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Originally posted by maladat:

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Originally posted by Icabod:
Then there are companies that train and sell service animals. The average price is $17,000. They would love training and licensing requirements and no doubt demand rules that are difficult for owner handlers to pass.

And just imagine how much more expensive it could be once we got a nice fat bureaucracy set up to manage it all!

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Originally posted by PD:
It’s all cool until the horse shits all over the plane.

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Originally posted by 2BobTanner:
Flying in civilian aircraft makes me long for flying in a C-130 for a trans-Atlantic crossing once again.

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Originally posted by sns3guppy:

How does a service animal help a diabetic? Were you not just told? Service animals on aircraft are allowed under federal law, but the airline can (and usually does) require documentation that the animal is required. The airline cannot ask the condition.

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Originally posted by Pale Horse:

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Originally posted by maladat:

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Originally posted by Icabod:
Then there are companies that train and sell service animals. The average price is $17,000. They would love training and licensing requirements and no doubt demand rules that are difficult for owner handlers to pass.

And just imagine how much more expensive it could be once we got a nice fat bureaucracy set up to manage it all!

It doesn’t have to be a fat bureaucracy at all though. In fact if owners and advocates themselves get in front of it then the owners and advocates can help decide how much of a bureaucracy it is. I am not suggesting that service animals get priced out of reach. But I would really like this fake emotional support animal nonsense to stop. I’m sick of dealing with them and their owners every time I fly.

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Originally posted by joel9507:
Pivoting around the quote in Para's signature above, one is free to avoid airlines with irrational animal travel policies.

When Airline A allows Boris, the comfort squid, to accompany their passengers, if that bothers you it's time to give your business to Airline B that doesn't.

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Originally posted by sns3guppy:

The airline cannot ask the condition.

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Originally posted by V-Tail:

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Originally posted by sns3guppy:

The airline cannot ask the condition.

I was under the impression that the person may not be questioned re his / her "condition," but it is acceptable to ask what "service" the animal performs.

Is this correct?

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Q7. What questions can a covered entity's employees ask to determine if a dog is a service animal?

A. In situations where it is not obvious that the dog is a service animal, staff may ask only two specific questions: (1) is the dog a service animal required because of a disability? and (2) what work or task has the dog been trained to perform? Staff are not allowed to request any documentation for the dog, require that the dog demonstrate its task, or inquire about the nature of the person's disability.

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(e) If a passenger seeks to travel with an animal that is used as an emotional support or psychiatric service animal, you are not required to accept the animal for transportation in the cabin unless the passenger provides you current documentation (i.e., no older than one year from the date of the passenger's scheduled initial flight) on the letterhead of a licensed mental health professional (e.g., psychiatrist, psychologist, licensed clinical social worker, including a medical doctor specifically treating the passenger's mental or emotional disability) stating the following:

(1) The passenger has a mental or emotional disability recognized in the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders—Fourth Edition (DSM IV);

(2) The passenger needs the emotional support or psychiatric service animal as an accommodation for air travel and/or for activity at the passenger's destination;

(3) The individual providing the assessment is a licensed mental health professional, and the passenger is under his or her professional care; and

(4) The date and type of the mental health professional's license and the state or other jurisdiction in which it was issued.

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Originally posted by PD:
It’s all cool until the horse shits all over the plane.

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Originally posted by V-Tail:...but it is acceptable to ask what "service" the animal performs.

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Originally posted by maladat:

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Originally posted by Pale Horse:

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Originally posted by maladat:

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Originally posted by Icabod:
Then there are companies that train and sell service animals. The average price is $17,000. They would love training and licensing requirements and no doubt demand rules that are difficult for owner handlers to pass.

And just imagine how much more expensive it could be once we got a nice fat bureaucracy set up to manage it all!

It doesn’t have to be a fat bureaucracy at all though. In fact if owners and advocates themselves get in front of it then the owners and advocates can help decide how much of a bureaucracy it is. I am not suggesting that service animals get priced out of reach. But I would really like this fake emotional support animal nonsense to stop. I’m sick of dealing with them and their owners every time I fly.

How much control does any group of ordinary citizens exert over any government agency?

Also, emotional support animals are not service animals.

Service animals are trained to perform a specific task that helps a person with a disability.

Emotional support animals help a person with a psychiatric condition feel better just by being present.

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Originally posted by joel9507:
Pivoting around the quote in Para's signature above, one is free to avoid airlines with irrational animal travel policies.

When Airline A allows Boris, the comfort squid, to accompany their passengers, if that bothers you it's time to give your business to Airline B that doesn't.