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Why is the White House Bragging About Conducting Military Operations in Ukraine to Kill Russians?

Does Joe Biden intend to take the U.S. into a direct war with Russia? Perhaps because the only historic way out of a deep economic recession is a war or housing starts? Perhaps, because they need a bigger distraction from the political impact of their own policies?

Those questions need to be asked and answered quickly, because the White House is about to flip the switch from a “proxy war” into an actual hot war between the United States and Russia. How do we know? Because the Biden administration is openly bragging about their specific military operations inside Ukraine that are killing Russians. Consider:

♦ New York Times – “WASHINGTON — The United States provided intelligence that helped Ukrainian forces locate and strike the flagship of Russia’s Black Sea fleet last month, another sign that the administration is easing its self-imposed limitations on how far it will go in helping Ukraine fight Russia, U.S. officials said.” (LINK)

♦ New York Times – “WASHINGTON — The United States has provided intelligence about Russian units that has allowed Ukrainians to target and kill many of the Russian generals who have died in action in the Ukraine war, according to senior American officials.

Ukrainian officials said they have killed approximately 12 generals on the front lines, a number that has astonished military analysts. (LINK)

Why would Joe Biden be bragging about killing Russians in Ukraine if he wasn’t trying to provoke us into a hot war?

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Why would Uncah Joe be bragging? Because politically he's on the ropes and has been more or less since he first squatted in the White House. Well, that and he's got the judgement of a college freshman on his fourth beer.

Meanwhile, questions are beginning to surface about the support Russia enjoys from separatist Ukrainians in eastern Ukraine. I can't tell from the article if Russians were always mistaken in expecting support from them or if Russia's simply managed to alienate them and they're now trying to talk their way into Ukrainian good graces. But even people who are currently in eastern Ukraine and have been seen as pro-Russian in the past are saying that the Russians were always mistaken in counting on their support for the invasion.

http://www.yahoo.com/news/russ...orate-154623413.html
 
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Why would Uncah Joe be bragging? Because politically he's on the ropes and has been more or less since he first squatted in the White House. Well, that and he's got the judgement of a college freshman on his fourth beer.


The Potatus isn’t calling any of the shots in Ukraine, it’s the Kenyan, Rice or another Obama lackey on for the Kenyans proxy third term.
 
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https://www.foxnews.com/world/...chief-nuclear-claims

Dmitry Rogozin, Head of Russia’s Space Agency Roscosmos and former Deputy Prime Minister, said Sunday that in the event of a nuclear war, "NATO countries will be destroyed by Russia in half-an-hour."

He stressed that such an event "cannot be allowed because the consequences will impact the [entire] Earth."

then don't launch

Russia has roused fear and concern over the potential use of nuclear weapons as Russian President Vladimir Putin prepares for the May 9 Victory Day celebrations, including a massive military parade and a "nuclear theme" that he hopes will send a "doomsday warning to Europe and the United States.

The parade will include the flight of Russia’s Ilyushin Il-80, known as the "doomsday" plane that will carry the administration’s senior leadership in case of a nuclear war.

As head of Roscosmos, Rogozin oversees the launch and management of Russia’s satellites, which would include some crossover into intelligence and war support functions.

But Rogozin is no stranger to making outlandish comments.

He made several "erratic" comments following western sanctions that punished Russia for its invasion of Ukraine, including threats to the International Space Station.

He also claimed that Russian rockets are "the most reliable ones in the world" and suggested that people who planned the sanctions were "suffering from Alzheimer’s disease."

"He just threatened that the space station might de-orbit on American or European soil. He said it doesn't fly over Russian soil, so we don't need to worry about it," former astronaut Terry Virts previously told Fox News Digital, referencing a series of tweets from Rogozin.

"His behavior has been very erratic recently, like Putin," Virts added. "I don't think anything bad is going to happen. I hope we can maintain our partnership, but the things that Putin has been doing are so dramatically over the red line."

Rogozin has appeared several times in public with Russian President Vladimir Putin, including a recent visit to the Vostochny cosmodrome last month when Russia hosted Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko.
 
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"The parade will include the flight of Russia’s Ilyushin Il-80, known as the "doomsday" plane that will carry the administration’s senior leadership in case of a nuclear war."

Great. What goes up must come down. Plan on staying up there for the next 100,000 years if you trigger the irradiation of the entire planet?

And if you end up making it to your boonker? You convince yourself you rule over a graveyard?

Things are going to get boring very quickly. But good luck with that sparky.


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The Russians damn well know we have 14 Ohio class subs that are very difficult to locate. Each can deploy up to 24 missiles that can each carry up to 12 multiple warheads (or decoys). Now add in the 4 cruise missile subs that have 22 launch tubes and a compliment of 154 missiles. That’s a lot of ballistic threat that could by this time already be laying off Russian coastlines. Putin is blustering to fan nationalistic support; he knows that MAD is still a thing and if civilization is destroyed his I’ll gotten fortune is worthless and his days numbered.




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^^^ Wonder how much of his ill gotten fortune is being converted into Bitcoin or, is still being transferred to his daughter(s).

In any case, the dream of working on his tan at his black sea coastal palace in retirement is over. The best he can hope for is not ending up in a drainage pipe like Gaddafi once Russians comes to grips with this entire folly.
 
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Rogozin is a blow-hard appeasing and currying favor with bombastic talk.
 
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The parade will include the flight of Russia’s Ilyushin Il-80, known as the "doomsday" plane that will carry the administration’s senior leadership in case of a nuclear war.


Well, the planned flyover was cancelled due to "inclement weather". Although the weather doesn't appear to be very inclement...

More likely, their super-special doomsday plane is old and undermaintained, just like the rest of their military hardware, and they weren't able to get it up to flightworthy condition in time for it to make its propaganda appearance.

Besides, if the doomsday plane can't handle a little rain or wind, how's it going to handle a global thermonuclear firestorm and subsequent nuclear winter?

From https://www.newsweek.com/russi...erse-weather-1704656

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Russia's Victory Day military flyovers have been abruptly canceled in Moscow, and in at least two other major cities that were due to hold parades to commemorate the national holiday.

Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov told reporters on Monday the air portion of Moscow's Victory Day parade in the city's Red Square had been canceled "due to the weather," Russia's state-run news agency TASS reported.

According to local weather forecasts, Russia's capital will see light rain showers and a moderate breeze until 7 p.m. local time.

Just an hour earlier, officials said aerial demonstrations in Russia's fourth-largest city, Yekaterinburg, would also no longer be going ahead. No explanation was given for that sudden cancellation.

When pressed by local outlets, the press service of Yekaterinburg's Central Military District refused to comment.
 
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^^^ At this point I'm willing to believe - and, after all this mess, would never get on a Russian airplane anyway.

At the same time, there were no grand pronouncements. That's not entirely surprising; the only ones predicting some monumental shift were everyone except the Russians.

The fact that the Russians said so little, though, and didn't make more of the day than they did, kinda leaves me wondering if there isn't either some degree of reassessment going on or whether Ivan's just plain run out of ideas.
 
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The Potatus isn’t calling any of the shots in Ukraine, it’s the Kenyan, Rice or another Obama lackey on for the Kenyans proxy third term.


I never gave this any serious thought just now when I realized that Obama knew who the real Russian leader was when he sent word to Putin via the Russian president at the time just before his second term elections.



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World War Reddit?

Bono Showed up in Kyiv, Ukraine Along with Justin From Canada

It’s the new cool thing. It’s the latest rage on Insta. All the most virtuous people are doing it. Don’t miss out on your opportunity to support the movement. Travel to Kyiv, Ukraine, snap a few selfies… Social media archives will record history. According to pop culture, the Facebook, Insta, Twitter and YouTube social media campaign to save Kyiv, is bigger than the Berlin wall falling. The CIA, DoS, DHS and Nina Jankowicz have declared it true.

When the conflict in Ukraine first began, the White House announced the victor would be the one who could “tell a better story.” The war in Ukraine would be determined by who was more likeable on social media. From that moment forth, winning the PR battle has been the focus.

Within days of the White House declaring the strategy, Google, DuckDuckGo, Facebook, Instagram and Twitter all announced they would filter and block content that did not support World War Reddit. Anyone who was not supporting Ukraine and “churchill in a T-Shirt” ran the risk of being deplatformed; and so, the strategy has continued through today.

After writing pro-Ukraine poems for Nancy Pelosi to read to congress, now Bono travels to Ukraine. I said on March 1st when Bono shows up, that’s the moment when you know western propaganda over Ukraine will soon apex. Bono’s appearance in any State Dept/CIA construct usually precedes the bombing of the proverbial milk factories and subsequent “babies are casualties of war” narrative. Well, today:



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These people.... Roll Eyes

I expect pathetic and vapid answers from someone who's career is made off of impressions and imagery. But, then there's the people who suck this shit up. They buy and religiously read Rolling Stone, Vanity Fair or Complex for their 'news' and information; The View and Entertainment Tonight is MUST WATCH.
 
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It's not just pop singers and celebrities.

I know a guy who traveled to Kiev a few weeks ago because he felt like he "had to contribute". He wandered around Kiev for about a week, gawking and snapping photos to post all over his social media, then came home, having accomplished nothing meaningful.

Just war tourism and self-promotion. Roll Eyes
 
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Could be worse... The Russians have burned through 50 years worth of armored vehicles in 2 months. Big Grin
 
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10 year shelf life. And the French found a majority of Javelins they bought that were beyond ten years, unusable.

Either we help the Ukrainian people, or we don't.

Such policies are set during ties of peace and sunshine, cuz when the hard rain is falling, it is not the time to be deciding to get in or out.


How much have we seen "burned through" in future taxes, (over the past few years) everyone that pays taxes, will be paying for the rest of our taxpaying lives?

Do you realize how much money is spent everyday driving boats around the world, poking holes in the sky, eating MREs in the mud?

I think helping them is the correct thing. (It is both complex and simple, but would take a whole lotta keyboard to discuss)




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You've gotta be kidding me Mad

We just burned through seven years of Javelins

There's quite a bit packed in there
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...we simply don't have the stockpiles at present in order to backfill what we've spent in Ukraine.

You'd think there's a whole side of the Beltway, who thinks the pacing threat is Russia, instead of China Roll Eyes
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Lockheed is expanding its workforce amid the tightest labor market in decades to build more missiles.

How the hell are you going to do that when POTUS and DoD are aiming to cut budget. The Navy is fighting its own incompetence while facing the Executive Office's proposing to cutting battle-force ships.
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"We couldn't even launch one. I think it's completely useless in an urban environment, as something always gets in the way,"

Well no shit! Javelin is your long-range anti-tank weapon, your kill-teams in built-up areas are either poorly positioned or, you're ignoring all the Carl Gustofs we gave you along with the AT4's and SMAW's
 
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Could be worse... The Russians have burned through 50 years worth of armored vehicles in 2 months. Big Grin

They were made to kill Russian tanks. They're killing Russian tanks.... Money well spent.



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Might as well give them everything they might use...the money hasn't been real for decades now. Bizarre the way we spend our grandchildren's money.
 
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