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On War Room, Rasmussen has collected polling that a Trump Desantis ticket is probably the strongest one across the board. Not saying that it is realistic, but it would probably be best for the country if the two stopped purse swinging and teamed up to take down the Pedo Peter regime.
 
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People from all over the country, and people in Florida, want to shit on DeSantis.

Naaa.... that's perception.
He's getting a lot of bad press lately, from both sides, because Corporate Media has decided they want to run against Trump and Trump doesn't want the challenge.

It would be interesting if DeSantis entered the race, but I'm not sure that's a good enough reason for DeSantis. We shall see.



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It would be interesting if DeSantis entered the race, but I'm not sure that's a good enough reason for DeSantis. We shall see.


For someone who isn't running, as a NH independent I've gotten 4 separate mailings from DeSantis in the last week.


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^^^ Oh, I think he wants to... but he keeps delaying the decision.
The CNN townhall last night definitely helped Trump.

Trump appeared on a CNN “Voter Town Hall” last night and did the impossible: gave liberals something even more horrifying to consider than the idea of Tucker moving to Twitter. Anguished liberals wept over CNN’s downfall, and angrily accused the reliably woke network of literally spitting in Democracy’s face.

Libs were even madder at CNN than they were at President Trump:



Rolling Stone was so triggered that nearly every one of its reporters scribbled jeremiads of outrage following the town hall — long after working hours and before they went to bed late last night — presumably to inform Rolling Stone’s midnight readers or maybe just to get it out of their systems:

I could go on, and on, and on. It was a LOT, it was lefty outrage multiplied by virtue-signaling with an exponent of shock and surprise. Let’s just say American leftists were more rattled than Carmen Miranda’s favorite maracas.

Earlier this week, when someone asked Trump WHY he was going on CNN, he said producers made him an offer he couldn’t refuse. I think part of what Trump got from CNN was the right to pick the crowd. The town hall crowd laughed at Trump’s jokes, applauded his strong points, and cheered him on as he pushed back against snide interviewer Kaitlan Collins, who acted more like an annoyed debater or maybe a small, neatly-dressed, starving hyena.

And Trump was a well-fed honey badger.

President Trump never conceded an inch of ground. When Collins asked him to deny that the 2020 elections were stolen, Trump instead called them “rigged” and said “I think that, when you look at that result and when you look at what happened during that election, unless you’re a very stupid person, you see what happens.”

Among other things, Trump promised to pardon “many” of the persecuted J6 protestors, and said he’d end the Ukraine war on Day One, within twenty-four hours. When Collins pressed Trump, thinking she’d finally boxed him in, he completely flummoxed the hapless reporter with an undeniably correct, unassailably moral answer:

Collins: “Do you want Ukraine to win this war?”

Trump: “I don’t think in terms of winning and losing, I think in terms of getting it settled, so we stop killing all these people and breaking down this country. I want everybody to stop DYING…. Russians and Ukrainians. I want them to stop dying. And I’ll have that done in 24 hours.”

In perhaps the night’s best line, as is his great strength, Trump plainly and simply summarized what we are all thinking:

Trump: “Our country is being destroyed by stupid people.”

CNN had scheduled 90 minutes for the total show, allowing 75 minutes for the “interview” but frantically cut the show at only 70 minutes — five minutes early. The post-debate panel included the youthful and spirited Florida Representative Byron Donalds, who turned in a strong performance, taking all comers in a six-against-one rhetorical pile-on.

Byron’s muscular performance might have earned him the vice-presidential nomination.
https://twitter.com/MAGAIncWar.../1656476668133875714

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"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
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Bizarre that the left now thinks 'journalism' involves shutting Trump up. Our country is badly broken.
 
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Bizarre that the left now thinks 'journalism' involves shutting Trump up. Our country is badly broken.


Not really Bizarre, it's been happening since the first day he came down the steps in Trump Tower.....

It's been broken at the journalism level for a long time, now that Musk has opened up Twitter, and we have a few viable platforms like Rumble and Truth available, the stranglehold on the public is cracking.

Often thought a thread on the daily leftist articles attacking Trump, just to track how much hate the left is spreading, for example two of the many today on "Trumps Lies on CNN"..... would be interesting in order to see just how much hate is printed daily.....

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...winp2fptaskbar&ei=11]Link Morning Joe: Trump Lies

Link: CNN Lets Trump Spread Lies

They hate him as a person/potus, but love him as the revenue generator he is.....
 
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Bizarre that the left now thinks 'journalism' involves shutting Trump up. Our country is badly broken.


For me, I saw the media start to get really bad when Bush won in 2000. The media was bad before but they got even worse, got rabid after that.

It's not journalism or news, it's propaganda. Schools are indoctrination facilities now.


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Schools are indoctrination facilities now.

I know it's a thread drift... but we have to get the government, even local government, out of the "education" business.
You are right: they don't educate, they indoctrinate.
Why would people turn over something as important as their children to government?



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
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DeSantis very quietly recently signed a bill into law that hides his travel records from public view, including his past travels. A bit swampy, if you ask me.

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DeSantis very quietly recently signed a bill into law that hides his travel records from public view

Yeah... no reason to do that if he's not running.

Under the new law, details about the governor's trips — whether on state planes or private, chartered flights — will be redacted, including names of staff and family members that travel with DeSantis. Visitor logs to the governor's mansion and his office also will be hidden.

The redaction will shield information not just from journalists but from DeSantis's political opponents, who would likely compile droves of research to use against the governor for public scrutiny. Chief among these could be instances in which DeSantis traveled with lobbyists or others who might have been trying to curry favor with him.

https://www.businessinsider.co...under-new-law-2023-5

DeSantis happened to be in Iowa over the weekend, he’s just visiting, no reason in particular. I mean, he was in stealth campaign mode since he hasn’t actually declared yet.

Anyway, in this next clip, DeSantis criticizes the so-called covid experts, explaining, “The elites were WRONG about almost everything regarding COVID… Some people are trying to rewrite history… Fauci-ism was wrong. Fauci-ism was destructive. And we can never let anything like that happen to this country ever again.”

https://twitter.com/DeSantisWa.../1657547032075161600



"Some things are apparent. Where government moves in, community retreats, civil society disintegrates and our ability to control our own destiny atrophies. The result is: families under siege; war in the streets; unapologetic expropriation of property; the precipitous decline of the rule of law; the rapid rise of corruption; the loss of civility and the triumph of deceit. The result is a debased, debauched culture which finds moral depravity entertaining and virtue contemptible."
-- Justice Janice Rogers Brown

"The United States government is the largest criminal enterprise on earth."
-rduckwor
 
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DeSantis very quietly recently signed a bill into law that hides his travel records from public view



Part could be they are receiving threats against him and his family, remember the guy that was posting Musks planes trips, a few places where potential problem people were showing up and not finding him but others.
 
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In my view, DeSantis or any other candidate is garbage unless they say the 2020 presidential election was fraud.
I may not be the only person to feel this way.


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^^ There is some logic to phrasing things so that media whores don't get a chance to interrupt the candidate with a five-minute diatribe about "debunked" that segues into a demand the candidate take an on-air loyalty oath to the Dem version of events.

Never give the flighty an opportunity to distract their way onto a tangent that requires no facts or thought.
 
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In my view, DeSantis or any other candidate is garbage unless they say the 2020 presidential election was fraud.
You are a Floriidan and a conservative, and I would not expect any such person to call Ron DeSantis "garbage" unless they have a radically different definition of the term.

Perhaps you would rather have Charlie Crist for your governor, what with DeSantis being garbage. If you know of a U.S. state governor who is more effective than Ron DeSantis, I'd be interested to hear their name. In my opinion, he is number one out of the fifty.

Perhaps it is lost on you that at this time, Ron DeSantis and Donald Trump are for all practical purposes, political opponents, vying for the top office in the nation. DeSantis has not yet announced, but neither has he indicated he is not running, therefor...

It seems to me unlikely that a Republican candidate for the 2024 Republican nomination would make a statement that essentially supports one of their opponents, and the front-runner at that.

I don't know if Vivek Ramaswamy has commented now or in the past on the 2020 election, but I am impressed by the manner in which he carries himself and what he has to say and what he has written and I would think no less of him if he avoided the subject altogether.
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I may not be the only person to feel this way.
I think you're the only active member of this forum who would call Ron DeSantis garbage in the open forum and I doubt sincerely that others feel as you do. As I've watched DeSantis with regards to his potential presidential run, I've come to realize that he needs more experience and growth before he would be ready for the presidency. My desire is that he sits this one out and remains where he is most effective, and effective he certainly is as the governor of Florida, but you will never hear me call the man garbage or anything even close to that, and I will be disappointed if runs, but if Donald Trump was not running, Ron DeSantis would have my vote.

I am enthusiastic for Trump, despite his faults. I am sympathetic towards him, too, because no POTUS and no person in the American political arena has weathered so many unwarranted attacks from all sides and it's just not right, and sometimes it is literally criminal, what some are doing to the man. But, this doesn't mean that in my fervor, I'm going to lose my perspective and call a great ally of conservative thinking and common sense "garbage".


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I would rather vote for DeSantis than Trump, as I think the noise that comes with Trump may detract many from voting for him, thus making him more susceptible to being beat by the left.

Either way I think I pull that handle for DeSantis in the primary, and he will lose so then its Trump in the General. I got no problems with that.

I'm very interested to see and hear more from Vivek, he and DeSantis could make a real powerteam.


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Bizarre that the left now thinks 'journalism' involves shutting Trump up. Our country is badly broken.


These are the people calling you a fascist.



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Para - Ok, garbage is a strong term and I take it back. That being said, I rephrase to I can’t support a Presidential candidate that doesn’t refer to the 2020 election as fraud.

As for Florida Governor, I would like Gaetz or Sabatini.


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Well, it makes no sense to me, but here he comes.

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Some folks just can' find happiness LOL,

Free State
Great Gun Laws
No Covid Lockdown
Bans on LGBTQ Drag shows where children are present
Bans on chemical surgery on minors
Clap back on Disney when they decide to enter the political world with their Gay Bullshit.

But yeah, theres someone better....

Word being spread down here on some disinformation channels is DeSantis will announce candidacy in 10 days.
 
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I would love to see a Ron Desantis/Tim Scott team up, in whatever fashion.
 
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