either you are with us, or you are with the terrorists." -- George W. Bush | |||
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Nature is full of magnificent creatures |
^^^If any other company or organization did something like that, we would understand the message being sent and react accordingly. | |||
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Cut and plug |
Yes they did, and for reference that was just last year. | |||
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Now in Florida |
Other things prohibited by the NFL: -Wearing purple cleats to bring awareness to domestic violence -Wearing cleats that said "Never Forget" to honor 9/11 victims -Writing "Find a cure" on a player's face with eye black to support breast cancer research. Seems the NFL only allows freedom of speech for leftist narratives. | |||
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Ammoholic |
Thank you. I will be watching my Skins still. I have already wrote them once. I will call/write PR director, owner, sales, and GM as well and let them know why I will not be attending games or buying any merchandise this year, and for the foreseeable future if they don't make their players show respect to the flag/Anthem. I don't want the NFL to go away, I want them to right the ship. My efforts are going to be to that end. My fondest childhood memories are from going to RFK with my dad. Football is part of my life. I encourage any members here that don't want to permanently give up football to do the same and write sales, executives, and PR of their respective teams. Getting mad and boycotting doesn't do anything to fix the problem, actively trying to get them to realize they fucked up might. If you do choose to boycott couple it with contacting teams and sponsors to tell them why you are not using their products any longer, otherwise your efforts are in vain. If we don't say something, this madness will never end. Take a stand, make it known. Jesse Sic Semper Tyrannis | |||
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Get Off My Lawn |
The "free expression" excuse is a damn lie. A total, complete lie. I posted this earlier, but a few examples of "free expression", and mind you, not all of these are uniform related, that were frowned upon by the NFL and levied fines by the same "tolerant" organization. NFL Threatens Fines Against Players Who Wanted to Commemorate 9/11 In September 2016, three NFL players planned to wear cleats in honor of the 15th anniversary of the September 11 attacks on America. The NFL put a stop to it with threats of fines. NFL Fines Player over Headband In 1986, an NFL player was fined $5,000 for wearing a headband with a company logo on it. NFL Fines Player over Breast Cancer Advocacy In 2015, the NFL fined a player $5,757 for wearing eye black that read “Find the Cure” in support of breast cancer awareness. NFL Orders Players Not to Honor Fallen Police Officers In July 2016, in honor of five police officer murdered in cold blood by a Black Lives Matter activist, the Dallas Cowboys wanted to honor the slain officers with a small helmet decal. The NFL put a stop to it. NFL Fines Player for “Thrusting” Just last year, NFL player Antonio Brown was fined $23,309 for expressing himself on the field by “thrusting.” NFL Fines Player for “Hopping” Just last year, NFL player Trai Turner was fined $9,115 for expressing himself on the field by hopping. NFL Players Fined for Mimicking the Taking of a Photograph Just last year, NFL players Victor Cruz and Odell Beckham were each fined $12,145 for expressing themselves on the field by mimicking the taking of a photograph. NFL Fines Player for Marching in Place Just last year, NFL player Terrelle Pryor was fined $9,115 for expressing himself on the field by marching in place. NFL Fines Player Over Raising Awareness for Domestic Violence In 2015, NFL player William Gay was fined for wearing purple cleats meant to raise awareness for domestic abuse. "I’m not going to read Time Magazine, I’m not going to read Newsweek, I’m not going to read any of these magazines; I mean, because they have too much to lose by printing the truth"- Bob Dylan, 1965 | |||
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Bad dog! |
The wisdom with which you run this forum, Para, is never surprising, but always gratifying to see. ______________________________________________________ "You get much farther with a kind word and a gun than with a kind word alone." | |||
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Lighten up and laugh |
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A DUI will keep you out of the military. A DUI while serving derails your career. Likely get the door shown to you, no retirement. There are plenty of folks that want to serve and abide by societies rules. The same is not true for NFL millionaires. Winning is more important than felonies even. Felons are more important than America. Even giving their middle finger to the flag and national anthem, by kneeling, is okay just win for me. | |||
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wishing we were congress |
video of Buffalo Bills player stretching during anthem https://townhall.com/tipsheet/...-the-anthem-n2386714 and Clinton: "Well, I think it's deeply troubling that the president would be attacking black athletes for expressing their opinions peacefully,” “Protest is a part of the American way of life and it’s something that I’m very proud of whether I agree or disagree peaceful protest is part of what has helped us make progress, learn more, be a better country over time.” ***************** They still target President Trump, but miss the fact that most Americans don't take kindly to grossly disrespecting the anthem and the flag. If all the "kneelers" were white, would you be less angry? Didn't think so. | |||
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Essayons |
Thanks, Ackks! The article is an excellent summary of the common man's attitude and position regarding what's going on with the NFL protests. And the comments posted with the article are generally just outstanding! Here's an example:
Thanks, Sap | |||
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Do you see what they are doing? Trying to build a case of Trump being a racist that they say he is. Trouble is, he didn't "attack black athletes" he said PLAYERS. And no one is correcting this which isn't unexpected... Hedley Lamarr: Wait, wait, wait. I'm unarmed. Bart: Alright, we'll settle this like men, with our fists. Hedley Lamarr: Sorry, I just remembered . . . I am armed. | |||
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Thank you Para. I’ll also say that whoever posted about the NFL denying the Cowboys permission to put a small decal on the back of their helmets honoring the Dallas police officers killed at the BLM march has a great point I hadn’t previously considered. When taking that into account the NFL is taking sides, and the wrong one at that. The NFL in essence isn’t promoting open discourse but rather promoting one side over another. I can deal with protesting but not if the NFL is going to allow it while at the same time ruling against honoring police/military/firefighters etc. I’ve got some serious re-evaluation to do. "Clear Eyes. Full Hearts. Can't Lose." | |||
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bigger government = smaller citizen |
They're building a narrative for themselves. That's it. It's an insular world surrounded by a one-way mirror and all they see is each other. For example, they (in their bubble) talked up Trump's craziness and bigoted views until the election, convincing one another that the idea of President Trump was a fantasy that no one believed in. Well no one they knew anyway. Go back and watch the election night videos and you see authentic, real dumbfounded people. How can this be, they asked. This is impossible! No one I know would even dream of voting for Trump. They're going to be surprised at the shocking revelation of sliding ratings and eroding viewership. "No one I know thinks these players are doing anything wrong!" It's the same thing as "No woman I know would ever dream of voting for that pig!" Except they did. In droves. “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it.”—H.L. Mencken | |||
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Ammoholic |
The difference is we aren't the ones virtue signalling. We vote with our wallets and in the booth. They vote with twitter and facebook where a few hundred or thousand of the loudest cry babies catch their or MSM eyes. Silently we go about our business and get shit done. Eventually they will wake up one day and realize that Madonna and Ashley Judd don't reflect the people of this country outside of a dozen major cities. Jesse Sic Semper Tyrannis | |||
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bigger government = smaller citizen |
I agree. As soon as I saw Joe Schmoe burning his Steelers gear in his back yard, I knew the NFL was in big trouble. “The urge to save humanity is almost always only a false-face for the urge to rule it.”—H.L. Mencken | |||
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Essayons |
I applaud your open mind, dcowboyscr. Thanks, Sap | |||
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Thank you Very little |
Not a big NFL fan so my boycott doesn't mean much as far as financial support or lack of support, however have been an NBA fan, and with the Golden State Billionaires Steph Curry and Co, Lebron, and now the head coach taking shots at Trump, add in Spurs Coach Poppovich. Their true colors are coming out, twisting and turning the whole thing into a Trump Issue and racism to advance the cause. And now another NBA superstar Coach of the Spurs "white people especially must be made uncomfortable" Linky Thingy | |||
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Received the below in an email. I struck through the conjecture about motives as it detracts from the question. Who is Joe Lockhart? ============= "So the attention is the NFL Players taking a knee. Is it something they all just suddenly felt was needed? Are they against America? Are they against Veterans? Are they against the Flag? Is it police abuse that has struck a nerve? Is it abuse on Blacks in General? What I honestly believe is, it's the Democrats again, grinding the organs to get people to act in ways they don't even understand. The NFL got a new executive vice president of communications and top public relations official. Joe Lockhart. Who is Joe Lockhart? He is the one grinding the organ at the NFL.... Joe Lockhart sold his home to the Obama's this past May. Joe Lockhart was Bill Clinton's spokesperson during his time as President. Joe Lockhart was John Kerry's senior advisor. Joe Lockhart was the one who started the rumors on President Bush. The lies about calling CBS to run stories ect. Joe Lockhart is very connected into the Democrat Party....willing to do anything to help the agenda. He is one of the believers of the ends justify the means for political points. I know this might not be of interest to some but there was a time when Facebook was considered not political and open for anything...that is until Joe Lockhart joined as their company spokesperson....then the censorship went into force. Was it just timing...I doubt it." ================== I do not know if Mr. Lockhart is a central player in these events. Seems worthy of some scrutiny. The owners will have to actively participate in draining the swamp, to remain viable organizations. | |||
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