What could possible explain the California experience, what with all the strict shutdown applicable to everyone from g]the governor to mayors, to the masses?

Robert Kennedy Jr Warns of COVID Compliance Creating The Dystopian End Game

Posted on December 19, 2020 by Sundance

There are many issues where we may disagree with Robert Kennedy Jr., the weaponization of COVID fear is not one of them. In this short video Robert Kennedy Jr, a passionate advocate against forced vaccinations of all types, talks about how professional politicians will lie to create the underlying source of their power, dependency.

[Transcript] “My father told me when I was a child: people in authority lie. If we are going to continue to live in a democracy we need to understand that people in authority lie.

People in authority will abuse every power that we relinquish to them and right now we are giving them the power to micro-manage every bit of our lives, 24 hours a day.

They’re going to know where we are, they’re going to know the money that we spend, they’re going to have access to our children. They’re going to have the right to compel unwanted medical interventions on us.

You know, the NAZI’s did that in the camps, in World War 2—they tested the vaccines on Gypsies and Jews. And the world was so horrified after the war that we signed the Nuremburg Charter and we all pledged when we do that, we would never again impose unwanted medical interventions on human beings without informed consent. And yet in two years all of that conviction has suddenly disappeared, and people are walking around in masks where the science has not been explained to them—they are doing what they’re told.

These government agencies are orchestrating obedience and it is not democratic—it’s not the product of democracy. It’s the product of a pharmaceutical-driven, bio-security agenda that will enslave the entire human race and plunge us into a dystopian nightmare where the apocalyptical forces of ignorance and greed will be running our lives and ruining our children and destroying all the dreams and dignity that we hope to give to our children.”

~Robert F. Kennedy Jr.

https://youtu.be/p-5gm0kUXCw

WHO (finally) admits PCR tests create false positives

Warnings concerning high CT value of tests are months too late…so why are they appearing now? The potential explanation is shockingly cynical.

The World Health Organization released a guidance memo on December 14th, warning that high cycle thresholds on PCR tests will result in false positives.

While this information is accurate, it has also been available for months, so we must ask: why are they reporting it now? Is it to make it appear the vaccine works?

The “gold standard” Sars-Cov-2 tests are based on polymerase chain reaction (PCR). PCR works by taking nucleotides – tiny fragments of DNA or RNA – and replicating them until they become something large enough to identify. The replication is done in cycles, with each cycle doubling the amount of genetic material. The number of cycles it takes to produce something identifiable is known as the “cycle threshold” or “CT value”. The higher the CT value, the less likely you are to be detecting anything significant.

This new WHO memo states that using a high CT value to test for the presence of Sars-Cov-2 will result in false-positive results. To quote their own words [our emphasis]:

Users of RT-PCR reagents should read the IFU carefully to determine if manual adjustment of the PCR positivity threshold is necessary to account for any background noise which may lead to a specimen with a high cycle threshold (Ct) value result being interpreted as a positive result.

They go on to explain [again, our emphasis]:

The design principle of RT-PCR means that for patients with high levels of circulating virus (viral load), relatively few cycles will be needed to detect virus and so the Ct value will be low. Conversely, when specimens return a high Ct value, it means that many cycles were required to detect virus. In some circumstances, the distinction between background noise and actual presence of the target virus is difficult to ascertain.

Of course, none of this is news to anyone who has been paying attention. That PCR tests were easily manipulated and potentially highly inaccurate has been one of the oft-repeated battle cries of those of us opposing the “pandemic” narrative, and the policies it’s being used to sell.

Many articles have been written about it, by many experts in the field, medical journalists and other researchers. It’s been commonly available knowledge, for months now, that any test using a CT value over 35 is potentially meaningless.

Dr Kary Mullis, who won the Nobel Prize for inventing the PCR process, was clear that it wasn’t meant as a diagnostic tool, saying:

“with PCR, if you do it well, you can find almost anything in anybody.”

And, commenting on cycle thresholds, once said:

If you have to go more than 40 cycles to amplify a single-copy gene, there is something seriously wrong with your PCR.”

The MIQE guidelines for PCR use state:

Cq values higher than 40 are suspect because of the implied low efficiency and generally should not be reported,”

This has all been public knowledge since the beginning of the lockdown. The Australian government’s own website admitted the tests were flawed, and a court in Portugal ruled they were not fit for purpose.

Even Dr Anthony Fauci has publicly admitted that a cycle threshold over 35 is going to be detecting “dead nucleotides”, not a living virus.

Despite all this, it is known that many labs around the world have been using PCR tests with CT values over 35, even into the low 40s.

So why has the WHO finally decided to say this is wrong? What reason could they have for finally choosing to recognise this simple reality?

The answer to that is potentially shockingly cynical: We have a vaccine now. We don’t need false positives anymore.

Notionally, the system has produced its miracle cure. So, after everyone has been vaccinated, all the PCR tests being done will be done “under the new WHO guidelines”, and running only 25-30 cycles instead of 35+.

Lo and behold, the number of “positive cases” will plummet, and we’ll have confirmation that our miracle vaccine works.

After months of flooding the data pool with false positives, miscounting deaths “by accident”, adding “Covid19 related death” to every other death certificate…they can stop. The create-a-pandemic machine can be turned down to zero again.

…as long as we all do as we’re told. Any signs of dissent – masses of people refusing the vaccine, for example – and the CT value can start to climb again, and they bring back their magical disease.


https://off-guardian.org/2020/...ate-false-positives/

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I wish these folks would stay out of politics.

That may be correct, but in this case, I think his opinion is accurate. We can see the government using the fear of this virus to manipulate the people in places right in front of us like California and Nevada(Roberts' ruling against churches in Nevada is a highly un-Constitutional case in point).



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Originally posted by Balzé Halzé:

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Originally posted by pulicords:

Name ONE human endeavor that has a perfect history. Name ONE medical procedure or FDA approved drug that doesn't have potentially serious side effects. Don't like vaccines because they have potential side effects? Okay, but how does a case of smallpox hit you as the alternative? How about another pandemic of polio? If you're bitten by a rabid animal, are you going to reject the vaccine developed to combat this nearly 100% fatal virus because it may have serious side effects?

Medicine like the rule of law can be used improperly, but without it and the imperfection associated it how would our lives be? Medicine and the rule of law has greatly improved our lives as a whole.

Except we're not talking about smallpox. We're not talking about polio. We're talking about a virus that, what...99.7% of those infected typically have no ill lasting effects?

And you're asking us to trust people who have been universally wrong about damn near everything associated with Covid. Damn near everything. None have been more wrong than the exalted Dr. Fauci (peace be upon him), and yet people are still listening to him. Our betters these white lab coat dictators they are not.

Dr. Fauci is ONE person. There are far more medical professionals here in the US and abroad that are studying this disease, assess it's danger level, and create vaccines to deal with it. You're as wrong to point the finger at me as asking you to trust "people" (encompassing thousands involved) as you are to insist that "they" (who the fuck are "they"?) were "universally wrong." Do we rely on your assessment or every medical professional that you seem to believe is part of a conspiracy to lead us into a dictatorship?

Earlier this week, I had a meeting with an MD that happens to be an infectious disease specialist that's treated me for a condition over several years. The doctor has been involved in research as well as treating patients for decades. We talked about how much progress has been made regarding the use of RNA and DNA technology over just the last FIVE YEARs. It's this knowledge and technology that's led to the development of the vaccines being offered now.

I suppose I could just go along to get along with YOUR assessment of the extent of the threat posed by COVID, but our ICU facilities here in Arizona are just about maxed out with seriously infected patients. Our closest hospitals are staffed with people, some of whom I know personally that I trust because I know them from outside of their profession as honorable people. My infectious disease specialist isn't just a medical professional and my doctor, he's wheelchair confined and one of the last "iron lung" patients who was infected by polio. He got into the medical profession because of his personal experience, but he (like those others I know) are all (according to your assessment) supposed to be unworthy of trust because they (again according to YOU) have been "universally wrong"???

Painting with such a broad-brush is a sign of ignorance and paranoia. As I've said before, nothing done by humans is perfect in it's entirety. Fauci certainly isn't perfect and his abilities as a national manager for this pandemic should be closely scrutinized, BUT labeling everyone involved whose knowledge of medicine, epidemiology, and pharmaceuticals as being incompetent, corrupt, or unqualified is totally unwarranted.

I too think the broad brush is unfair, however there have been credentialed doctors and researchers who have been silenced or been made to be spreaders of false information or painted as conspiracy theorists in favor of Dr Fauc. So while the broad brush is unfair, it is reality.

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Painting with such a broad-brush is a sign of ignorance and paranoia. As I've said before, nothing done by humans is perfect in it's entirety. Fauci certainly isn't perfect and his abilities as a national manager for this pandemic should be closely scrutinized, BUT labeling everyone involved whose knowledge of medicine, epidemiology, and pharmaceuticals as being incompetent, corrupt, or unqualified is totally unwarranted.

What are you going on about? I'm referring to the people being constantly paraded out on mainstream media and social media. These people, with few marginalized exceptions, have been wrong with just about everything regarding this pandemic every step of the way. Fauci was just the most obvious example of it. First it was this virus is nothing to be concerned about; it won't affect America in any real degree. Then don't worry about it; the seasonal flu is worse and should be people's main concern. Then it was don't wear masks; masks are stupid and ineffective for the majority of people. Of course now they say masks must be worn. We have been lied to or outright misled from the very beginning. Furthermore, any opposing scientific or medical opinion disagreeing with the current main narrative is censored or shamefully ridiculed. As such, I no longer believe a damned thing about this virus coming from the media's or even the government's science overloads. Not a thing.

So you're speaking with medical people you know on the ground and in the hospitals who are dealing with the virus personally. Well good for you. Many people are not. Obviously those people working in hospitals have a different perception of things. They are engrossed in it everyday, so of course everything they see looks like a medical catastrophe. From my perspective, everything isn't. From my perch, the global economy, the US economy, and the destruction of the US's energy sector is all i see because that is what I'm engrossed in almost every day, and it frankly terrifies me. I wonder what your medical expert friends' opinion on that would be if you asked them. Let me guess; they wouldn't give a shit. And I don't begrudge them that because their priorities are the sick. But the rest of us live outside of their medicinal bubble and can only judge things by what we see in real life and in the media, and the only conclusion I can come to from that is that this pandemic and the overall response to it is a giant three-ring freakin' circus.

Great points above.

My niece is an ER nurse in Memphis. Nearly every night is a medical disaster and the ICU is always full. She told me this the last time we spoke, which was 2018.

Oddly enough, 2020 will be the first year in my adult life where I did not know or hear of a single American dying of the Flu. (H1, SARS, Garden variety FLU, etc)

This is George Carlin, so NSFW big time.


George Carlin on germs and the immune system

Well guess who doesn't follow their own advice? Dr Birx got caught with her own hypocrisy showing by traveling to visit with family over Thanksgiving. She is planning to retire according to Newsweek but not before blaming it on everyone but herself. Hey doc...go fuck yourself and take Fauci with you.
Why would anyone continue to believe those two or any other "experts" that restrict us but carry on as they please is beyond my comprehending.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...9pCg?ocid=uxbndlbing

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Originally posted by tleo205:
Well guess who doesn't follow their own advice? Dr Birx got caught with her own hypocrisy showing by traveling to visit with family over Thanksgiving. She is planning to retire according to Newsweek but not before blaming it on everyone but herself. Hey doc...go fuck yourself and take Fauci with you.
Why would anyone continue to believe those two or any other "experts" that restrict us but carry on as they please is beyond my comprehending.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news...9pCg?ocid=uxbndlbing

Makes it pretty obvious why Trump didn't preach all this stuff. If he said everyone has to wear a mask, and distance, and not have the holidays, and what have you, he would have been crucified any time he wasn't 100% compliant. He made the "orders" he knew he could reasonably follow, and that most other people could reasonably follow. Everyone who has gone on record insisting on stupid shit has gotten caught not doing the shit they spewed.

Dr. Deborah Birx Says She Will Retire from Public Service After Holiday Travel Backlash

https://www.breitbart.com/poli...tm_campaign=20201222

White House coronavirus response coordinator Dr. Deborah Birx said Monday that she will soon leave her post after it was revealed that she traveled to her Delaware vacation home on Thanksgiving weekend despite warning Americans against traveling to celebrate the holiday with non-immediate family members.

Well, what a coinky-dink...

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Prepare for supplies to tighten for the cheap, effective therapeutic treatment for early stage Covid-19 infection, hydroxychloroquine (HCQ). Just as the medical establishment in the US is relaxing its absurd and lethal suppression of the cheap, generic drug, following President Trump’s endorsement of it early in the pandemic, HCQ’s continued availability may suffer. The world’s second largest pharmaceutical facility producing the precursors for HCQ has been destroyed by an explosion and fire.

Read more: https://www.americanthinker.co..._.html#ixzz6hSZQ0t6R
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I know a lot of people on this forum were wondering last spring if they had already had covid. There were some nasty bugs going around before testing was widely available.

Kroger is doing antibody testing for $25.00. Results in 15 minutes.

https://www.kroger.com/health/pharmacy/covid-care

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I know a lot of people on this forum were wondering last spring if they had already had covid. There were some nasty bugs going around before testing was widely available.

Kroger is doing antibody testing for $25.00. Results in 15 minutes.

https://www.kroger.com/health/pharmacy/covid-care

Antibodys may or not be there

One of my best friends has it again. Second time in 6 months

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Well, what a coinky-dink...

When it comes to the government...there is no such thing as a coincidence.

I'm going through my second round now. Not fun.

New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio announced Wednesday that travelers from the U.K. will receive a quarantine order as well as a home visit from a sheriff’s deputy -- as part of an aggressive effort to prevent that spread of a more infectious strain of the coronavirus.

The mayor said he was taking action in light of the mutated strain of the virus that has emerged in the U.K. and has caused a number of European countries to slap various travel restrictions on the country.

De Blasio announced that all travelers to New York City will receive a personalized Department of Health commissioner’s order to quarantine by mail.

"This will be a personal and direct order to every single one of them, telling them they must quarantine -- and that will be given to all travelers beyond...anyone coming in just from the U.K.," he said.

However, travelers from the U.K. will also be receiving a knock on the door from law enforcement at their home or hotel to ensure they are locked down.

"But specifically for folks coming in from the U.K., given that particular concern we are going to have sheriff’s deputies go to the home or the hotel of every single traveler coming in from the U.K.," the mayor said.

He said anyone found not to be quarantining would be fined $1,000 immediately and then $1,000 for every additional day they are not quarantining after that.

"We don’t want to, but if you don’t follow quarantine, you’re endangering everyone else in the city, right as we’re fighting the second wave," he said.

New York City has struggled to keep the virus under control despite continual restrictions that have seen restaurants never open for indoor dining at anything more than 25% capacity -- and recently even that was ended amid a rising surge in cases and hospitalization.

De Blasio recently warned that the Big Apple was likely to see a new shutdown, possibly after Christmas, given the continued surge of the virus over the holidays.

"So I think, unfortunately, and I don't say it with anything but sorrow, but I do think it’s needed, we’re going to need to do some kind of shutdown in the weeks ahead, something that resembles the pause we were in in the spring," he said last week.

He announced Wednesday that the city saw 224 hospitalizations, above its 200 threshold, and has registered 2,789 new cases and a seven-day positivity rate of 6.19% -- above the 5% desired threshold.

The new restrictions are the latest move by New York to stop the spread from the U.K.

On Monday, New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo announced that he asked three major airlines to add New York state to the list of 120 countries requiring passengers traveling from the U.K. to get a negative test result before boarding flights.

Virgin Atlantic, British Airways and Delta have all since agreed and will require a negative test before boarding flights to New York.


https://www.foxnews.com/politi...yc-ensure-quarantine

We could post one link after another showing where these pieces of shit are on Video telling us what they are up to and you'll still have a FEMA CAMP full of people who think all this Covid-19 Plandemic shit is real and hang on the Government/MSMs every word.

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I'm going through my second round now. Not fun.

Sorry to hear that Artie. How long ago was the first round?

https://townhall.com/tipsheet/...igh-profile-n2581883

According to a newly-unsealed federal criminal complaint, a former employee for California's Employment Development Department (EDD), the state's unemployment agency, allegedly engaged in fraud.

Andrea Gervais, the former employer, allegedly used Sen. Dianne Feinstein's (D-CA) name to apply for unemployment benefits through the EDD, POLITICO reported.

The information came to light after a bank employee noticed a deposit for $21,000 in the senator's name. The investigation revealed Gervasis allegedly filed $2.1 million in claims . Of those claims, she allegedly received $216,000 from roughly a dozen claims.

This is not the first time the Employment Development Department agency has struggled with fraud. In fact, inmates in the Golden State were part of a $1 billion scheme to claim unemployment because of the Wuhan coronavirus pandemic.

"A multi-agency investigation found that 35,000 unemployment claims were filed in the name of California state prison inmates between March and August, including that of convicted murderer Scott Peterson, and that at least 20,000 had been paid out, said Sacramento County District Attorney Anne Marie Schubert," POLITICO reported in late November.

The inmate's scheme is likely to be the state's largest fraud case, at least as it relates to government agencies. But it is not the first time – and it probably will not be the last time – the agency has fallen victim to fraud.

In fact, Rapper Fontrell Antonio Baines, who goes by the stage name Nuke Bizzle, in a music video bragged about allegedly obtaining roughly $1.2 million in unemployment funds.

According to the New York Times, Baines bragged about his "swagger for the EDD," at which point he held up multiple envelopes from the unemployment agency. He also referenced his ability to get rich by going “to the bank with a stack of these.”

He was able to obtain the funds because of the additional unemployment funding Congress agreed to earlier in March during the CARES Act,

Baines reportedly used stolen identities to obtain the cash, which was found distributed between 92 debit cards that were mailed to various addresses in Beverly Hills and Los Angeles' Koreatown.

In another instance, a San Diego woman was caught conspiring to engage in unemployment fraud to help her boyfriend who is serving a 94-year sentence for murder.

The worst part of these cases: so many Californians have struggled to obtain unemployment benefits yet inmates can con the system into sending them hundreds of thousands – if not millions – of dollars.