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Originally posted by johntsi:
Well apparently the rep was not communicated with correctly. The paperwork they sent says as follows.

"Inspected the pistol, wear marks from the charging handle are normal and inherent to the design."

Gun returned as it was sent.

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Originally posted by johntsi:
Well apparently the rep was not communicated with correctly. The paperwork they sent says as follows.

"Inspected the pistol, wear marks from the charging handle are normal and inherent to the design."

Gun returned as it was sent.

Looks like i need to patent my paperclip design and make some money really quick here lol since Sig just flipped you the bird.

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Originally posted by Dieseljayy:

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Originally posted by johntsi:
Well apparently the rep was not communicated with correctly. The paperwork they sent says as follows.

"Inspected the pistol, wear marks from the charging handle are normal and inherent to the design."

Gun returned as it was sent.

Looks like i need to patent my paperclip design and make some money really quick here lol since Sig just flipped you the bird.

Jayy: I've been thinking about trying to use a flat piece of thin and "springy" metal, just wide enough for the buffer screw to hold in place, but thin enough to fit in the charging handle channel. The metal would have two bends in it: a 45 to head toward the handle, and then another bend at the tip so that the contact surface with the charging handle is rounded. Same basic design as your paperclip, just with thin sheet metal.

Until someone comes out with an MPX aftermarket charging handle, that is.

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Originally posted by johntsi:
Well apparently the rep was not communicated with correctly. The paperwork they sent says as follows.

"Inspected the pistol, wear marks from the charging handle are normal and inherent to the design."

Gun returned as it was sent.

"wear marks from the charging handle are normal and inherent to the design."

Then the design is inherently flawed. Whats even more embarrassing is a paper clip fixes it. Thats not to mention the issue of the lowers chipping.

I have come so close on many occasions to purchasing an MPX. This has stopped me every time.

Sig is publicly screwing the pooch (and their customers) on this one.

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Originally posted by Andyb:

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Originally posted by johntsi:
Well apparently the rep was not communicated with correctly. The paperwork they sent says as follows.

"Inspected the pistol, wear marks from the charging handle are normal and inherent to the design."

Gun returned as it was sent.

"wear marks from the charging handle are normal and inherent to the design."

Then the design is inherently flawed. Whats even more embarrassing is a paper clip fixes it. Thats not to mention the issue of the lowers chipping.

I have come so close on many occasions to purchasing an MPX. This has stopped me every time.

Sig is publicly screwing the pooch (and their customers) on this one.

I have similar wear marks on my AR-15.

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Originally posted by PPGMD:
I have similar wear marks on my AR-15.

Wear marks on the finish don't bother me. Chipping the actual metal (not just the finish) on the lower? Oh yes. Consider me bothered.

Can someone with a half decent camera take a few pics of the supposed chipping?

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Originally posted by AggiePhil:
Can someone with a half decent camera take a few pics of the supposed chipping?

This is one of the pics on Page 36. Chipping on the right side looks like it's taken the corner clean off the inside edge. I suspect similar issues on the left side.

The "wear" issue is the larger trapezoid. Not such a big deal to me.

Hmmmm. Given the scale provided by the ridge detail in your palms, it looks as though the chip is incredibly small. Should be fine.

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Originally posted by Ferrari Steve:

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Originally posted by PPGMD:
I have similar wear marks on my AR-15.

Wear marks on the finish don't bother me. Chipping the actual metal (not just the finish) on the lower? Oh yes. Consider me bothered.

This^^^ The large wear mark on the lower doesn't concern me. It's the chipping on the leading edge of the upper that bothers me. I too have wear on my AR's. I DON'T have any chipping or folding of any kind taking place. The chipping is larger and wider spread on mine.

What is causing the chipping? The charging handle or something else?

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Originally posted by tpd312:
What is causing the chipping? The charging handle or something else?

So it turns out the chips are coming from the long curve of the charging handle catching.


Charging handle edge causing issues.

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Originally posted by Ferrari Steve:

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Originally posted by Dieseljayy:

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Originally posted by johntsi:
Well apparently the rep was not communicated with correctly. The paperwork they sent says as follows.

"Inspected the pistol, wear marks from the charging handle are normal and inherent to the design."

Gun returned as it was sent.

Looks like i need to patent my paperclip design and make some money really quick here lol since Sig just flipped you the bird.

Jayy: I've been thinking about trying to use a flat piece of thin and "springy" metal, just wide enough for the buffer screw to hold in place, but thin enough to fit in the charging handle channel. The metal would have two bends in it: a 45 to head toward the handle, and then another bend at the tip so that the contact surface with the charging handle is rounded. Same basic design as your paperclip, just with thin sheet metal.

Until someone comes out with an MPX aftermarket charging handle, that is.

Steve:
Ok so if we wanted to fix this right we could use a flat piece of spring steel. Tap the part that holds the recoil springs in place and affix the spring steel to that part. That way you don't have this odd ball wire sticking out that weaves through the upper. All they would have to do is make modifications to that single part to have a lip of spring steel pressing the charging handle up and the issue is solved....

Honeslty it would add maybe .20 to a part... Simple fix and they can reuse all the old blocks to do this. I don't get why Bayer arms or someone else doesn't just male that part with a piece of spring steel attached to it... This isn't rocket sience.
Also I don't notice chipping of the lower just wear on finish and chipping of the upper.

Ps: I was just using a paperclip because I couldn't find a thin piece of metal like you descibed but I like that idea as a paperclip just doesn't seem classy.. Much like Sigs professional response to this issue.

just picked one of these up, fired about 20 rounds through it and than found this thread.

I have some wear marks, but no chips in the area shown in the picture.

Where are you guys putting the velcro strips?

GUARANTEED EASIEST SOLUTION:

Pull the charging handle rearward, lock the bolt open and then gently guide the charging handle forward and snap it into position. When ready to fire, hit the bolt release.

When the mag is empty, the bolt stays open. Just slap in a loaded mag, hit the bolt release and rock on.

Minimal use of the charging handle is required here. This is how I've always rolled, even before the issue arose in this thread, with no issues. Not a very hard accommodation to make in operating a new platform, to keep it looking like new.

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Originally posted by Dieseljayy:

Prepare your rotten tomatoes for tossing in my general direction....

Honestly, that amount of wear would not bother me. On the plus side, now that it's "broken in", it probably won't get any worse. I'd throw some Aluma-Black on there and never give it a second thought.
But I've also never been one to put velcro on my AR's brass deflector to prevent marking. I understand some people like to keep their guns in NRA MINT condition but to do that you really can't even shoot 'em can you.

Also, rather than stuffing a bunch of metal pieces inside your lower where they can wreak all kinds of havoc, seems like you could kill two birds by putting a piece of the aforementioned velcro where the large square area of wear is. Could that act as as a buffer and bump the charging handle up just enough during cycling to clear those two corners?

Lastly, I'd take a fine file to the bottom of the charging handle and give a slight bevel to all those leading edges that show wear including the two radii. That would have to alleviate most of the issues.

Can someone post a pic with the charging handle closed. Does any of this wear even show then??

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Originally posted by Ferrari Steve:

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Originally posted by Odin0101:
Last week I got my 3 lug adapter from Trosusa.com and just installed it. Mark easy to work with. Great little adapter. Very well made and finished nicely. Only complaint is there was no spot for me to use a wrench to tightly. Other than that great adapter.

Before taking off the flash hider and after Adapter installed (Forgot it was Left Hand tightening, lucky remembered that quickly)

VERY nice, Odin. I just got an email back from Mark and will be sending my $79 to him shortly.

From the looks of where the 3 lug adapter sits, it appears you'd be able to now attach ANY type of silencer with a 3-lug adapter? Could this be the answer to letting my Osprey 9MM work with my MPX?

Steve, as far as I'm aware there is only a 3 lug mount for the octane series, not the Osprey so this will not work for your purpose. Silencerco does make a m13.5x1LH piston for metric 9mm (like P226) and then you can buy the fixed barrel spacer but i would assume it would then hit the rail given the large rectangular shape of the Osprey and the fact the threads sit slightly inside the rail...

In my blog article on the MPX trigger warranty issue (http://www.stevejenkins.com/bl...-void-your-warranty/), I said I hoped Bill Geissele was "locked away in his workshop, tinkering away at a solution that will keep both Sig and gun modders happy."

Bill replied to my blog post this morning, saying:

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HK guns also have the bridge. High impulse guns will toss the hammer back violently so that the hammer will hit the disconnector. By repeatedly striking the disconnector it will actually fracture over time. As a trigger similar to the Sig the ALG trigger may have this problem. However, the Geissele triggers are designed so that the bridge is not needed and the hi velocity of the bolt carrier will not effect it. And even if there was a problem Geissele's golden warrenty is always there to help you out.

Please cease using this forum to promote your blog.