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Originally posted by marksman41:

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Originally posted by comet24:

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Originally posted by zdog16:
Just sent the Cowpuffs a nice email. Pretty much told them I was born and raised in Texas and have been a fan since birth 39years. Then I told them my father served 21 years in the Army and is buried in Arlington National Cemetary section 60.Then I told the puffs when the Anthem plays you STAND with your hand over your heart or in a salute. No other choices. Can’t be a fan anymore and good riddance!

Every Cowboy player was standing arm in arm for the National Anthem. Maybe they didn't all have hands over there heart but each and every player was standing facing the flag.

Playing both sides of the fence is not compromise, it's weak and wrong. It doesn't matter if it's before the anthem is played or not, giving any credence whatsoever to what this form of kneeling stands for, in the stadium, on the taxpayer's dime (meaning during the entire event - pre-, post-, and during game time) is surrendering integrity. As Mike Rowe and others have pointed out, there will be those who look for any justification, no matter how small or poorly reasoned, to continue to lend their support to people and an organization that don't deserve any.

Of course it's your choice to do as you wish. God bless America for that. Tonight was just a transparent stunt by the Cowboys. Some see through it, others don't wish to.

" Not to speak is to speak. Not to act is to act.” - Dietrich Bonhoeffer

No such thing as 'taking a neutral stance' on this issue.

Now if the Super Bowl audience drops 50% ...

I quit watching pro football last year and don't miss it at all. I am a bit puzzled by the whole taking a knee thing though. I just can't figure out what the hell the point is. What do they intend to accomplish? What does the National Anthem have to do with whatever the hell it is they're protesting? Maybe I would know if I paid more attention, but I don't.

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Originally posted by bobandmikako:
I quit watching pro football last year and don't miss it at all. I am a bit puzzled by the whole taking a knee thing though. I just can't figure out what the hell the point is. What do they intend to accomplish? What does the National Anthem have to do with whatever the hell it is they're protesting? Maybe I would know if I paid more attention, but I don't.

I'd really like to know what the duck exactly they are protesting and how exactly kneeling benefits the cause. I guarantee you could ask a random sample of ten of the kneelers and not get a single cognizant answer.

Some numbskull reporter asked SecDef Mattis about this nonsense. He had a great response

Mattis on NFL Protests: I'm The Secretary of Defense and I Defend the Country

Secretary of Defense Jim Mattis gave quite possibly the best answer of all time in regards to the recent protests by NFL players during the playing of the Star-Spangled Banner.

Mattis' take on the whole situation: I'm the secretary of defense, and this has nothing to do with anything.



Mattis was asked about the NFL on Sunday while traveling to India during media availability, and the quip from the transcript went viral on Monday afternoon. Clearly, Mad Dog wasn't having any of it. The question-and-answer session ended after Mattis reaffirmed that he had no opinion about the NFL.

This isn't the first time Mattis has delivered an A+ rebuttal to a question--he once remarked that nothing keeps him awake at night, but rather he keeps people up at night.

I mean, Mattis has a point. Although he's a former general, he certainly has more important things to worry about than NFL players taking a knee during the National Anthem. His job isn't to commentate on the activities of football players--he's supposed to defend the country. That's his priority, and he'll be sticking to it.

And frankly, in this world of everything being overly politicized--I'm glad he's not going to go off-script and create unnecessary drama.

I’m a big football fan, I have spent my Sunday’s watching the Cleveland Browns which is painful enough. But I’m done. There’s plenty of other things I can do and starting this week I’m going to do something else. And that goes for the Cavs and Lebron. I’m sick of him too.

Here's your NFL: $4.50 a cup for tap water

Oh yes, yes, "free market economy" harrumphharrumph. If the people don't like the prices, they should just go thirsty, the cheap bastards! If they can't afford luxuries such as water on a hot day, they shouldn't complain.

Protesting 101. Clearly state your reason for protesting.
2. Clearly state your goal. What must be done in order for you to stop protesting.
The NFL has done neither of these. Therefore they look like buffoons which they are but now anti American unpatriotic buffoons.

They are all complete and total idiots choking their own golden chicken to death.

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Originally posted by marksman41:
There is no middle ground here yet the Cowboys are trying to have it both ways - to support those who support the BLM cause, and to show they support America and its principles. BLM principles and American principles (Constitution, etc.) are completely at odds with each other so this can only be a binary proposition. You are either for one ideal or the other.

This sums it up nicely.

It's all about the First Amendment-- can't abridge that right to free speech!-- when it's football players disrespecting our nation. Or BLM praising the murder of police. But when Milo or Ann Coulter try to speak on college campuses, it's "hate speech" and they are shut down. The student body at Cornell recently voted to "ban hate speech on campus." It's like equality on Animal Farm, some speech is more free than other speech.

Americans who would normally be disinterested in politics are waking up to what's been going on, and childish, pointless nonsense like this is the reason.

The irony is, this whole thing began on the basis of a lie. Hands up, don’t shoot never happened. I am 50. Had #12 on my jersey and helmet and have been watching the Cowboys play on Thanksgiving Day since I can remember. No more. If you want to see an example of a Patriot, look up Roger Staubach’s bio. And Pat Tillman is surely spinning in his grave right now. As a veteran and an American, I can’t watch these fools anymore. I’m done with the NFL.

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I call it the Dixie Chicks syndrome. The idiots are clueless about who their audience is. They have shit in their own mess kit and its going to show up in the bottom line

Oh.... they've studied who their audience is... but they still don't get it.

Trump understands who his supporters are – and who NFL fans are. Apparently, Roger Goodell does not. NFL fans happen to mirror Trump supporters quite closely. Note the Scarborough Research chart below.

Any team that hides in the locker room during the national anthem should be met with a barrage of over priced beverages nachos and food upon emergence.

Thinking more about this and the Cowboys fan who said he'll watch because they stood...

I think Jerry Jones is in a tough spot. He can't alienate the players or the fans. He needs them both to sell his product. He tried pleasing both last night, and I suppose I will give him some credit for trying to work a compromise.

He did get his players to stand when the other owners couldn't.

While I am happy they stood, I'm still not satisfied. They locked arms, which is a protest, during our national anthem. That still irks me. Even if they didn't, their kneeling to thugs like BLM still pisses me off.

At the end of the day, what it is about for me is that these people clearly do not share my values. Their protest is a constant reminder to me of this difference. I cannot in good conscious continue to help enriching those who's beliefs and values are so different from my own when they use the money and the platform I help to give them to spew said values.

I'm just done helping to provide the platform folks use to promote values so different than my own. It's not just the NFL either. Steph Curry, LeBron James...I'm done helping them as well.

Prosports has gone political and watching them feels like donating to Democratic election fund. I'm out.

I am still boycotting the NFL but I am proud that all of my Panthers stood. Only the POS Peppers hid in the locker room without anyone knowing.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Here's your NFL: $4.50 a cup for tap water

Oh yes, yes, "free market economy" harrumphharrumph. If the people don't like the prices, they should just go thirsty, the cheap bastards! If they can't afford luxuries such as water on a hot day, they shouldn't complain.

You mean, No Free Lunch?

Anyone who has lived in a Superbowl host city knows the NFL is worse than the Mafia. They want a piece of every action, they say what facilities are taken over, traffic control, taxi and limo, maybe even barbershops.

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Originally posted by justjoe:
It's all about the First Amendment-- can't abridge that right to free speech!-- when it's football players disrespecting our nation. Or BLM praising the murder of police. But when Milo or Ann Coulter try to speak on college campuses, it's "hate speech" and they are shut down. The student body at Cornell recently voted to "ban hate speech on campus." It's like equality on Animal Farm, some speech is more free than other speech.

These are also the same people who cheered running off Brendan Eich (CEO of Mozilla) when it was discovered that he *gasp* supported Prop 8 (opposing gay marriage) in California and were giddy when Google fired James Damore for saying that men and women had *gasp* different biological makeup.

Watching CBS this morning. They spent the first ten minutes of the show giving time to how racist Trump is. How teams are staying in locker rooms during the Anthem to "avoid conflict". Not eight minutes later, a story about the Invictus games and how inspiring our veterans are.

Well, Gayle King seemed more interested in Harry's new girlfriend.

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Originally posted by parabellum:
Americans who would normally be disinterested in politics are waking up to what's been going on, and childish, pointless nonsense like this is the reason.

In a way I believe the players protesting during the national anthem did us a favor. If in the beginning they had done their so-called protest before the anthem, like the Cowboys, they would still have pissed off a lot of fans but not as many, or to the degree, that they have now. Like so much of the Leftist bullshit, it's likely their bullshit protest would have gotten "normalized" by their disengenuous behavior of kneeling before then standing for the anthem. Fans would have grumbled but, in all likelihood, few would have been disgusted enough to stop supporting the NFL and many would still lie to themselves that it's just a free speech thing, instead of what it really is - the continued Leftist goal to destroy American society as we've known it.

Apparently the Leftists are learning from their overreach this time, the Cowboys performance is proof of that and we'll see more subtlety and incrementalism from these bastards in the future.