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The National Archives wanted to see if he had any documents so the FBI got a search warrant? This should blow up in the Democrats faces and will probably lead to Pres. Trump being back in the White House in 2024. | |||
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A Grateful American |
That overdue library book from back in 1964. I am shitting bricks...  "the meaning of life, is to give life meaning" ✡ Ani Yehudi אני יהודי Le'olam lo shuv לעולם לא שוב! | |||
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Oriental Redneck |
You better. Q | |||
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| A Grateful American |
LOL, Dragnet!  "the meaning of life, is to give life meaning" ✡ Ani Yehudi אני יהודי Le'olam lo shuv לעולם לא שוב! | |||
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| The Unknown Stuntman  |
Like falling prices and soaring markets? Like gutting Obamacare? Like no more foreign wars? Gee, yeah...that'd be terrible. We sure don't want a repeat of that.  | |||
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FBI’s Trump Home Raid Improperly Intrusive, Circumstances Indicate https://www.theepochtimes.com/...IJSUnIcrcFxXu0%2FCyO There’s reason to suspect that the FBI search of the Florida residence of former President Donald Trump was improperly intrusive, according to several lawyers. The raid prompted a rebuke from Trump and Republicans more broadly and further escalated political tensions in the nation. About two dozen FBI agents entered Trump’s Palm Beach resort of Mar-a-Lago around 9 a.m. on Aug. 8 and left about 10 hours later with “a handful of boxes of documents,” one of Trump’s attorneys on scene, Christina Bobb, told The Epoch Times. “I didn’t actually get to oversee the search, they wouldn’t let anybody see what they were doing,” she said. It isn’t clear what legal basis the FBI had for the raid. The agents had a search warrant signed by a judge, however, the affidavit explaining the basis—its probable cause—was filed under seal and Trump’s lawyers weren’t allowed to examine it, Bobb said. In general, the agents were looking for “what they deemed to be presidential records,” she said. “I don’t think there was anything of substance.” Trump’s legal team will take steps to obtain the affidavit, she said. There has been a dispute between National Archives and Trump about whether he has documents that should be stored at the archives under the U.S. Presidential Records Act. Trump has been cooperative on that front, Bobb said, and previously had invited the FBI to Mar-a-Lago to examine the White House records he had in storage at the time. “Nothing had been hidden and nothing had been kept secret from them, which makes this all the more ridiculous,” she said. Potentially Illegal “I’m stunned and dismayed,” commented Marc Ruskin, 27-year FBI veteran and former federal prosecutor. “The disregard for traditional norms and apparent lack of concern with the appearance of impropriety is indicative of an abandonment of even a veneer of independence and objectivity,” he told The Epoch Times. Former federal prosecutor Mike Davis went even further, saying the raid may have been illegally invasive. “Under the case law, you can’t do a home raid if you can secure the documents through less intrusive means,” he told “Bannon War Room” on Aug. 9. The FBI had to first determine that requests for the documents or even subpoenas wouldn’t be sufficient, said Davis, who formerly advised Sen. Chuck Grassley (R-Iowa) on judicial nominations and now heads The Article III Project. “There’s zero evidence” that Trump wouldn’t have cooperated, he said. “There was no allegation or evidence that he [Trump] was destroying any of this evidence or putting it into the wrong hands. This is banana republic-level tactics from the Biden Justice Department.” Even if Trump took classified documents, he took possession of them when he was still chief executive and had the authority to declassify them, Davis said. Bobb suggested that the invocation of classified documents was a disingenuous attempt of “shrouding this in a national security blanket.” “They don’t want to disclose what they’re doing, because what they’re doing is wrong. And so they want to hide it behind the premise of ‘Oh, it’s a matter of national security and classified documents, so we can’t disclose to you what we’re doing or why we’re doing it. But just trust us. We’re not lying to you,’” she said. “Well, no, the American people aren’t going to stand for that anymore.” Even if the DOJ tried to charge Trump with withholding documents, it wouldn’t hold up, Bobb said, because the statute in question requires a “willful” violation and Trump would have had to have “some malicious intent” to take specific documents. “They would have to lay the foundation that Donald Trump actually packed up his own office” or ordered somebody what specifically to take, she said. History of Missing Documents If Trump had documents that should go to the archives, it would add him to a lineup of former government officials. Former FBI Director James Comey took his handwritten notes when he was fired by Trump in 2017. His home wasn’t raided. He handed the notes to FBI agents who came to interview him. The Obama administration didn’t just fail to hand over documents, tens of thousands of its documents went missing or were destroyed. No homes were raided. Former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton failed to hand over tens of thousands of emails and documents from her server, claiming they were of a personal nature. The FBI was able to retrieve some of the documents, revealing that many were work-related. Moreover, the documents were under congressional subpoena at the time when a Clinton aide deleted them. Immediate Skepticism The raid prompted an immediate wave of skepticism, particularly because the FBI and the Department of Justice (DOJ) have a history of breaking protocol, misrepresentations, and even forging of evidence, in their case against Trump and members of his campaign. “After six years of unfounded, absurd investigations of President Trump, the presumption is that any investigation of President Trump is politically motivated, and the burden of proof is on FBI/DOJ to prove otherwise,” Will Chamberlain, senior counsel at the Internet Accountability Project, wrote in an Aug. 9 tweet. In 2017, the FBI and DOJ obtained two extensions of a spying warrant on former Trump campaign aide Carter Page although the warrant was based on false or unsubstantiated allegations. The FBI later acknowledged that spying based on the extensions was illegal. The FBI also has a history of harsh treatment of people associated with Trump. His aides have been arrested at gunpoint, handcuffed, and “perp-walked,” and their homes and offices have been raided in pursuit of trivial or nonviolent offenses, even when the targets were cooperating with the government. Shoe on the Other Foot The Trump raid increased the already polarized political playing field, as Republicans can now argue that home raids of former presidents are acceptable. “They’re setting a very dangerous precedent where you can do a home raid of a former president of the United States,” Davis said, noting that such a thing has never happened “in our 250 years as a republic.” Already, Republican lawmakers are promising to subject the DOJ and the FBI to intense scrutiny, with the expectation of reclaiming the majority in the House after the November midterms. “When Republicans take back the House, we will conduct immediate oversight of this department, follow the facts, and leave no stone unturned,” House Minority Leader Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) said in an Aug. 8 statement. “Attorney General Garland: preserve your documents and clear your calendar.” Judge’s Epstein Connection The search warrant was issued by U.S. Magistrate Judge Bruce Reinhart in the Southern District of Florida. Reinhart was a senior prosecutor in the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of Florida when the office reached a non-prosecution agreement with Jeffrey Epstein, who was later indicted for sex trafficking children and died by apparent suicide in a New York jail. Upon leaving office, Reinhart went into private practice and represented multiple Epstein associates and employees in civil cases against Epstein by his alleged victims. Reinhart was appointed a magistrate judge in 2018 by the district judges in the Southern District of Florida. The warrant was issued on Aug. 5, the day after FBI Director Christopher Wray testified to the Senate Judiciary Committee and was questioned about multiple whistleblower reports alleging politicization of the bureau. Wray cut the questioning short because he said he had to urgently travel. Flight records indicate he flew in the FBI private jet to his vacation retreat in the Adirondacks, according to New York Post columnist Miranda Devine. Correction: A previous version of this article incorrectly stated the time around which the search of Donald Trump’s residence started. The raid started around 9 a.m. The Epoch Times regrets the error. _________________________ "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." Mark Twain | |||
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Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
All Eric Trump said was that the safe was empty. Don't over think it. To think that the FBI didn't take anything from the home after this raid would be extremely hard to believe.
~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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Dot gov sight has active links to all Magistrate Judges, EXCEPT for Judge Bruce E. Reinhart. Odd .gov According to Wayback Machine screenshots, Reinhart's page was still accessible around 12:30 p.m. EDT but was inaccessible by about 2 p.m. EDT. Link “We’re in a situation where we have put together, and you guys did it for our administration…President Obama’s administration before this. We have put together, I think, the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics,” Pres. Select, Joe Biden “Let’s go, Brandon” Kelli Stavast, 2 Oct. 2021 | |||
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Fire begets Fire |
General news is reporting 12 boxes were taken. (Not coming from the government. They’ve yet to speak on this whatsoever.) "Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty." ~Robert A. Heinlein | |||
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| Leatherneck |
Sorry Kimber, that was not directed at your post. “Everybody wants a Sig in the sheets but a Glock on the streets.” -bionic218 04-02-2014 | |||
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_________________________ "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." Mark Twain | |||
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| Fire begets Fire |
Admiral Michael Flynn Attorney Roger Stone Attorney Rudy Giuliani Senior advisor Steve Bannon Senior advisor Peter Navarro Over 600 Americans in DC jails. President of the United States Donald J Trump Pointing out the hypocrisy of the left does nothing. "Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty." ~Robert A. Heinlein | |||
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Alienator |
They kicked off his reelection campaign. This is about the biggest boost to energize people under Trump that there could be. SIG556 Classic P220 Carry SAS Gen 2 SAO SP2022 9mm German Triple Serial P938 SAS P365 FDE P322 FDE Psalm 118:24 "This is the day which the Lord hath made; we will rejoice and be glad in it" | |||
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| Big Stack |
No, probably not. This is not going to change anyone's minds. The people who are pissed about this are only the Trump supporters. People who are are Trump haters are going to fully support it. And the neutrals are going see, since a warrant was issued that this is a "where there's smoke there's fire" situation, making Trump look worse.
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| Lawyers, Guns and Money  |
When one side completely controls the 4th branch of government, the "intelligence community" or the "security state" they will use it against their political enemies. The 3 letter agencies (FBI, NSA, CIA, IRS... and with the "epidemic" even CDC and FDA) have all been weaponized against us. "Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible." -- Justice Janice Rogers Brown "The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth." -rduckwor | |||
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_________________________ "Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by smart people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it." Mark Twain | |||
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| Tinker Sailor Soldier Pie |
You really think people who are mostly neutral politically are that obtuse? You think this makes Trump look worse to them? Man, give people some credit. ~Alan Acta Non Verba NRA Life Member (Patron) God, Family, Guns, Country Men will fight and die to protect women... because women protect everything else. ~Andrew Klavan | |||
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DailyMail article: “Eric Trump reveals what REALLY happened in the FBI raid.” Sorry if this has already been posted. “Eric Trump revealed FBI agents refused to hand over the search warrant for their raid on Mar-a-Lago and kicked an attorney off the property in a new, incisive account of the Monday operation at the Florida estate. Speaking exclusively to DailyMail.com, the former president's son said the 30 agents who arrived at the property asked staff to turn security cameras off – but they refused. He also said that the attorney was forced to stand at the end of the Mar-a-Lago driveway while the team searched inside - and allegedly used safe crackers to break into his father's safe. He called the raid another 'coordinated attack' on his father Donald Trump and insisted there is no way President Joe Biden was kept in the dark about the search…” https://mol.im/a/11099205 Serious about crackers | |||
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| Peace through superior firepower  |
Yes, along with the pure and blatant political bias and misuse of federal powers, this what the American people want from the government's supposed supreme investigative agency- childish petulance. Grow the fuck up, boys and girls. | |||
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| Fire begets Fire |
Wellp, Trump has gone and involved the fifth. "Pacifism is a shifty doctrine under which a man accepts the benefits of the social group without being willing to pay - and claims a halo for his dishonesty." ~Robert A. Heinlein | |||
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