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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

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Originally posted by slosig:

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Originally posted by SIGnified:
Wellp, Trump has gone and involved the fifth.

Can you elaborate?

Trump invoked the 5th Amendment during a deposition today with regards to the NY attorney general's civil investigation into his real estate business.

As is his constitutional right. You know no matter how he answered questions, they' figure a way to turn it against him. And how many "I invoke the 5th' did we see during dems on the stand.

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Originally posted by 12131:

So, if they're crooks and want to "get" you, they can plant anything inside your place? Or, have I been watching too much TV?

But do they really need to plant anything? It seems that they just grabbed a bunch of boxes of papers and documents with the intention of finding "what they're looking for later." In other words, as Stalin's secret police chief Lavrentiy Beria said to him, "show me the man and I'll show you the crime."

Certainly there could be an element of fabrication here, but I bet you all of us could be charged with some crime under the federal code if the feds just starting digging. Presume the man guilty first and fill in the blanks later.

FBI Had Mole Inside Mar-A-Lago: Report

https://www.zerohedge.com/poli...sts-planted-evidence

According to Newsweek, the FBI had a 'confidential human source' (a mole) inside Mar-a-Lago, who was "able to identify what classified documents former President Trump was still hiding and even the location of those documents."

The FBI is still spying on Trump, this time with a mole in his own residence?

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

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Originally posted by wcb6092:
According to Newsweek

Read my signature.

I keep hearing / reading "classified documents" were taken. Doesn't the President of the United States decide what's Classified or not? Hildabeast never was and never will be President, so the same line of reasoning doesn't pertain to her.

DOJ ordered to respond after requests to unseal FBI's Trump raid warrant

https://www.washingtonexaminer...i-trump-raid-warrant

The Department of Justice must respond to motions to unseal the warrant behind the FBI raid of former President Donald Trump’s home in Mar-a-Lago, the magistrate judge who approved the unprecedented search ordered Thursday.

Magistrate Judge Bruce Reinhart, who is believed to have signed the still-sealed FBI warrant approving the bureau’s Trump raid, said the DOJ must now “file a Response to the Motion to Unseal” following efforts by Albany-based news outlet the Times Union and the conservative advocacy group Judicial Watch requesting the DOJ make the warrant public.

Reinhart said the DOJ’s response may be filed “ex parte and under seal as necessary to avoid disclosing matters already under seal,” meaning that the full response may be secret but that “the Government shall file a redacted Response in the public record” too.

The Times Union lawyer wrote that FBI agents “applied for and received a search warrant in connection with an investigation that involved the residence of Donald J. Trump in Palm Beach” and that “I am filing this request seeking the unsealing request of these court records.”

Judicial Watch wrote that it is “investigating the potential politicization” of the FBI and the DOJ and whether they are “abusing their law enforcement powers to harass a likely future political opponent of President Biden” and that “if the Court were to unseal the materials, Judicial Watch would obtain the materials, analyze them, and make them available to the public.”

Reinhart said that the “Government may file a consolidated Response to all Motions to Seal” and that the DOJ will have until Monday to respond.

The magistrate judge's name came under considerable scrutiny Tuesday after multiple news outlets reported that he was the one who signed off on the FBI's raid of Mar-a-Lago. In particular, his connection to notorious sex offender Jeffrey Epstein was highlighted.

Reinhart left his job as an assistant U.S. attorney on Jan. 1, 2008. The next day, he began representing some of Epstein's employees. He was accused in a lawsuit filed by two of Epstein's victims of leaving the DOJ to provide Epstein inside information, allegations Reinhart denied, the Miami Herald reported in 2018.

The U.S. District Court for the Southern District of Florida removed Reinhart's page from its website on Tuesday afternoon after his connection to Epstein went viral on social media.

"Access denied," Reinhart's page now reads. "You are not authorized to access this page."

Reinhart was appointed by district judges to his current position as a magistrate judge in 2018.

The judge recused himself from a civil lawsuit involving Trump and his 2016 presidential opponent, former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

Trump sued Clinton, the Democratic National Committee, and numerous political entities and figures in March for promoting stories that alleged Trump was colluding with Russia during the 2016 election.

Reinhart recused himself from the case on June 22, citing a portion of the U.S. code that requires any magistrate judges to disqualify themselves if they have a "personal bias or prejudice concerning a party, or personal knowledge of disputed evidentiary facts concerning the proceeding."

Reinhart did not specify in his recusal if the party he had a personal bias or prejudice toward was Trump, Clinton, or one or more of the dozens of other defendants in the lawsuit.

So the magistrate who recused himself earlier in his career from all things Trump, suddenly felt it ok to sign a search warrant on Trump a few days ago.

Legal beagles, am I not remembering correctly, but if you refuse yourself you are basically recused for life WRT that specific legal field.

This stinks

Holy shit, if this turns out to be the case then IT’S ON


HUGE DEVELOPMENT: Report Alleges FBI “Had Personal Stake” in Mar-a-Lago Raid – Agents Were After Spygate Documents Trump Was Holding That Likely Implicated FBI

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Originally posted by old dino:

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Originally posted by 12131:
Can someone explain to me, how these assholes can just kick Trump's attorneys out to the curb then did whatever they did inside the resort? Sure they had their warrant, but doesn't the other side have the right to be present and observe what transpires?

In my nearly four decades as a LEO writing and serving search warrants on a local, state (Washington) and even a federal level when sub-assigned to DEA on a gang task force ... the other side does not have the right of having an observer present to observe. A search warrant return of what was taken in detail is required to be left at the scene.

My experience as well. Most of the search warrants I have participated in have been with the Texas Rangers and the home owners were not allowed to be in the house. In a search warrant I participated in with the FBI, the home owners were allowed to sit in the kitchen but not be present in the areas we were searching. However when we found a locked box under the bed, we did call them in and asked what was in it. They got very anxious and said they would not tell us. We figured it was drugs and after opening it, it was crazy sex toys along with the largest dildo I had ever seen!

At least in this case it sounds like Trump had surveillance cameras, hopefully inside, and they refused to turn them off. I sure hope one day we get to see the probable cause listed in the search warrant.

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Originally posted by StorminNormin:

At least in this case it sounds like Trump had surveillance cameras, hopefully inside, and they refused to turn them off. I sure hope one day we get to see the probable cause listed in the search warrant.

I thought the Jackboots requested the staff to kill the cameras and when they refused, the Feebs moved to kill the systems themselves. Meaning there is no video of what they did during those 9 hours.

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Originally posted by bald1:

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Originally posted by StorminNormin:

At least in this case it sounds like Trump had surveillance cameras, hopefully inside, and they refused to turn them off. I sure hope one day we get to see the probable cause listed in the search warrant.

I thought the Jackboots requested the staff to kill the cameras and when they refused, the Feebs moved to kill the systems themselves. Meaning there is no video of what they did during those 9 hours.

If they did turn off the system themselves, then that will be interesting to see if they are allowed to do that. I have no idea of the legality of that.

To me, if there is nothing to hide then let things be recorded. I worked for one agency once that did not allow the audio recording of interviews or interrogations. Recording them protects everyone unless you are doing something you shouldn’t. Thank goodness I now work for an agency that requires it and also Texas state law now requires interviews of certain crimes to be recorded.

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Originally posted by PASig:
Holy shit, if this turns out to be the case then IT’S ON


HUGE DEVELOPMENT: Report Alleges FBI “Had Personal Stake” in Mar-a-Lago Raid – Agents Were After Spygate Documents Trump Was Holding That Likely Implicated FBI

I presume you did not copy and past because that website is full of nothing but click bait and annoying pictures and crap advertisements. And it would take you 3 and a half days to copy and paste the actual article.

I am not sure I have ever been able to read more than one paragraph from the pundit because of their layout.

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Originally posted by StorminNormin:

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Originally posted by bald1:

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Originally posted by StorminNormin:

At least in this case it sounds like Trump had surveillance cameras, hopefully inside, and they refused to turn them off. I sure hope one day we get to see the probable cause listed in the search warrant.

I thought the Jackboots requested the staff to kill the cameras and when they refused, the Feebs moved to kill the systems themselves. Meaning there is no video of what they did during those 9 hours.

If they did turn off the system themselves, then that will be interesting to see if they are allowed to do that. I have no idea of the legality of that.

To me, if there is nothing to hide then let things be recorded. I worked for one agency once that did not allow the audio recording of interviews or interrogations. Recording them protects everyone unless you are doing something you shouldn’t. Thank goodness I now work for an agency that requires it and also Texas state law now requires interviews of certain crimes to be recorded.

If I also understand correctly (from Dershowitz I believe) the Feebs screwed up having a safecracker open Trump's office safe. There are specific procedures mandated before a safe can be opened and they failed to observe them.

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Originally posted by StorminNormin:]
If they did turn off the system themselves, then that will be interesting to see if they are allowed to do that. I have no idea of the legality of that.

To me, if there is nothing to hide then let things be recorded. I worked for one agency once that did not allow the audio recording of interviews or interrogations. Recording them protects everyone unless you are doing something you shouldn’t. Thank goodness I now work for an agency that requires it and also Texas state law now requires interviews of certain crimes to be recorded.

Many of y’all are thinking like Cops.
You should be thinking like Criminals.

Did the FBI not spy on Trump in Trump Towers?
Why would a leopard change it’s spots?

Perhaps it would be wise to think of “planting” in regards to leaving something behind.

Turn off the cameras, no one can watch while we “plant” devices.

They spied “wire-tapped” on President Trump before, why would they not again take advantage of this unique opportunity?

The FBI destroyed Mar-A-Lago.
President Trump can never have a private conversation in his residence again without wondering who is listening or watching.

Not a conspiracy theory, just a recognition of what they have done in the past and asking, why would they change their behavior now.

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The FBI destroyed Mar-A-Lago.
President Trump can never have a private conversation in his residence again without wondering who is listening or watching.

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I doubt that. Besides Tony Soprano just went to the basement and turned on white noise while he talked. lol

Ditto what others have posted in regard to observers during search warrants. Most of the time, everyone was removed from the premises. From time to time, one suspect would be in left in a separate area. Mainly in hopes he or she would shoot off their mouth in regard to what was being searched for. A return or receipt showing what was seized was required to be given to the property owner or suspect at the conclusion of the search. If no one was present during the search, the return was taped to the front door.
I would love to see the return for the Trump search, if there is one.

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I would love to see the return for the Trump search, if there is one.

That and the PC statement.

Nothing about this seems kosher.

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Originally posted by PASig:
Holy shit, if this turns out to be the case then IT’S ON

HUGE DEVELOPMENT: Report Alleges FBI “Had Personal Stake” in Mar-a-Lago Raid – Agents Were After Spygate Documents Trump Was Holding That Likely Implicated FBI

I presume you did not copy and past because that website is full of nothing but click bait and annoying pictures and crap advertisements. And it would take you 3 and a half days to copy and paste the actual article.

I am not sure I have ever been able to read more than one paragraph from the pundit because of their layout.

I presume you're trying to read this on a phone...NO issues whatsoever reading it on a PC using Firefox or Brave!

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Originally posted by nhracecraft:

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Originally posted by Black92LX:

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Originally posted by PASig:
Holy shit, if this turns out to be the case then IT’S ON

HUGE DEVELOPMENT: Report Alleges FBI “Had Personal Stake” in Mar-a-Lago Raid – Agents Were After Spygate Documents Trump Was Holding That Likely Implicated FBI

I presume you did not copy and past because that website is full of nothing but click bait and annoying pictures and crap advertisements. And it would take you 3 and a half days to copy and paste the actual article.

I am not sure I have ever been able to read more than one paragraph from the pundit because of their layout.

I presume you're trying to read this on a phone...NO issues whatsoever reading it on a PC using Firefox or Brave!

The site had quite a few ads, but I didn’t have much trouble reading it on my iPhone with Safari browser.