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If anyone needs more encouragement to stack it deep...

From the folks at SGAmmo

News from Shotshow 2024: I just got home from 4 days in Las Vegas at the shotshow, where I met with the people from the factories we work with, factory sales people, factory directors and owners, importers, etc. The big point of discussion seemed to be shortness in supply for nitrocellulose, which is the raw material used to make gunpowder and other propellants and explosives. Based on these conversations, the issue seems to be based on 2 factors, decreased availability in the supply chain and increased demand for the manufacturing of military ordnance. Getting into the details and a little more, a huge percentage of the nitrocellulose used to make gunpowder historically came from China and Russia, however according to my conversations with industry partners, the Chinese manufacturers who historically were the biggest suppliers at over 30% of the market share are no longer willing to ship raw nitrocellulose to the USA or NATO member countries in attempt to reduce the USA & NATO's ability to supply Ukrainian forces with artillery shells, and of course Russia who historically was the 2nd biggest supplier is out of the supply chain as well. This decrease in supply in raw material has gunpowder manufacturers in the USA raising prices dramatically and cutting off many of the smaller ammo manufacturers. The 2nd part of this issue is the demand for military ordnance, like 155mm artillery shells that use huge quantities gunpowder propellants, and the gunpowder manufacturers switching production to this type of gunpowder with what supply of nitrocellulose they do get. The first reason is that they always put the US government's needs before those of the commercial market, and the second reason is that it is simply much more profitable to manufacturer military ordnance than it is small caliber ammunition, so they get a much more profitable price manufacturing powder for artillery shells. In conclusion, while most of the factories seem to have gunpowder stockpiled today, this issue is expected to catch up to them no later than the summer of 2024 and possibly within a few months, and when it does it will mean the factories will be capable of producing much less small caliber ammunition to sell to the US commercial market. If demand for ammo is low to moderate, you may not see a big change, but if demand were to go way up as it does periodically, the factories will not be able to ramp up capacity to fill that demand. In my opinion, a lot could go wrong in the commercial ammo supply chain in 2024 and it would be wise to stock up sooner than later as 2024 price increases have just started to set in on just a handful of select items so far, and availability is still good which has held prices down temporarily.

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I read that and then checked my email and saw the same letter with attached specials. It's been a while since I last ordered. They may be talking their book a little, not that they need to, but it's only the truth.

Seemed like a good time to buy: final bill, 290.71. There were 8 left after I bought one Wink

1000 Round Can - 9mm NATO 124 Grain Winchester Mil-Spec Ammo - Q4318 - Packed in M2A1 Metal Canister

https://www.sgammo.com/product...o-q4318-packed-m2a1-

Interestingly, my first order in 2012 was for a 1000 rd case - 9mm Luger Aguila 124 grain FMJ ammo that cost 197.80 plus $16 shipping.
 
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Just topped off my supply of Federal HST for the 9mm, 40S&W and 45 ACP. Got plenty of FMJ, and can make a lot more.


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the Chinese manufacturers who historically were the biggest suppliers at over 30% of the market share are no longer willing to ship raw nitrocellulose to the USA or NATO member countries in attempt to reduce the USA & NATO's ability to supply Ukrainian forces with artillery shells, and of course Russia who historically was the 2nd biggest supplier is out of the supply chain as well.



Sure hope people wake up soon and stop depending on our enemies for the thinks we need.


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OK Californy get your trucks ready and load up....



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1000 of S&B 9mm and 200 of Winchester 223, $380 shipped from Gunprime



 
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I shoot a lot of .357 SIG.
But... it's gotten really expensive.
However, my P229 also has a .40 S&W barrel which I may swap into the pistol as I can find .40 S&W ammo a lot cheaper. If I'm lucky, I can find .40 S&W almost as cheap as 9mm.

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These were at Costco today, four boxes in a tray I wouldn't call them heavy duty but they do have a rubber seal and made in the US. $20





 
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^^^^
I picked some up for organizing purposes. Their latches can be hard to pop open. The trick is to push down on the top in the front by the latches.


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I picked up one too. Not really heavy duty but not bad for the price.


 
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I wasn't too happy when I filled them up with ammo, they are tapered on the side instead of square. It limits the amount you can put in there

Oh well, I'd still buy more for $20



 
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